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| lcuk | heh I thought moblin was rpm based? in the intel appup submission guidelines, I have encountered numerous references to it being deb | 00:57 |
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| lcuk | http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/article/application-submission-checklist | 00:57 |
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| wmarone | lcuk: apparently at some point in the past it was deb based | 01:01 |
| lcuk | wmarone, yeah I gather that | 01:02 |
| lcuk | I wonder when the intel appup pages will be revamped then | 01:02 |
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| * lcuk notes that appup is like maemo extras processes on steroids and similar to ovi | 01:05 | |
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| thresh | ohai | 01:05 |
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| GAN900 | lcuk, angrier and with a big neck? | 01:17 |
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| javispedro | hopefully more like the extras than ovi | 01:20 |
| javispedro | a lot of people dislike the extras qa process, but the ovi one... | 01:21 |
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| GAN900 | Extras is also easier to fix. | 01:27 |
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| jonnor | Where can I find the spec files of the packages in core meego? | 01:29 |
| jonnor | package in question is pygtk | 01:29 |
| lcuk | javispedro, read the intel one, its quite indepth also | 01:30 |
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| lcuk | and yeah, extras qa is much simpler :) | 01:31 |
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| jonnor | alternatively, how can I get the latest pygtk package from Trunk:Testing repository? | 01:35 |
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| jonnor | for meego netbook | 01:35 |
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| jonnor | aha, seemingly it is available here: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/core/repos/ia32/packages/ | 01:39 |
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| kaushik | is there any place where I can order a developer version of N900 phone? | 01:46 |
| kallam | kaushik: what developer version? | 01:47 |
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| kaushik | is there a developer phone for meego? | 01:48 |
| CosmoHill | Aava or something | 01:48 |
| kaushik | yes .. | 01:48 |
| CosmoHill | there are many As in it | 01:48 |
| berndhs | how is a developer phone different from a normal phone ? | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | it's easier to use and harder to brick? | 01:49 |
| CosmoHill | and when I say use I'm thinking about boot loaders and stuff | 01:49 |
| kaushik | yes ... I agree boot loaders and stuff | 01:50 |
| kaushik | btw.. where can i order it and which one is the best | 01:50 |
| lcuk | though that is not really a concern, n900 is fully usable and happy to be a day to day phone and a midnight hacking toy too | 01:50 |
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| thresh | other than it is incredibly slow sometimes and drains battery like hell | 01:51 |
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| kallam | kaushik: N900 meego development is done in standard N900 phones | 01:52 |
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| lcuk | thresh, sure, same as I can drive my car at 120mph all the time and burn through petrol | 01:52 |
| lcuk | my n900s do everything I want them too and last long enough to not be a concern | 01:52 |
| thresh | try gps next time! | 01:52 |
| kaushik | so we can use n900 phones and put meego .iso image on it for testing? | 01:52 |
| lcuk | thresh, i do when I need it | 01:52 |
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| jonnor | kaushik: yes | 01:53 |
| lcuk | but really, theres different uses | 01:53 |
| lcuk | kaushik, yes, thats the development model | 01:53 |
| lcuk | and due ot the way the images are laid out | 01:53 |
| lcuk | meego goes on the removable MMC | 01:53 |
| kaushik | cool .. | 01:53 |
| lcuk | and leaves maemo untouched and stable | 01:53 |
| lcuk | so just reboot out and your phone is back to the way it was before :) | 01:54 |
| lcuk | of course, if you are doing more intensive meego work, there are other boot options | 01:54 |
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| kallam | kaushik: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 | 01:55 |
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| kaushik | kallam: thanks | 01:55 |
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| lcuk | ( to the #meego-bar ) | 01:55 |
| kaushik | lcuk: thanks | 01:55 |
| jonnor | How to enable testing repositories does not seem to be documented. Should I just zypper addrepo, try to update the new packages I want to test, pray that I don't break everything? | 01:56 |
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| jonnor | Well, there is this http://wiki.meego.com/Upgrading_MeeGo_Versions but I certainly do not want to upgrade (update everything) | 01:56 |
| kallam | If you buy new MMC card, I suggest fast one like class 8 | 01:58 |
| jonnor | Or are there nightly iso images of the netbook ux? | 01:58 |
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| jonnor | ok, there are no nightly images, but there are snapshots on repo.meego.org | 02:01 |
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| kaushik | what is the --format for the .img files present in the repo.meego.com? I found that to be livecd but in my cae it generates .iso files ...why? | 02:13 |
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| odinm_uk | heh f**k, mindful meditation + warewolf strategy thinking + dehydration = self induced euphoria, less than half a pint of water eradicates it | 02:29 |
| kaushik | cannot find root file system. Create a symlink /dev/root | 02:29 |
| kaushik | ?? | 02:29 |
| odinm_uk | no more beer for me when playing warewolf me thinks | 02:29 |
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| class_girl | DOES ANYONE HAVE SAMSUNG APOLLO GALAXY | 02:34 |
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| SeshuCL | class_girl: Whats about it...GALAXY? | 02:40 |
| CosmoHill | I hate people like that | 02:47 |
| CosmoHill | this isn't your mate on msn, you have to wait for a response | 02:47 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:52 |
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| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: ping | 03:02 |
| timeless_mbp | anyone here recognize ARM1176JZF-S ? | 03:02 |
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| jonnor | timeless_mbp: recognize how? | 03:15 |
| timeless_mbp | well, like "oh, i know that processor, <foo uses it>" | 03:15 |
| jonnor | its being used in Freescale i.MX37 I think | 03:17 |
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| timeless_mbp | how old? | 03:18 |
| timeless_mbp | and how sane/close is it to the n900 or other things | 03:19 |
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| jonnor | http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=i.MX37 | 03:20 |
| jonnor | ballpark, I'd say about half the omp compared to the SoC in the N900 | 03:21 |
| timeless_mbp | and in terms of instruction set? | 03:22 |
| jonnor | what do you mean? | 03:22 |
| jonnor | the ARM1176 is ARMv6 instruction set | 03:23 |
| jonnor | and only the JZF-S has a floating point coprocessor | 03:23 |
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| Termana | morning | 07:28 |
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| Myrtti | moin | 08:18 |
| pixelgeek | This must mean it's time for me to go to bed then... | 08:19 |
| pixelgeek | 'night all | 08:22 |
| theodor | morn | 08:26 |
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| icesword | hi | 08:54 |
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| Myrtti | lcuk: did you eventually get those stickers for the N900? | 09:00 |
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| SunilThaha | Hi, do I require any special permission to create a branch in devel: ? | 09:08 |
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| sandst1 | SunilThana: if you want a subproject under devel:, i think that's protected with permissions but if you mean creating a branch with 'osc branch', you can basically branch anything | 09:11 |
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| SunilThaha | sandman_, can i branch Trunk:testing <packages> -> devel:<package> ? | 09:13 |
| SunilThaha | sandman_, sorry I meant sandst1 | 09:13 |
| sandst1 | SunilThana: sry, i meant you can make your private branches from anything | 09:14 |
| sandst1 | Trunk:Testing & devel: projects are protected, so you can do 'osc branch devel:project/package home:myusername:branches:devel:project/package' | 09:15 |
| sandst1 | SunilThana: but if you want to send something back to devel, you have to send a submitreq | 09:15 |
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| SunilThaha | sandst1, thank you | 09:20 |
| SunilThaha | sandst1, is it possible to publish my branch? | 09:21 |
| SunilThaha | any docs/rtfm on that? | 09:21 |
| sandst1 | SunilThana: have you got some specific branch in mind? | 09:22 |
| sandst1 | SunilThana: qt-mobility perhaps? | 09:23 |
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| sandst1 | SunilThana: What do you mean by publishing your branch..? If you have a branch in OBS, it's pretty much visible to everybody | 09:24 |
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| SunilThaha | sandst1, its SunilThaha and not SunilThana :) .. yes you are right .. Qt-mobiliy | 09:25 |
| sandst1 | SunilThaha: whoop, sorry :) | 09:25 |
| SunilThaha | and by publish I meant it being available in downloads.meego.com/live/... | 09:26 |
| SunilThaha | so that I can zypper addrepo .. | 09:26 |
| sandst1 | SunilThaha: http://build.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Atsunil%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Aqt-mtf%3Aqt-mobility%3A1.2 | 09:27 |
| sandst1 | SunilThaha: At least the publish flags are off, if you enable them, things should show up | 09:28 |
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| SunilThaha | sandst1, I see All and testing .. what does that mean? | 09:29 |
| SunilThaha | I think I am missing some basics ... is that an "essential doc a package maintainer should read" | 09:30 |
| sandst1 | SunilThaha: Those are the repositories you are compiling against. So if you enable the Publish Flag in All, it will show all the rpm's from all the repositories in download.meeog.com | 09:30 |
| sandst1 | SunilThaha: At least the OpenSUSE pages give a lot of info on OBS http://en.opensuse.org//Portal:Build_Service | 09:31 |
| SunilThaha | sandst1, thank you . | 09:33 |
| sandst1 | np | 09:34 |
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| whb | hello, does anyone ever use package---pocketsphinx &sphinxbase, many thanks! | 09:55 |
| Sage | lbt: ping | 09:55 |
| whb | I find it on IVI on meego | 09:56 |
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| whb | it is an opensource speech recognition library developed by CMU | 09:57 |
| whb | I can find any demo application use this library on ivi | 09:58 |
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| whb | Does any one ever use it on meego handset, many thanks | 09:59 |
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| lbt | Sage: pong | 10:20 |
| lbt | ah.... Sage: done | 10:20 |
| Sage | login, in mail, or what? :) | 10:20 |
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| whb | whbb | 10:34 |
| Sage | lbt: meaning is the login same as in meego.com or is there separate login? | 10:35 |
| alterego | Same login | 10:35 |
| alterego | It just needs to be enabled by lbt :) | 10:35 |
| Sage | nice, and now I need to get the login info somewhere. Used so much openid in meego services that it is hard to remember the pass :D | 10:36 |
| alterego | Heh | 10:36 |
| wxt | Does meego support ALS (Alternate line service)? | 10:36 |
| * alterego wonders what that is. | 10:36 | |
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| wxt | Does meego support ALS (Alternate line service) | 10:43 |
| alterego | Oh, is that when you have two numbers/lines on one SIM? | 10:44 |
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| Sage | lbt: thx it is working | 10:46 |
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| Sage | is the MeeGo:current:Core same as Trunk in build.meego.com? | 10:47 |
| wxt | yes, | 10:48 |
| wingo | hello every | 10:48 |
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| Sage | and it has a week/couple of days delay to that right? | 10:48 |
| lbt | Sage: of course :) | 10:48 |
| Sage | following the weekly releases? | 10:49 |
| lbt | Sage: yes,,, same | 10:49 |
| Sage | ok | 10:49 |
| lbt | not sure where our automation is at yet | 10:49 |
| wingo | who are you ？ | 10:49 |
| lbt | it's not 'live' | 10:49 |
| Sage | no need for live just wanted to know how sync it is | 10:49 |
| lbt | hi wingo | 10:49 |
| Sage | wingo: who is who? :) | 10:49 |
| lbt | will check | 10:49 |
| wingo | sage | 10:49 |
| wingo | sage is short for sagem ？ | 10:50 |
| Sage | no, just sage | 10:50 |
| wingo | Are you chinese ？ | 10:50 |
| Sage | http://meego.com/users/sage | 10:50 |
| Sage | no, from Finland. | 10:50 |
| lbt | wingo: are you interested in meego ? | 10:50 |
| wingo | yes | 10:51 |
| wingo | I am working for it | 10:51 |
| wingo | what about you ？ | 10:51 |
| Sage | wingo: I'm member of the MeeGo Nokia N900 hardware adaptation team. | 10:51 |
| Sage | lbt: is that pub obs free to use I mean, can I compile there what ever I want as long as it is under proper licenses? | 10:52 |
| wingo | glad to meet you | 10:52 |
| lbt | Sage: yes - but be polite | 10:53 |
| lbt | no closed code | 10:53 |
| lbt | nothing illegal :) | 10:53 |
| Sage | as said under proper license, i.e., open source :) | 10:53 |
| lbt | nothing too heavy (eg rebuild) | 10:54 |
| lbt | *nod* | 10:54 |
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| wingo | Sage：where are you now ？in finland | 10:54 |
| wingo | ? | 10:54 |
| Sage | wingo: yes | 10:55 |
| lbt | wingo: what do you work on? | 10:55 |
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| wingo | Work on megoo OS | 10:55 |
| lbt | hehe | 10:55 |
| lbt | which bit? | 10:55 |
| sivang | morning | 10:55 |
| lbt | who for? | 10:55 |
| wingo | sage:I'm a sagemwireless engineer | 10:57 |
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| Sage | hehe. No wonder you were interested about my nick :) | 10:58 |
| lbt | well, welcome to #meego wingo | 10:59 |
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| Sage | lbt: I have a one week vacation and if possible I'm trying to do some sparetime meego hacking and public obs would be nice place for it. Lets see if I can find the time :) | 11:00 |
| lbt | yeah - we're working on new workers to be in place for the break | 11:03 |
| Sage | Not much load for those current 3 at the moment it seems. | 11:04 |
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| wingo | sage：how can I join your team ? | 11:07 |
| Sage | wingo: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#The_team_and_the_work is a good starting point how to find the places where we are found. | 11:08 |
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| wingo | OK | 11:10 |
| wingo | sage:thanks | 11:10 |
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| tybollt | is it known whether there will be an OTA contacts sync for the handset version yet? | 11:39 |
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| lbt | miojala: we can chat here... not priv :) | 11:43 |
| lbt | so "yes" | 11:43 |
| lbt | what are you planning to do? opensource? | 11:44 |
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| Mek | wow cool, 9 build workers instead of the original 3 at the community obs :) | 11:50 |
| lbt | :) | 11:50 |
| JunJi | what's the obs version of the community meego obs? | 11:51 |
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| X-Fade | Mek: Well it is not really working yet. Hopefully today. Now the interface is just confused :) | 11:52 |
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| Mek | yeah, I noticed | 11:53 |
| X-Fade | obs worker setup fails spectacularly atm :D | 11:53 |
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| JunJi | I guess recently some rpms in the opensuse 11.1 repository changed, especially obs-api and it makes an error at RAILS_ENV="production" ... ... I solved it by using the obs-api in 11.1 repo. Anybody has the same issue? | 11:57 |
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| X-Fade | Mek: But you seem really active with your project. Let's hope we can speed up your builds later today. | 12:06 |
| Mek | it's already a lot faster/easier than maemo ever was :) | 12:07 |
| X-Fade | Mek: Well, we hope the new build machines are a lot faster than the current cworker01 one. | 12:07 |
| lbt | Mek: good feedback | 12:08 |
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| X-Fade | Mek: Just a warning, we might kill some of your builds today. Because of reconfiguration and upgrades. | 12:08 |
| Mek | sure, no problem | 12:09 |
| lbt | Mek: if that happens - and they don't restart, please file a bug | 12:09 |
| lbt | we should push that upstream | 12:09 |
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| X-Fade | But after we're done, we should have 4 build hosts. Instead of 1 now. | 12:09 |
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| lcuk | morning lbt, X-fade (or should that be Xmas-fase), mek, everyone \o | 12:28 |
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| lbt | hey lcuk | 12:30 |
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| lcuk | do we have any way to actually test/log temperature and spe | 12:51 |
| lcuk | ie, if I was going to try and pickup a number of mmc cards and want to run tests [cross post from -arm since its quiet everywhere] | 12:51 |
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| lbt | miojala: what are you planning to do? opensource? | 12:56 |
| lbt | miojala: should say "yes" .... just want to sanity check you're going to the right OBS | 12:57 |
| lbt | miojala: are you still here? I'm kinda busy. | 12:57 |
| miojala | yess | 12:58 |
| miojala | sorry, was afk | 12:58 |
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| lbt | :) | 12:58 |
| miojala | we have our codes in gitorius and they should be get into OBS | 12:59 |
| lbt | great | 13:00 |
| lbt | what's your meego account ? | 13:00 |
| miojala | mikko.ojala@digia.com | 13:01 |
| lbt | ah, miojala works | 13:01 |
| lbt | done | 13:01 |
| miojala | thank you | 13:01 |
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| lbt | np - just a sanity check - we have people trying to use it for closed stuff or thinking it's core obs | 13:02 |
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| Sage | lbt: even the build.meego.com should not be used for closed stuff (with the exception of trunk:non-oss for prorietary drivers) | 13:03 |
| Sage | IIRC | 13:03 |
| lbt | correct - but people do use their own OBS for closed | 13:03 |
| Sage | or have I missed something? | 13:03 |
| Sage | ok so I'm still on the same page :) | 13:04 |
| lbt | and we've had companies want to use it | 13:04 |
| lbt | (or at least engineers from companies doing closed code) | 13:04 |
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| lbt | dl9pf: pingy | 13:26 |
| lbt | dl9pf: does meego not use cross- rpm ? | 13:26 |
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| lbt | dl9pf: nm ... found speedrpm | 13:28 |
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| fantonio_br | Good Morning | 13:33 |
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| fantonio_br | I can install on my nokia c6-00 Meego | 13:36 |
| fantonio_br | ? | 13:36 |
| X-Fade | fantonio_br: no | 13:37 |
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| fantonio_br | X-Fade:No support? | 13:37 |
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| X-Fade | fantonio_br: Nope. The only nokia device with semi-support is N900. | 13:39 |
| * lbt imagines installation via blender.... simply take a device and a meego usb installer stick and blend them together.... report any booting bugs to youtube | 13:40 | |
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| fantonio_br | hun i understand | 13:40 |
| lbt | :D | 13:41 |
| fantonio_br | X-Fade: Thanks for the information | 13:41 |
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| fantonio_br | I to want collaborate which the project meego | 13:45 |
| thiago | great | 13:47 |
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| GF911 | Hi all. Guys, is there any change to listen to FM radio in meego? Assuming I have a radiochip. | 13:49 |
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| lcuk | GF911, check the bugzilla for features | 13:52 |
| lcuk | afaik things like that are already listed and you can cc yourself to the bug to track how its progressing | 13:52 |
| GF911 | Oh, thanks. | 13:53 |
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| lcuk | bug 9174 | 13:53 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9174 enh, Undecided, ---, joel.clark, INDE, [FEA] media player: FM/AM radio | 13:53 |
| lcuk | GF911, since that bug is in a strange state | 13:54 |
| lcuk | you could help them (if you have skills) and clarify the requirement | 13:54 |
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| GF911 | Will try, thanks once again. | 13:55 |
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| sumanth | hi are there any other repositories i need to add in addition to meego sdk repository. I am getting many dependancy issues which are not found in the default set of repositories on my ubuntu 10.04 machine | 14:37 |
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| jonnor | sumanth: what kind of application are you creating? | 14:38 |
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| sumanth | i am trying to create audio player test app using qt mobility . My app is causing segmentation fault. So i was trying to install qt mobility package which i got from repo.meego.com | 14:40 |
| sumanth | jonnor: i wanted to debug mobility code find what is the problem | 14:41 |
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| jonnor | sumanth: so what dependency problem are you having? | 14:44 |
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| sumanth | <jonnor> that package is listing many dependancies qt mobility needs libcontacts and many more each of these has some more dependancies so i was hoping there might be a new repository which i need to add to resolve | 14:46 |
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| jonnor | sumanth: the Meego 1.1 SDK should include Qt Mobility 1.0 and Qt 4.7 allready, no need to install anything | 14:51 |
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| sumanth | jonnor: i have 1.1 sdk taken from meego.com i can just see the header files and libs but i couldn't find the source code | 14:53 |
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| jonnor | sumanth: That is expected. The sourcecode is on qt.gitorious.org | 14:54 |
| jonnor | The source code is typically not needed to debug segfaults though. Unless you have good reasons to believe there is a bug in the library code. | 14:55 |
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| sumanth | jonnor: yes. but i wanted to add some debug statements and see the code flow for that reason i was trying to install the code | 14:56 |
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| sumanth | jonnor: when i tried to extract the source.rpm and build it i ran into build issues because of missing libraries. then i thought if i install the rpm package on my sdk it will automatically install the missing libs also :) | 14:58 |
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| X-Fade | Mek: Do your builds support parallel build? | 15:02 |
| Mek | they should, yes | 15:03 |
| X-Fade | Mek: Ok, then I should be able to speed them up on the new builders. | 15:03 |
| Mek | didn't the old builders already do parallel builds too? | 15:04 |
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| X-Fade | Mek: Yeah, I just wondered why it was only doing one core ;) | 15:05 |
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| Ragha | hello, gm all | 15:51 |
| Ragha | Is there something like Anatomy of MeeGo? | 15:51 |
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| Aparna | Ragha - what exactly are u looking for? | 15:58 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Ragha, is this https://mail.nokia.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=f422ebdace19420b92209da5a29a22dd&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwiki.meego.com%2fMarketing%2fMaterials%2fSlides what you're looking for? Consider the slides and videos from the 2010 Dublin Conference if you want something more technical. | 15:58 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Huh, I guess this is a better URL: http://wiki.meego.com/Marketing/Materials/Slides | 15:59 |
| jonnor | Ragha: see http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture | 15:59 |
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| Ragha | Aparna, a overview of all the components, fw and how do they stack up | 16:00 |
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| Aparna | Ragha - Then http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture is right starting point as stated by jonnor. For further information you can browse through the wiki | 16:01 |
| Ragha | Alison_Chaiken, thats better | 16:02 |
| Ragha | jonner, thats exactly what i was looking for, thanks | 16:02 |
| Aparna | Ragha - For any specific component information, you can ping in the channel and loads of us there to help ;) | 16:03 |
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| Ragha | Aparna, sure | 16:06 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | Survey for Dublin conference attendees: http://conference2010.meego.com/post-conference-survey | 16:15 |
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| GAN900 | Don't hand out hardware during the conference | 16:52 |
| GAN900 | or avoid handing it out in such as way as to ruin the only collab day of the collaboration conference. | 16:52 |
| berndhs | GAN900: yeah it was a conspiracy | 16:53 |
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| RST38h | Samsung conspiracy! =) | 16:55 |
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| RST38h | GAN900: Was it reall collaboration at least, or scripted collaboration? | 16:56 |
| GAN900 | RST38h, Monday and Tuesday were "Let's talk at the audience" days | 16:56 |
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| GAN900 | And Wednesday's unconference was ruined by the netbooks. | 16:56 |
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| GAN900 | So, no, for being the "collaboration" conference, there wasn't much collaboration and a lot ended up happenning to sabotage what little there might've been. | 16:57 |
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| mwichmann | and does the survey let you say that? | 16:58 |
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| GAN900 | mwichmann, comment field does, yes. | 16:59 |
| mwichmann | seems like if you can't convey that in the answers to the questions isn't not ideally designed... (said without looking, which I won't do since I didn't attend) | 17:00 |
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| mwichmann | s/isn't/it's/ if that didn't make sense | 17:01 |
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| qgilN900 | hi, there used to be handset images for netbook but I can't find them anymore in repo.meego.com ?? | 17:06 |
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| qgil_wetab | Stskeeps: ping | 17:08 |
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| GAN900 | mwichmann, well, some of the questions could potentially hit on some of those issues. | 17:09 |
| GAN900 | But without context. . . . | 17:09 |
| GAN900 | "The overall quality of the unconference was good." | 17:10 |
| GAN900 | Agree/Disagree/etc. | 17:10 |
| GAN900 | Well, I really liked the potential, but it was hampered by nobody attending most of the sessions. | 17:10 |
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| qgil_wetab | the closest i get is http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/images/but there is no "netbook" image there | 17:13 |
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| qgil_wetab | http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/images/ i mean | 17:13 |
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| GAN900 | Better to just have the OEMs come with a few dozen pieces and give them out to people they talk to during the course of the conference. | 17:17 |
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| * qgil_wetab wonders if something installable and usable in the WeTab could be extracted from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/meego-handset-ia32-mtf/ | 17:19 | |
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| qgil_wetab | ah, maybe lbt knows if there are handset ux image released for netbook thesedays | 17:32 |
| qgil_wetab | lbt, me wonders if something installable and usable in the WeTab could be extracted from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/meego-handset-ia32-mtf/ | 17:32 |
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| lbt | I'm quite keen to see the community space as a place to establish "unsupported ports" .. like wetab | 17:34 |
| lbt | (and joggler) | 17:34 |
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| qgil_wetab | wetab is intel/atom, so no "port" rellylbt | 17:36 |
| qgil_wetab | in 1.0.8x there used to be images for netbook under handsetimages, butapparently not anymore lbt | 17:36 |
| lbt | *nod* | 17:36 |
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| vgrade_ | qgil_wetab, this may be a way forward. Get the netbook UX up on the wetab then use the instructions here to convert to hanset UX | 17:59 |
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| vgrade_ | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Desktop/Changing_Desktops | 18:00 |
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| qgil_wetab | vgrade_: aha, good one. yeah now i remember that wiki page | 18:01 |
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| vgrade_ | qgil_wetab, did you get anywhere with the Ubuntu on wetab link? | 18:05 |
| qgil_wetab | well, I saw that were problem with touch or something - Irather put my time in MeeGo handset | 18:06 |
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| vgrade_ | qgil_wetab, indeed, I pointed to the ubuntu to get the "method" of booting the wetab with a new OS | 18:32 |
| vgrade_ | I guess you will need to build someting which is flashed to wetab or boots from an sdcard | 18:33 |
| vgrade_ | if the ubuntu guys have that sorted then you can use the same method with a MeeGo filesystem | 18:34 |
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| vgrade_ | this is the method I used on the ports I have done so far | 18:34 |
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| lcuk | vgrade_, the changing_desktops scenario is simpler | 18:47 |
| lcuk | at least for specific meego uxes | 18:47 |
| vgrade_ | lcuk, would this procedure work with the wetab | 18:48 |
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| lcuk | vgrade, my understanding of meego is that Meego Core sits there and is a stable base API and then there is a UX layer ontop | 19:04 |
| lcuk | so if the wetab is running meego, then I say why not? | 19:05 |
| lcuk | all it should need is knowing what the UX layer runs as its uxlaunch | 19:05 |
| lcuk | and then its rocking | 19:05 |
| lcuk | hell, it should technically be feasible to use the wetab UX on the ideapad | 19:05 |
| lcuk | providing of course the packages are on repository | 19:06 |
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| * Fargeee http://imagetwist.com/e1ubou2tvag6/156897_168406319867731_100000950924332_325446_5758311_n_1_.jpg.html | 19:07 | |
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| lcuk | vgrade, those instructions work currently to switch between netbook and handset (and very soon IVI thanks to jeremiah) purely because of the solid core that exists :) | 19:07 |
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| jeremiah | So there is some info on how to switch the IVI UX, but it looks like the definitive solution will have to wait a bit. | 19:20 |
| jeremiah | Intel is planning to do some work on mcompositor which they think will be the best solution going forward. | 19:21 |
| jeremiah | Right now the IVI UX uses matchbox and Xfce | 19:21 |
| lcuk | jeremiah, sure thing | 19:21 |
| jeremiah | :) | 19:22 |
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| xharada | hi, anybody knows how is the status of gst-openmax plugins for meego? Are they working already? | 19:28 |
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| haroun | Hi All, Need a help from you ... I am working on Meego OS bring up ( Based on Moorsetown hardware ) and using netbook image for test purpose ( Replaced kernel rpm with moorsetown kernel rpm ). using USB Meego Netbook image, able to boot the kernel and able to see shell prompt. But I am not able to see Meego UI. I suspect that our ramdisk image does not have all the binaries and folders required for Meego. Can you please give me some | 20:21 |
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| Stskeeps | check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /home/meego/.xsession-errors | 20:23 |
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| haroun | <Stskeeps> : "check /var/log/Xorg.0.log".... Is that for me ? | 20:26 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 20:28 |
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| Stskeeps | chances are is that you dont have pvr driver installed as you took netbook image | 20:29 |
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| haroun | Stskeeps : Thanks for your input.. Let me analyse my netbook image | 20:31 |
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| Etern4L | hellou all | 20:41 |
| Etern4L | i have just installed Meego on my eeepc 1008ha | 20:41 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, is installing ti-omap3-sgx-* rpms enough to get 3D acceleration, or do I need to add something to configuration? | 20:41 |
| Etern4L | i set upd my twitter account | 20:41 |
| Etern4L | but | 20:41 |
| Etern4L | it fails to log in | 20:41 |
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| Etern4L | i am sure i write my password correctly | 20:42 |
| Etern4L | can you help me with my twitter problem? also i cannot log in at gmail :'( | 20:42 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: no, need kernel side too and fbdev-sgx | 20:43 |
| smoku | Etern4L, meego twitter client uses old auth method which twitter disabled recently | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: bbl (in .dk) | 20:44 |
| Etern4L | aw.. because till 4 days ago i could log in :( | 20:44 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, oh. so it won't work with omapfb ? | 20:44 |
| Etern4L | do you know about my gmail problem? | 20:44 |
| Etern4L | i cannot log in | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: uses dri2 | 20:46 |
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| Etern4L | gmail tells me something about Certifications | 20:47 |
| Etern4L | The server's security certificate is revoked! | 20:47 |
| Etern4L | this i take when i try to log in at gmail :( | 20:47 |
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| Etern4L | the same problem exists when i try to log in Twitter :S | 20:49 |
| Etern4L | The server's security certificate is revoked! | 20:49 |
| Etern4L | :S | 20:49 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, do you remember what exactly do I need in kernel? | 20:50 |
| smoku | I got: | 20:51 |
| smoku | PowerVR device not found | 20:51 |
| smoku | Fatal server error: PVR2D_Init() failed | 20:51 |
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| haroun | Stskeeps : I am not able to find "/var/log/Xorg.0.log and /home/meego/.xsession-errors" folders and files in my shell prompt .. Can you pls advise on this ? | 22:16 |
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| lcuk | haroun, why are you expecting them to be there | 22:19 |
| Stskeeps | haroun: then it's /var/log/uxlaunch.log time | 22:20 |
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| haroun | Stskeeps: I am not able to see "var" and "home" folder in my shell prompt.. I think my image has wrong ramdisk .. Can you pls point me how to create "initrd.img" with all Meego binaries ? I used "sudo mic-image-creator --config=meego-netbook-ia32-1.1.80.10.20101214.1.ks --format=liveusb --cache=/home/haroun/.mic2_cachedir" command to create image | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | haroun: sorry, im not a atom developer, just telling you what your problem might be | 22:26 |
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| MohammadAG | maybe /tmp/Xorg.0.log? | 22:27 |
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| haroun | MohammadAG: not able to see "tmp" directory as well ... Any pointers pls ? | 22:29 |
| MohammadAG | do you have "/" mounted? :P | 22:29 |
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| haroun | MohammadAG: yes it is mounted .. Able to see "bin dev etc init lib proc root sbin sys sysroot usr" folders .. But none of the folder has Meego binaries.. | 22:31 |
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| haroun | lcuk: sorry i didnt noticied your msg last time .. the reason i am looking for the folders and meego binaries is .. My initial doubt is on my Ramdisk .. So I thought solving ramdisk problem ,can isolate doubts on ramdisk. | 22:40 |
| lcuk | what ramdisk? (sorry I missed whole conversation if you had one earlier) | 22:41 |
| haroun | lcuk : FYI - I am working on Meego OS bring up ( Based on Moorsetown hardware ) and using netbook image for test purpose ( Replaced kernel rpm with moorsetown kernel rpm ). using USB Meego Netbook image, able to boot the kernel and able to see shell prompt. But I am not able to see Meego UI. I suspect that my ramdisk image does not have all the binaries and folders required for Meego.Can you please give me some pointer , how to create pr | 22:42 |
| lcuk | ahh haroun | 22:43 |
| lcuk | have you got dmesg to check if any serious faults have been seen on boot to that point? | 22:44 |
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| Vendetta | I am trying to boot meego on moorestown hardware. It boots and gives kernel msgs and the last msg I saw was .. " mounted ext3 filesystem.." and then it shows black screen / blank screen | 22:47 |
| Vendetta | any idea? | 22:47 |
| Vendetta | Any one had this problem ?? | 22:47 |
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| Vendetta | I am trying http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/meego-handset-ia32-pinetrail-mtf/ image | 22:48 |
| Kaadlajk | isnt pinetrail atom image? | 22:49 |
| Vendetta | isn't moorestown and atom processor? | 22:50 |
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| Kaadlajk | sort of i guess but that is not the image you should use if you really have moorestown hw | 22:50 |
| lcuk | haroun and Vendetta - do you both wanna just see if you are using same board | 22:51 |
| RST38h | pinetrail and moorestown are both Atom-based SoCs | 22:51 |
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| RST38h | But they are not the same chip | 22:51 |
| Vendetta | then what image I shud use? | 22:51 |
| Vendetta | and for moorestown shud i use ... kernel-mrst or kernel-mid? | 22:52 |
| RST38h | probably pinetrail, as I doubt you have got a moorestown device | 22:52 |
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| Vendetta | i tried pinetrail ..its giving me a blank screen after a while | 22:52 |
| Vendetta | lcuk: we are using same board | 22:53 |
| lcuk | RST38h, why do you doubt people may be on platform XYZ | 22:53 |
| RST38h | Vendetta: have you considered checkingwhat kind of chip you have got there first? | 22:53 |
| Kaadlajk | aava and intel's older CDK have moorestown | 22:53 |
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| lcuk | Vendetta, are you able to give model refs to try and help | 22:53 |
| Kaadlajk | both not really publicly available | 22:54 |
| Vendetta | Kaadlajk: can you point me to that? | 22:54 |
| Vendetta | oh k | 22:54 |
| Kaadlajk | images are publicly available not the devices :) | 22:54 |
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| Vendetta | can you point me to images so that i can try | 22:54 |
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| Kaadlajk | afaik meego-handset-ia32-mtf image should work with moorestown CDK and aava device only requires one modification to kboot.cmdline | 22:56 |
| Vendetta | lcuk: model refs are not available to me .. the only thing at top level I know is ..it's moorestown ..i know i lack that info .. | 22:56 |
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| lcuk | ok Vendetta http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.80/1.1.80.10.20101214.1/handset/images/ are the main pre built images | 22:57 |
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| Vendetta | luck: yes i am following those images only.... | 22:58 |
| Vendetta | what is the difference in kernel-mid and kernel-mrst? | 22:58 |
| Vendetta | i opened .config and found both of them are mrst. | 22:58 |
| lcuk | the only other way I know to get Meego built for a specific variation platform would be to use the image builder and configure it yourself | 22:58 |
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| Kaadlajk | those names have changed since I played around with moorestown devices :-/ I am not sure what is what now | 22:59 |
| Vendetta | lcuk: I am considering that .. ultimately i know i will end up there but .. just wanted to try ..if any images (mrst) gives me a head start | 22:59 |
| lcuk | sure Vendetta | 22:59 |
| Vendetta | @Kaadlajk: ok | 23:00 |
| lcuk | most of the guys I have seen custom building images have been via the ARM end | 23:00 |
| lcuk | perhaps you could contact your upstream and see if they have the information about image types or their own cache | 23:00 |
| Vendetta | lcuk: yes .. trying hard for it | 23:01 |
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