IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2011-03-21

lbtI like the wobbly windows effects on the SMSes00:00
lcukthis is the same thing but actually rerendered: http://liqbase.net/liq.20110320_032054.liqbase-playground.scr.png00:00
lcuklbt lol00:00
lcuks/same/similar/00:01
* javispedro used to believe that the reason non-mtf apps looked awful under mcompositor was that the latter did something like what lcuk is suggesting00:03
javispedrosadly, that does not seem to be the case.00:03
javispedro(well, or "fortunately").00:03
alteregoHeh00:04
lcuklol00:04
lcukthe biggest issue I see with AA is having to double the line thickness and lose definition on contents00:05
javispedroI remember there were some talks about a compositor with enhanced knowledge about cairo surfaces (because cairo does have OpenGL-style 2D linear maps)00:07
javispedro(well, and QGraphicsView ;) )00:07
javispedroI like the idea too. However breaking the "apps render to a framebuffer" abstraction is going to be hard.00:08
npm_any clues on how to set a "clip rectangle" inside http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/core/html/qt4/declarative-ui-components-tabwidget.html -- when i scroll inside the tabbed frame, the "scroll" overlaps the tabs00:08
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npmi should show a picture00:08
lcuknpm, yeah then you don't need 100 words00:09
lcuks/100/1000/00:09
infobotlcuk meant: npm, yeah then you don't need 1000 words00:09
lcukjavispedro, unfortunately it is also going to occur in QML too00:09
lcukwith the meme of "a line is a 1pixel rectangle"00:09
javispedroand wayland00:10
javispedroactually wayland goes further with the framebuffer concept, X11 does have some line drawing primitives you could potentially use00:10
lcukwell I was thinking of the toolkit itself00:10
javispedrowayland doesn't00:10
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lcukit does but those end up composited too00:10
lcukand what makes it more difficult is requiring to rescale multiple times00:11
javispedroyep, one has to wonder if it would be viable to make the primitives "smarter" regarding compositing00:11
lcuk(as you add/remove more apps, or show the dashboard in different configurations)00:11
lcukyes but this would appear to add an enormous amount of complexity00:12
lcukespecially when you think something like collidingmice example has a whole group of lines per mouse00:13
* lcuk was playing a game based on collidingmice on n8 today :)00:14
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npmhttp://nielsmayer.com/meego/tabwidget-needs-cliprectangle.png is the problem i'm having w/ http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/core/html/qt4/declarative-ui-components-tabwidget.html00:16
lcuknpm, have you added your content into the tabwidget or its content area?00:18
npminto the tabwidget... i just modified the example and dropped it into http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/00:19
npmand all the scrolled windows seem to confuse the tabwidget00:19
alteregonpm: what npm you need 'clip: true' I tink in your listview00:22
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npmyay!!00:23
alterego;)00:23
npmthanks alterego00:23
alteregonp00:23
* lcuk gets alterego a QML Superhero cape00:23
alteregonpm: and don't forget one of these! http://pastie.org/169351000:23
* alterego chuckles00:24
alteregonpm: usage is at the bottom of here: http://gitorious.org/qml-meego-dialer/qml-meego-dialer/blobs/master/qml/CallHistoryPage.qml00:24
npmgiven some of the apps he posted above, i'd have to agree -- columbus looks pretty cool00:24
alteregoAnd this is scroll indicator in git: http://gitorious.org/qml-meego-dialer/qml-meego-dialer/blobs/master/qml/base/ScrollIndicator.qml00:25
alteregonpm: thank you :)00:25
npmexcellent examples00:25
alteregoI've neglected Columbus over the past month somewhat though :(00:25
alteregoShould really allocate some time into getting track view loading done ..00:25
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javispedrobtw, do we have kernel sources for the tablet ux?00:35
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javispedroI want to try and build my s10-3t modules for it, however, repo seems to have aversion mismatch for the kernel-devel package00:36
javispedro(seems that someone incremented epoch for the kernel pkg, but forgot to do the same for the -devel one...)00:37
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timeless_w7iplcuk: fwiw, iiuc, OS X takes the <everything is sent to Quartz as a vector> approach01:01
timeless_w7ipso if the os needs to rerender, it can because it wasn't sent pixels to begin with (if the app wasn't buggy)01:02
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npmalterego -- i updated http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/ with w/ 'qmlviewer jsontube.qml'01:26
npms/with/run with/01:27
infobotnpm meant: alterego -- i updated http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/ run with w/ 'qmlviewer jsontube.qml'01:27
npm:-)01:27
alterego:)01:27
alteregoGroovy01:27
npmaka "svn co http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/playground/ytapi-jsonviewer/"01:28
npmi just checked it in to run on n90001:28
npmit works on the desktop01:29
npm:-)01:29
alteregoStrange, can't check it out01:29
alterego"Server sent unexpected return value (400 Bad request) in response to OPTIONS01:30
npmweird01:30
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npm"svn checkout http://ytd-meego.googlecode.com/svn/trunk" should work no?01:30
alteregoNope, same.01:30
npmtry https??01:31
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npmhold on i'll tar it01:31
alteregoNeah, https worked :)01:31
npmok01:31
npmweird how http didn't01:32
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npmmaybe goog changed and forgot to change the docs01:32
npmsomething a while back about them switching to https:01:32
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npmprob to prevent certain govts from hacking gmail01:33
alteregoHeh01:33
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alteregoThis stuff relies on Qt Components?01:33
npmdoes it?01:33
alteregoDunno :D01:34
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npmi just grabbed a bunch of examples and cobblled them together till they ran :-)01:34
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npmfeel free to improve01:35
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alteregoAh right, no it's just you're using the proper new QtQuick import rather than Qt which is what my system uses :/01:36
alteregoThat is super cool npm :)01:37
npmif you know of a way of viewing *all* youtube videos w/o using the WebView / flash hack (using Mobility Video widget) let me know... it won't play em for me01:37
npmthanks alterego01:37
npmnow that i got the tabs working i'm adding the "book" view as well ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peC-ABhDEMQ )01:38
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alteregoNo, not sure how you'd use the video widget, not used it myself. But it should be able to work somehow through there html5 stuff for iphone no?01:41
npmOTOH, using the flash viewer gives you all the cool stuff like annotations , captions/translation/etc01:41
alteregoI think they use a proper h264 or whatever codec01:41
npmbut the downside is you sometimes get ads01:41
alteregoYes, and adverts :P01:41
alteregoheh01:42
alteregoIt works well as is, tbh, does it work on the N900 as well?01:42
alteregoThe webkit and flash plugin?01:42
npmfinding out... need to stop washing mashine first tho01:43
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alteregoAnyhow, I gotta hit the hay, ciao folks.01:50
npmalterego: it works on n90001:53
npm:-)01:53
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npm(maemo... need to try on meego but should work as long as flash and qtwebkit cooperate like they everywhere else01:56
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npmdoh: "Segmentation fault" (in qmlviewer on n900)01:57
npmbut it worked for quite a while before doing it01:57
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ali1234sooo..... does anyone have Qt/3D up and running on meego yet?02:02
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ali1234also, any progress on getting a driver for ideapad accelerometer?02:03
lcuk:) timeless_w7ip sounds like how liqbase works too02:05
lcukali1234, plenty have 3d working02:06
lcukand afaik accelerometer is usable in some areas02:06
ali1234not the basic GL context stuff... i mean Qt/3D... with QGLSceneNode and friends02:08
ali1234just looking over that discussion from 6 months ago where i was going on about how great it was02:08
ali1234but seems like it's still not easily available without compiling all of Qt from scratch02:08
lcukhm02:09
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ali1234if you google "qt3d meego" the most relevant hit is me talking about how great it is :/02:10
pupnikfunny how that happens02:12
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ali1234http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-17434?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Aall-tabpanel02:12
ali1234seems like progress is being made at least02:12
timeless_w7ipthat reminds me, i need to file bugs about creator sucking02:13
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* ali1234 votes for the bug02:15
timeless_w7ipsadly first i'd have to find my password02:17
timeless_w7ipthiago: is there a bug for adding openid support to bugreports.qt?02:17
lcuktimeless_w7ip, isn't that a bit chicken and eggish!02:20
w00t_timeless_w7ip: http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-1394202:22
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CosmoHillcyas02:34
lcuknn02:34
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CosmoHilllcuk: fyi, twin prime test takes 12 hours on each windows and linux, I'll let you know which was fastest tomorrow02:34
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lcukCosmoHill, ooh cool02:35
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pupnikhttp://www.isuppli.com/Semiconductor-Value-Chain/News/Pages/Japanese-Earthquake-to-Impact-Component-Supply-and-Pricing.aspx02:39
timeless_w7ipwow02:41
timeless_w7ipthe openid stuff seems almost done02:41
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timeless_w7iphrm, the reverse dns for 78.159.112.128 is odd02:55
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berndhswhat's odd about it ?03:06
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timeless_w7ipberndhs: well, reverse is supposed to be a canonical address, right?04:09
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* lcuk giggles @ vid then goes to bed http://thedailywh.at/2011/03/20/does-what-it-says-on-the-tin-of-the-day/ 04:10
lcuknn timeless_w7ip \o04:10
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iekkumorning08:01
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bkalinga Error: The Madde configuration directory /usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/cache/madde.conf.d is not presented.08:09
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bkalingai am getting this error while migrating to Meego1.1.908:10
bkalingaanyone faced this problem08:10
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kkvhello everyone09:56
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Cokelooking at the support hw, it says only Atom platforms are supported. does that mean that meego wont work on all the new dual core lappies ?10:08
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Cokeofcourse, it also says that is for 1.0 and latest release is 1.1. I'm not sure anyone is maintaining the meego site any more.10:09
Cokeoh fudge it10:11
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Termanamorning10:57
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bkalingahi, getting some error while Meego1.2 pre-release installation10:59
bkalingahttp://pastebin.com/G1DNKaH110:59
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bkalingacan some one help me out10:59
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timeless_officeanyone here familiar w/ gst?11:01
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vgradeI'm trying to build a Qt project on OBS using http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeview.html,11:02
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vgradethe build fails with, main.cpp:6:28: fatal error: QDeclarativeView: No such file or directory11:02
vgradeWhat package to I need to add to the buidrequires to get this header?11:03
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alteregovgrade: can you paste your .pro file to a paste bin11:03
oddHi11:04
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vgradealterego, http://pastie.org/169527011:06
oddHello everyone11:06
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vgrademorning odd11:06
oddHow's it going11:07
vgradebeen better, complier errors11:08
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alteregointeresting.11:09
alteregolibdeclarative (I think)11:09
alteregoang on11:09
alteregowell, libqt4-declarative11:10
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vgradeI have installing libqtdeclarative4-4.7.1-4.3 in the build log11:11
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alterego:/11:12
alteregoI'd find someone elses project that compiles and look at their .spec file11:13
vgradewhat is libqt4-declarative?11:13
alteregothe debian name for the package yours is the correct one.11:13
vgradealterego, can't find any on public obs which uses declarative, lets try other obs11:14
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mdfe_hi, do anybody else build for armv7l on build.pub.meego.com with build.meego.com (Trunk) repositories?11:15
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mdfe_every build fails for arm since wednesday with 'db3 error(-30971)' at chroot installation time11:18
Stskeepsmdfe_: local build?11:19
mdfe_remote build11:19
mdfe_on build.pub.meego.com11:19
Stskeepsshow me error log11:19
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Stskeeps(url)11:19
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timeless_office stskeeps; can i interest you in Xorg code?11:23
Stskeepsno11:23
RST38h[promptly throws up]11:23
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timeless_officeso... anyone here willing to read some x11 code? :)11:34
timeless_officehttp://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/xorg-x11-server/dix/dixfonts.c?mark=1174-1175,1179-1180,1196,1208,1210,1212-1215,1217-1220,1393,1407,1409,1410-1417,1428-1428,1428#116611:34
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lcuktimeless_office, that is ummmm novel11:56
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wuyongbhello12:05
wuyongbis this the right channel to get account can gain access to the obs system ?12:06
kkvyes, ask lbt12:07
lcukwuyongb, no, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it12:07
lcuks/no/yes/12:08
infobotlcuk meant: wuyongb, yes, but have a go at explaining what you want and why you want it12:08
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wuyongbI am team member of META Beijing team. I am trying to update some ots related test packages on repo to make ots get right test result.12:10
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wuyongbso ?12:15
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Stskeepsyou probably need to file one through bugs.meego.com -> community infrastructure -> build service accounts12:15
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wuyongbstskeeps : but there is not link for community infastructure in bugs.meego.com12:18
Stskeepshttps://bugs.meego.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Build%20Service12:19
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wuyongbstskeeps : so I should file a bug with requesting authorized account(already registered) ?12:21
wuyongbstskeeps : with componets "Build services" ?12:21
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timeless_officelcuk: glad you liked13:07
iekkutimeless_office, are you "timeless"13:09
timeless_officeyes13:09
iekkuok :D13:09
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timeless_officeandre__: ping13:15
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andre__timeless_office, pong13:37
timeless_officeandre: so, i'm thinking of making a http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers&action=submit13:39
timeless_officekinda like https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/13:39
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timeless_officeunless you already have such a thing13:39
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andre__timeless_office, not existing, and very welcome. maybe http://live.gnome.org/Bugsquad/TriageGuide/NonGnome is also helpful13:41
* timeless_office busy waits13:41
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timeless_officeandre__: that page is not interested in loading13:45
timeless_officeis live dead? :)13:45
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andre__timeless_office, hmm, looks like13:46
andre__it's just a list with links to other bugtrackers13:47
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timeless_officecan you poke someone to make live less dead?13:48
smokutimeless_office, http://tinyurl.com/6gmvmet13:49
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thiagoStskeeps: what image should I use if I want to build Qt against the ARM target?13:51
thiagoStskeeps: or should I use mic to create one for me?13:52
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timeless_officeiekku / andre__: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers13:52
timeless_officegrr13:54
Stskeepsthiago: so, if it was me doing it, i'd personally use a obs account, osc checkout qt, osc build armv7el and then osc chroot afterwards to chroot into a ARM chroot with cross compilers installed13:54
andre__looks good13:54
thiagoStskeeps: I was more thinking about running benchmarks13:54
Stskeepsthiago: with all my needed dependancies already installed13:54
w00t_fab .. bah, no fabo?13:55
Stskeepsw00t_: get him in from #meego-arm? :P13:55
* thiago needs to upgrade his gcc ARM toolchain13:55
thiagodo we patch gcc in MeeGo? Or is it pristine?13:56
lcukStskeeps, I wonder why there is a difference in people in #meego as in #meego-arm13:56
w00t_it uses linaro patches at least I think13:56
Stskeepsit's gcc 4.5 + linaro 2010.09 patches plus one or two patches i think13:56
* thiago should download that instead of the CS2010q313:57
Stskeepsright, that'd be the sdk guys you'd have to ask :P13:58
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Stskeepsthink there's a standalone install for it13:59
Stskeepsand 1.2 sysroots ought to have all -devel packages.. i think13:59
iekkutimeless_office, nice, thanks :)13:59
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timeless_officeiekku: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bugtriage_Guide#Is_it_in_the_right_place.3F14:07
timeless_officeif you want more bits, you'll probably have to add them14:07
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timeless_officei think +1 page +1 link is enough on my part14:08
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timeless_officeiekku: first task for you: add the Qt bug tracker ;-)14:21
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iekkutimeless_office, try to do that14:23
iekkuon some point during this week :D14:23
iekkuneed to add a to-do14:23
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timeless_officethe problem is that the time it takes to add a todo is roughly equivalent to doing it14:23
iekkuin the meeting currently14:24
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iekkuhope the qt page is correct14:31
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timeless_officesounds right14:32
timeless_officebut, i was hoping people would keep the list sorted alphabetically ;-014:32
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timeless_officebut yeah, that link's correct, good job ;)14:34
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frakhi14:50
Stskeepshi14:51
timeless_officeiekku: part of the reason i'm filing these bugs is to show people how to use the tools that we have14:52
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iekkutimeless_office, ok14:53
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timeless_officeideally at some point, someone will be write a document explaining how to use mxr  w/ bugzilla and point to or source material from some of them14:54
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timeless_officeof course, i'd also like to get people into the habbit of sending bugs to upstream if they're filed here14:55
loft306heh14:56
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luistis there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde?15:51
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zinitmorning16:07
gabrbeddhowdy!16:08
Stskeepsmorn16:09
kkvmorning? good morning ((:16:10
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zinitofcourse its morning:P its not 5.pm yet, sp it cant be afternoon...16:10
Stskeeps~ugt16:11
infoboti heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html16:11
zinitI hate the 3g coverage in dublin... it sucks... I'm in the mioddle of the bloody city, and got no 3g...16:11
zinitand when you got 3g, the speeds stink... (200ms in ping to my linux box in france.... when I'm on wlan the onig is about 50...16:12
zinitanyone going to the meego conferance in the states this year?16:13
Stskeeps<-16:13
zinita long and expencive trip.... or is your job paying?16:13
Stskeepsam actually planning on paying myself16:13
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iekkui'm trying to participate16:14
zinitwould be nice if it would be in dublin this year too. then I would definatly go16:14
Stskeeps(as i'll also be coupling it with a 14 day vacation)16:14
zinitcant afford to go to the states this year16:14
iekkuStskeeps, oh, that's nice!16:14
zinitjust starting a new job, and doubt dell would pay my trip to the states:P16:14
iekkudamn i couldn't take it as a honeymoon also :D16:15
Stskeepsmy honeymoon was in helsinki.16:15
Stskeeps:P16:15
zinithehe16:15
zinitannoying that nokia made a deal with M$ fro phones.. would be betting if they would stick to meego. would definatly increade the number of people involved16:17
zinitand the number of phones that can run it...16:17
zinitthe N8 would be nice for meego16:17
zinitor the enw ones they are releasing16:17
qgil_#meego-bar?  :)16:17
zinit:P16:17
Stskeepsyeah, #meego-bar please :)16:18
zinithave the issue with meego in virtualbox been resolved? or is there still a horrible amount of work to get it working there?16:18
zinithavent tried since the conference here in dublin16:18
Stskeepszinit: the problem rests with gl acceleration which is a bit underdeveloped in vmware and virtualbox and such16:18
zinitStskeeps: hope there will be a permanent fix for that as the next verison of virtualbox comes out16:19
Stskeepshaven't seen what it includes16:19
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zinita colleague told me me he got it up fine in vmware, but running vmware on a netbook with 1 gig memory under win7 is not an option...16:20
Stskeepswe do have our own qemu's too though16:20
zinithavent been able to get vmware working under meego16:20
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zinittrying to trach donw a n900, want one for free, ebay is too expencive16:22
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Stskeepsprobably difficult considering it's still very usable, but since it's going out of production it should be cheaper..16:22
zinittyping as sentence and it takes 5-10 seconds befire it shows on my screen:P16:22
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zinitrunning irssi on a server I got at the gandi.net system in france16:23
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zinitand I bet it doesnt help that I'm using windows 7 ultimate here...... with visual studio ultimate mssql eats memory for breakfast..16:24
Stskeepsso what's your interest in meego, out of curiousity?16:25
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zinitthats why I went to the meego conference last year here in dublin16:25
zinitusing it on my wife's netbook. she loves it. and also got it on this one that I got at the conference.16:26
chinmayaiekku: ping16:26
zinitunfortunatly I'm stuck with windows when I want to use the mobile connection with my phone. havent been able to get that to work properly in meego16:26
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zinitwith my old symbian phone it worked, but not with the iphone.. the personal accesspoint or whatever its called doesnt work.16:27
zinitgot it working in windows 7 and ubuntu, but not meego. probably some driver thhing, or configuration...16:29
iekkuchinmaya, pong :)16:30
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luistis there any command that i list all the applications in the meego applications menu? something similar to kbuildsycoca4 --menutest from kde?17:11
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gabrbeddluist: It's UX-specific.  Sounds like your using the Netbook UX... which is using mutter/clutter.  While this is not an answer... I hope it's helpful.  :-)17:14
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leinirluist: it seems most are using xdg for that piece of information... but other than that, not really :)17:15
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luistleinir: is there any xdg tool to do that?17:22
leinirwell, it depends greatly on what sort of code you're writing, or of you mean an actual command line tool of some type :)17:22
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gabrbeddluist: I think the procedure is simple enough that most end-applications just write their own code.  Basically you scan the files in  /usr/share/applications/*.desktop .  These are written in a conf-file format, and the entry you're looking for is [Desktop Entry]/Categories17:29
gabrbeddluist: Categories is a semi-colon-delimited list of application categories... and one of the canonical categories is called "Application"17:30
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gabrbeddluist: Hmmm... maybe not.  "Application" appears to be an extension, and not in the canonical list.  http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html#category-registry17:34
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berndhswhy wont QML listview redraw the header when I reset the model ? grrrrrrr17:47
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gabrbeddberndhs: where'd you get the listview from?  The new desktop components lib?17:48
berndhsqt 471 or qt 47217:48
berndhsqtquick 1.0 in both of them17:49
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wmaronesweet17:54
wmaronehas anyone had an issue where the Qt creator will instantly segfault when trying to open up a .ui window?17:54
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gabrbeddberndhs: oh, I see it now.  :-)18:00
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berndhsgabrbedd: yeah been there for a long time18:03
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gabrbeddberndhs: yeah, when I went searching for a combo box and couldn't find one... I erroneously concluded there were not any other kind of useful desktop Items, either.18:09
gabrbeddberndhs: :-)18:09
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berndhsit has fields for "delegate" and "model", "header' "footer" and so on18:10
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berndhsbut it only doesnt the header once on loading, never updates it18:10
berndhsi'll go whine about it in #qt :)18:11
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berndhsnobody listening in #qt18:30
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dnearyDawnFoster, Hi tere! Well again?18:31
DawnFosterdneary: Feeling better, but still kind of sick unfortunately18:32
DawnFostersomething nasty that lasts about 2 weeks has been going around the office18:33
dnearyDawnFoster, Working away getting IRC & git data into database so that I can start reports work, and I have some nice wiki reports18:33
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dnearyDawnFoster, But the lack of access to hardware where I can put what I have online & get others involved is slowing me down.18:33
* CosmoHill waves at DawnFoster from across the room18:34
dnearyDawnFoster, Is there anything I can do to speed that up?18:34
DawnFosterhey CosmoHill18:34
DawnFosterdneary: do you still need that vm set up?18:34
dnearyAlso access to bugzilla & mediawiki would be really nice18:34
dnearyDawnFoster, Yeah18:34
dnearyI commented on the bugzilla entry recently to ping18:34
dnearyNo response18:35
DawnFosterdneary: ok, i'll follow up with Adam again18:35
dnearythanks18:35
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tekonivelo"waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p1..."18:43
tekonivelohow long should i wait?18:44
tekonivelois 2 minutes enough?18:44
tekoniveloi'm booting off an ssd -card, like recommended18:44
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gabrbeddone mississippi... two mississippi... three mississippii...18:46
CosmoHillfirst time it boots it takes a while18:46
CosmoHillor 3 rivers18:46
tekonivelothat "waiting for root" isn't an indication that nothing is happening?18:47
tekonivelo10 minutes?18:47
tekonivelodepends on the ssd card i guess18:47
CosmoHillyou mean SD card?18:47
tekonivelooops yes18:47
tekonivelois 30 minutes too much?18:48
CosmoHillyes I'd say so18:48
CosmoHill30 mins sounds more like a desktop install than a smart phone18:49
CosmoHillmaybe the image you downloaded was corrupted or you didn't use the correct boot options from flasher18:53
tekoniveloyeah that 's possiblel18:53
tekoniveloi guess the card should mount properly when i boot Maemo18:53
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dnearyDawnFoster, Julien messaged. Thanks for the pointer. How was SXSW?18:58
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jeremiahWhat tool do people use for dependency tracking in MeeGo?19:44
jeremiahSpecifically for reverse depends19:44
StskeepsOBS itself19:45
Stskeepsit has a nice feature19:45
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jeremiahSo why would a package, eggdbus, have 160 reverse dependencies?19:46
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Stskeepssomeone screwed up? got an example?19:47
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tekonivelonow i managed to boot to MeeGo20:08
tekonivelowell, it's doing something at least it seems20:08
tekonivelook desktop :)20:08
tekonivelonow let's see if this N900 is finally starting to makes sense, 2 years after release :^)20:09
Stskeepsi'd still wait a bit20:09
Stskeeps:P20:09
Stskeepswe're making giant steps currently though20:09
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tekonivelo like the UI graphics style concept20:10
tekoniveloperhaps those characters can be interacted with some day20:10
tekonivelolike they talk to you "hoi u has sms"20:11
tekoniveloor play games with them or something20:11
Stskeepsyes, it's the new notification system20:11
Stskeeps:P20:11
* tekonivelo is dreaming20:11
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Stskeepskinda like clippy on drugs20:11
tekoniveloi'd love a playful phone interface like that... phones are too serious20:11
tekoniveloStskeeps: aaaargh clippy!20:11
tekonivelosome japanese phone UI had a character that would run off the screen to "deliver" the messages you're sending20:12
tekoniveloand it would refer to other people's phone-avatars as it's friends20:12
tekoniveloi'd love it! :) :)20:12
gabrbeddtekonivelo: I heard someone's actually working on a Meegoan (sp?) themed game.20:12
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gabrbeddI can imagine them with voices like on South Park.20:13
gabrbedd"Oh, my god!  They killed Carten!  You bastards!"20:14
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gabrbedds/Carten/Carsten/20:14
infobotgabrbedd meant: "Oh, my god!  They killed Carsten!  You bastards!"20:14
Stskeepswhat, they killed me? :(20:14
gabrbeddDon't they have South Park in Europe?20:15
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Stskeepsyes they do, but it's cartman and not carsten20:15
Stskeepsmaybe it's carsten in germany20:15
Stskeeps:P20:15
gabrbeddWell, I was adapting it for MeeGo.  :-)20:15
Stskeeps;)20:16
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CosmoHillI thought he was called Kenny?20:16
gabrbedd(...and I think it was Kenny that was always killed))20:16
gabrbeddCosmoHill: Beat me to it...20:16
gabrbeddMaybe it should be Thiago that gets killed every episode.20:17
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Stskeepsor gabrbedd20:17
Stskeeps:P20:17
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gabrbedd:-)20:18
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RST38hmoo, people21:47
Stskeepsm0021:48
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CosmoHill|\/|oo21:52
RST38hhow are things? =)21:55
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CosmoHillgood22:10
CosmoHillposter is finished22:10
RST38hfinished some things here too22:11
RST38hFirefox ate up 550MB, God have mercy on us all..22:12
CosmoHillI'm doing things in the wrong order, your meant to do your dissertation first and poster second22:12
CosmoHillbut the poster is pretty much guiding me through my dissertation22:12
RST38hMake sure you have got Tom Lehrer's "Lobachevsky" playing =)22:13
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andre__DawnFoster: may I steal https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12589 from you by making myself the assignee? just an offer...22:45
_MeeeGoBot_Bug 12589 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Allow addition of 3rd party Components into bugs.meego.com22:45
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