IRC log of #meego for Wednesday, 2010-11-17

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CosmoHillJimmy Carr on channel 4 if anyone is interested00:04
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Cyberthi all00:06
CybertCan anyone help me with getting my touschreen to work on my Asus T101MT please?00:07
nialaMyrtti: I know same problem here with google translate00:07
CosmoHillCybert: what processor and graphics card do you have?00:07
CybertIntel Atom N450 (1.66GHz) processor00:08
Cybertand00:08
nialaCybert: what kind of difficulties00:08
CybertThe touchscreen is just not working :)00:08
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CybertAnd I thing it is an Intel graphic card to00:09
CosmoHillGMA500?00:09
nialaCybert: i have one and touchscreen work like mousepad he just no have 2 clic only left clic00:09
Cybertyes GMA50000:10
nialameego-1.1 work out of box00:10
Cybertnot on an Asus T101MT :(00:10
Cybertor do I need to calibrate it?00:10
MyrttiI wonder what GPU the Dell Inspiron Duo has00:11
Cybertniala how did you calibrated it?00:11
nialat101 is not a gma500 !! ??00:11
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nialawich version do you use? for me just work out of box00:12
Cybertniala 1.100:12
nialalsmod should have hid_egalax00:12
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Cybertniala no, no hid_egalax00:13
bernietimoph: I tried the 1.1 release, still no luck at booting it. maybe it's an incompatibility with my particular microsd model?00:14
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lardmanre00:14
lardmanbernie: is this using uboot?00:14
BDickhm?00:15
nialaCybert: you can try xinput_calibrator00:15
bernielardman: I did not change the default bootloader of my n900. what is it?00:15
bernielardman: I'm trying to boot from a kernel loaded with flasher (presumably in ram)00:15
Cybertniala what package I need to install for xinput_calibrator?00:15
lardmanah ok00:15
lardmanbernie: and you just get Maemo back all the time?00:16
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nialaxinput_calibrator00:16
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Cybertniala wait,... I think it is currently installed with version 1.01 let me upgrade ut00:16
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nialai m on 1.100:16
Cybertany way to check the version installed?00:17
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bernielardman: oops... I meant to say: the boot gets stuck waiting for the mmc device to show up00:17
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lardmanbernie: are you sure the mmc was large enough?00:17
nialaI know issue with touchscreen when notebook go in sleep mode and like as said no right clic00:17
nialaCybert:00:17
Cybertok version 1.0 is installed00:18
Cybertupgrading :)00:18
CosmoHilloh sweet00:18
nialaCosmoHill: you are ready for match tomorrow ?00:18
CosmoHillif you go to "about adium" and click on the duck it flaps it's wings00:19
CosmoHillniala: what match?00:19
nialafrance-uk !!!00:19
CosmoHilloh00:19
CosmoHillI'm indifferent00:19
CybertHey tommorow it is also belgium - russia :)00:19
nialaCosmoHill:  i see only reading fc lol00:20
CosmoHillhmm, chocolate or vodka00:20
lardmanbernie: you still there?00:20
lardmanCosmoHill: both00:20
Cybertniala: slap me,... I had installed version 1.0, and indeed version 1.1 works out of the box,...00:21
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CosmoHilllardman: so you'd like a draw00:21
lardmanOh I don;t care about soccer00:21
lardmanbut rugby is a different matter00:21
lardmanwell actually I wouldn't want the French to win no matter what ;)00:22
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nialaCybert: i m not sure if you can upgrade from 1.0 to 1.100:22
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Cybertniala: I am reinstalling it :) and even in the installer it works,...00:23
nialayes00:23
Cybertso niala,... thanks, you saved me a lot of brain-cracking :)00:24
Cybertit works fine now :)00:24
nialaCybert: well but only one finger :(00:26
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WIImani was wonder how fully the intergrated intel video card in dell mini 1012  is suported so i have a an idea what level of grphics and games i can run in meego 1.100:53
WIImanare the intell drivers for the graphics card the propierty drivers ?00:55
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Alison_ChaikenHey Dubliners, who wants to go for a walk and dinner tomorrow night instead of football game?01:10
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CosmoHillAlison_Chaiken: sounds like a good offer but I'm in the wrong country01:20
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lardmannight all01:34
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CosmoHillany times for writing a covering letter?02:21
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infobotCosmoHill meant: any tips for writing a covering letter?02:49
nialaCosmoHill: I cannot help you :)02:50
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nialaor maybe if you candidate in france02:51
CosmoHillI could say I'm applying for a job at bizzard02:52
Jucatoheh02:53
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WIImanim trying to build an app ./configure wants a gcc i686 not i586 wich is all i can finf in app manager04:54
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WIImanin meego 1.104:55
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bernielardman|gone: yes04:58
bernielardman|gone: the mmc was 8GB. I can mount the btrfs partition in it04:59
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bernielardman|gone: is there a way to get a shell inside the initrd?04:59
nialabernie: you mean at boot before X ?05:00
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bernieniala: I'm at boot before mounting root05:19
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Dimpy_Hello05:35
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Dimpy_Anyone can help me to get access in http://build.meego.com?05:36
Dimpy_I applied via meego bugzilla but did not get any response from last one week.05:36
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Derek_Guys, can you help me please.05:48
Derek_I was not able to use my N900 for the past week because of the power kernel update.05:49
Derek_And I'm trying to boot meego on a microSD card so that I can charge it up to reflash05:50
Derek_But everytime I try to write the img file with win32 disk imager, it says not enough space on disk05:50
Derek_on both my empty 2gb and 4gb card05:51
Derek_Any ideas on how to proceed?05:51
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Dimpy_Derek which meego image had u tried?05:52
Derek_I unzipped to extract this file to desktop: meego-handset-armv7l-n900-final-mod-1.1.0.0.20101101.3-mmcblk0p.raw05:53
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mgoddard|nokDimpy_: it's the MeeGo conference this week, relevant people are probably travelling/at the conference etc05:53
Derek_But I cannot write it to the memory card using win32 disk imager05:54
Dimpy_Derek you are using windows pc for the same?05:54
Derek_Yes, win xp05:55
Dimpy_it will be good if you can shift to ubantu where it works always.05:55
Derek_Yea, I saw some tutorial using ubuntu, but I don't want to get rid of my windows on laptop05:56
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Dimpy_mgoddard|nok - ok I will wait for some time till the conference is over.05:56
Dimpy_Derek - did u format your card before flashing?05:57
Derek_Is there a difference if I just drag it into the memory card?05:57
Derek_Yes, I format before and after and kept trying diff options since it didn't work05:57
Derek_to default, to fat3205:57
Dimpy_yes just drag will not work since it needs partitions.05:57
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Dimpy_win32 disk imager didnot work for me so i shift to ubantu for flashing05:59
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Derek_Can i run ubuntu as a virtual pc? this way I don't need to get rid of windows06:01
Dimpy_you can use VMware06:03
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Derek_am I suppose to change the extension on meego-handset-armv7l-n900-final-mod-1.1.0.0.20101101.3-mmcblk0p.raw06:04
Derek_and replace .raw to .img?06:04
Dimpy_As i know no need.06:05
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Dimpy_Derek did you compressed your image using bunzip2?06:07
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Derek_that might be the problem, i downloaded bunzip2 from gnuwin3206:10
Derek_but there isn't any exe file06:10
Derek_so i just tried ultimatezip and later tried 7zip to extract the file06:11
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Dimpy_http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/bzip2.php06:12
Dimpy_try this link one exe is there.06:13
Derek_That's the one i downloaded06:13
Derek_when i ran the file and did the installation06:13
Derek_there's only 5 files inside06:14
Derek_doc folder, man folder, 2 pdf files, and uninstall shortcut06:14
Dimpy_u installed the exe?06:14
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Derek_yes06:16
Dimpy_ok I will try in my windows xp system and update you in case same is working.06:18
Derek_Thank you so much for helping06:18
Dimpy_welcome06:18
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stylesenHow do I get a login in build.meego.com06:29
stylesenis there a document which explains this ?06:29
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Derek_am i suppose to execute bunzip2?  when i open up run-->cmd, i can't get this working: Uncompress raw image in command prompt "bunzip2.exe <compressed raw image>"06:31
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Derek_im going to take a quick shower while i wait for you dimpy, brb06:45
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Dimpy_Derek it didnot work for me in windows.07:18
Dimpy_If you have maemo N900 image in your N900 you can try to do it from xterminal which is a last option for you in case you dont want to use ubantu.07:20
Dimpy_then use windows flasher utility to flash the kernal, that should work for you.07:20
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dm8tbrhmm yesterday's sessions aren't online yet :/07:59
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aparnayctv you may want to check the session presentations for connected tv info08:02
aparnayctv - check MEEGO TV: DELIVERING BREAKTHROUGH INTERNET TV SOLUTIONS session08:03
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yctvme checking this out now08:04
aparnayctv - i dont think the presentations are available online but hopefully will soon be available08:04
yctvohh so the session presentations arent up yet?08:04
aparnayctv - in case u need any help/info feel free to ping here. BTW, we r hoping that videos will also be put up soon so it might help08:05
yctvcool .. i will wait for the videos to be up then08:06
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npmis there a way to flash a microsdhc card directly from maemo on n900, and then dual boot from the just flashed card?08:40
npm(as in url instructions?)08:41
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slonopotamusssh + dd?08:42
slonopotamusoh, from maemo08:42
slonopotamusumount + dd :P08:42
npmyes, no pc involved. ... re:08:42
npm" If you have maemo N900 image in your N900 you can try to do it from xterminal which is a last option for you in case you dont want to use ubantu."08:42
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npmi guess http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot08:44
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npmit says "type in your IMEI" where do i find that?08:46
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npmguess i should go to sleep since i can't read: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php08:47
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kempmanYou can see the IMEI by typing *#06# on the phone app.09:16
kempmanOr from the label under the battery.09:17
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zhangzehello, is there anyone using scratchbox to cross-compile application09:43
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GAN900Well, the party last night certainly seems to have thinned the herd this morning.10:20
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CosmoHillhangovers?10:25
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GAN900CosmoHill, evidently.10:43
GAN900I heard some people didn't get back 'til after 5.10:43
CosmoHillI hear that shouting and loud noises help make things better10:44
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GAN900I'll let someone else try that remedy.10:49
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timeless_mbpGAN900: where are you now?10:50
GAN900timeless_mbp, relaxing in the Terrace downstairs with fiferboy and frethop.10:51
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timeless_mbphrm, @hotel10:51
timeless_mbplemme grab breakfast and try to drop by10:51
timeless_mbpdo any of you have windows laptops?10:51
timeless_mbpi want to demo ovi suite for some people10:52
* timeless_mbp heard a rumor that there was a surplus supply of windows laptops10:52
Termanagood morning timeless_mbp and GAN90010:52
timeless_mbpgood morning10:52
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GAN900timeless_mbp, Windows?10:52
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timeless_mbpGAN900: yeah.. i know10:52
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timeless_mbpbut, ... it's a fun demo10:52
TermanaGAN900 wouldn't touch Windows with a 10 foot pole10:52
TermanaAM I RIGHT?10:52
GAN900Maybe if the Lenovos show up and they fast track the MeeGo install.10:52
timeless_mbpno touching required10:52
GAN900Termana, might need to be longer.10:53
timeless_mbpi install NVDA so you can listen10:53
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timeless_mbpGAN900: did you get the new toy?10:57
timeless_mbpand did they announce what's up w/ them?10:57
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GoolHi, what is mcompositor?11:11
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GAN900timeless_mbp, stuck a MeeGo Community Council session on the unconference board.11:29
GoolHi, I have difficulties debugging my application in qemu emulator, does anyone can help me?11:29
timeless_mbphrm11:29
timeless_mbplemme get out of bed?11:29
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GAN900timeless_mbp, you and Jaffa.11:30
GAN900timeless_mbp, it's after the MeeGo ARM BoF.11:31
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timeless_mbpso no sign of toys?11:32
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CosmoHillwill there be any group pictures? It would be nice to put names to faces11:33
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* CosmoHill noms breakfast and offers tea11:37
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nialahello #meego11:38
CosmoHillbonjour niala11:38
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nialaconference stream finish ?11:40
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stephgniala: I was just looking at that, seems so11:40
nialaaparently yes no conf today11:40
nialastream11:40
nialanothing today stephg11:42
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CosmoHillI think today it's just hands on demos and worshipping the toilet11:43
stephgbig night last night? oh CosmoHill  you're not in .ie are you11:43
CosmoHillnope, I'm at home11:44
stephg(as am I)11:45
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GAN900niala, unconference and BoFs.11:47
CosmoHillfor those of you who had one or two too many, here is some light entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSK1D3bZhRs11:48
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CosmoHill(video contains swearing)11:49
CosmoHill(and a cat)11:49
nialaI dare not see the emails from Meego there must be 15011:49
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Bostikthe mailing lists have been rather quiet while the active people are in conference11:50
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CosmoHillI'd imagine that most of the people on the mailing lists are in dublin11:52
CosmoHillso they're probably talking to each other there11:52
lardmanmorning all11:52
CosmoHillhey dude11:52
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lardmanany video today?11:52
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nialatrue not a lot of emails11:53
nialalardman nop11:53
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lardmanoh :(11:53
CosmoHillnothing good on tv either :(11:55
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nialaCosmoHill: I imagined mails "which means going to a restaurant tomorrow night"  but no :)11:56
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nialaI at least learned one thing during the conference:  expression  'Birds of a Feather '12:00
niala:p12:00
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CosmoHilldid you learn that in the "birds of a feather" section? :p12:01
bef0rdwhat's that supposed to mean niala12:02
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bef0rdthe expression I mean. non native speaker here :)12:03
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* CosmoHill starts his coding homework12:07
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Myrttibef0rd: wikipedia to the rescue :->12:11
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bef0rd:B12:14
nialahow to enable 'handset' repository quickly ?12:15
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stephgniala: ?12:20
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nialazypper -f http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/12:21
nialabut not sure about http://......./repos12:22
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lardmanbbiab12:22
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dm8tbrblerp, still no recordings online from yesterdays talks :(12:23
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stephgniala: just copy one of the other ones from /etc/zypp/repos.d?12:24
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nialastephg: ? sorry a nug I don't know if you write before12:25
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niala/nug/bug12:26
stephgniala: there are repo definitions in /etc/zypp, can't you just copy one of those12:26
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nialayes I have netbook repos and i want add handset repos. and in http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/repos/  i don't find  a *.repos12:28
CosmoHillaww, I found a programming blog with pictures of kittens12:28
stephgheh12:30
nialaCosmoHill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8&feature=related12:31
nialai presume you allready know12:31
CosmoHillawww12:31
lcukCosmoHill, kittens are awesome.12:32
stephgI love that kitten12:32
CosmoHilllcuk: do you know a good way to kill all your child processes?12:33
CosmoHillhttp://t-a-w.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-kill-all-your-children.html << kitten perl blog12:33
nialaCosmoHill: cut electric cable12:33
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CosmoHillhmm12:35
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CosmoHillI think with another pipe I might be able to send a signal to the last command and kill all it's parents12:36
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nialaCosmoHill: on what you works ?12:38
stephgCosmoHill: shirley you just need to grep on the parent ppid in the other column and pass that on12:38
* stephg thinks of everything in terms of the shell12:38
GAN900Very defensive Nokians here in the bugzilla BoF12:38
CosmoHillmy program is in c++ and creates a process ring12:38
CosmoHillit's more of a processor line with the last one sending to the first12:38
nialaGAN900: very defensive?12:38
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GAN900niala, quick to react defensively to things they see as criticism.12:39
CosmoHilli basically need to find a way to break a pipe using a singla12:39
nialaahhh well maybe because is a young project ?12:39
CosmoHill*loop12:39
MyrttiGAN900: got an SMS today that my phone is apparently fixed, need to go get it at one point and ask wtf was wrong with it12:39
nialaGAN900: what about bugzilla and security alerts? only for intel and nokia people ?12:40
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timeless_xchatso, i'm going to do a talk on mxr12:41
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lcuktimeless_xchat, which slot did you get?12:41
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* CosmoHill claps cos he's figured out how to kill them all12:46
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CosmoHillokay, out of context that makes me sound like a murderer12:46
timeless_xchat12p in the l10n room12:46
stephgheh12:47
lcuktimeless_xchat, awesome12:47
lcukCosmoHill, yes12:48
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CosmoHill    kill(finalPID, SIGINT); // Kill them all, mwhahah12:50
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CosmoHillsweet, the 2nd hard part is over (I did the hardest yesterday)12:51
Myrttihyyyyrrrrr, cold12:51
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CosmoHillI had the idea of using the main pipe which all the children know about to send the PID first, then send the actual data :)12:52
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pmichalskiHi, the repos are working insanely slow. Does any one know why ?12:54
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powerhello,is there a way to install meego on n900 , wiping maemo (ie no dualboot, no external SSD)12:56
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CosmoHillpower: yes but there is no documentation for it and it's very hard12:56
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powerthanks for the answer CosmoHill. so what do you recommend, if i dont have an external SD card12:59
stephgpower: buy an sd card :)12:59
powerlol12:59
CosmoHillI was gonna suggest "go shopping" but yes, you will need an external SD card12:59
powermy /Mydocs is empty already12:59
powercant i use it ?12:59
stephgpower: not yet I'm afraid13:00
CosmoHillthe only people who have managed to put MeeGo onto the interal SD card are nokia employees13:00
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powerouch. ok thanks13:00
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CosmoHilli'd guess that less than five people have done this13:00
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powerthats interesting. having dual OS on a phone makes no sense to me13:02
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Aardpower: one you can actually use, and one you can play with?13:02
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powerthat may be, if meego is not %100 functional yet on n90013:03
CosmoHillwell it's still being developed13:03
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timeless_mbpYou have two choices:13:05
powertbh i dont like debian based OS'es, it will be a very nice upgrade for me13:05
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timeless_mbpRed Striped USB stick which include the closed source BroadCom WiFi driver13:05
timeless_mbpunstriped USB stick - totally open source13:06
timeless_mbpIf you want WiFi, you either take the Red Striped, or you write your own driver13:06
power3G works right ?13:07
timeless_mbpnot mentioned13:07
poweri personally dont use wifi, 3G is pretty fast here,and ive a 4GB contract/month13:07
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timeless_mbpNo Free Lunch13:07
timeless_mbpDevelopers need to write cool software13:07
timeless_mbpEveryone else needs to show off MeeGo13:07
timeless_mbp[ people stand up needlessly in line for devices which are not here yet ]13:08
CosmoHill*cough* N9 *cough*13:08
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sx0nNi!13:10
Bostik\o/ QtMobility 1.1 release, rudimentary and potentially dysfunctional build for meego finally passed13:10
timeless_mbpDawnFoster: geo ping, where are you? :)13:10
powerif nokia removes keyboard,then i dont think ill be buying it13:10
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sx0nkeyboard?13:11
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ShadowJKboard with keys, you press key, symbol appears in screen13:12
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sx0nwhy phone need such things.. it's about speaking, not writing13:13
CosmoHillit's because of all them twits13:13
Goolyou're my last hope, guys.. I'm running qemu based emulator and try to debug some app on it, but gdb could not connect to gdbserver on emulator, why??13:13
nialateet virtual keyboard13:13
nialawhere is enter key ?13:14
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ShadowJKI wouldn't care much if speak functionality was missing :)13:14
powerhaha agreed13:14
powerthe only thing i ve on it is chroot debian13:15
DawnFostertimeless_mbp: I'm here at the reg desk near unconf board13:15
sx0nwell n9 will probably have many keys, so no problem there13:15
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sx0nhopefully it has also decent speech recognition software.13:16
timeless_mbpDawnFoster: ok :)13:16
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niala-anybody know where is enter key in virtual keyborad ? lol13:17
stephgniala: we don't have one13:17
stephgI don't think13:17
nialatimeless_ nice day in dublin ?13:18
stephgisn't it kinda like maemo where when you've finished typing you click outside the keyboard to remove it?13:18
nialasteyes13:18
timeless_mbpniala: yeah13:18
nialastephg: yes13:18
timeless_mbpniala: ctrl-j?13:18
nialaand wrote blind13:18
nialareal keyboard works13:19
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timeless_mbpsx0n: so you'd like fries and a pony with that?13:20
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MyrttiI prefer unicorns13:20
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sx0nrainbows!13:21
nialashift space13:21
niala don't work13:21
nialabut symbol is on space when i press shift13:21
sx0ntimeless_mbp, cmu sphinx probably works on it anyway.13:23
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phellarvPowerkernel(45) + Latest weekly meego (1.2) does not play well together. "mtdoops ready 42,43 (no erase)" - Atleast it's what I think it says, since there is no backlight.13:25
phellarvAnyone seen this before?13:25
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stephgphellarv: that's odd13:27
phellarvstephg: Gonna try to dd the image once more.13:29
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stephgphellarv: I don't use any of the custom kernels on maemo so I don't know but the I don't see why they would interfere with each other13:29
sx0nhas anyone tested this patch: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video ?13:30
phellarvstephg: Me neither.13:30
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ShadowJKsx0n, so, this is a patch that makes things that need tiny minimal amounts of cpu get that cpu immediately they want it, when there's 64 other processes that want all the cpu they can get13:32
phellarvstephg: Blargh - I dd'ed the wrong image..... *facepalm*13:33
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stephgI love it when that happens13:33
sx0nShadowJK, something like that, caches tty or something13:33
sx0nShadowJK, just wondering that tracker might benefit such patch13:33
ShadowJKno I think it groups things together as a unit, so that the 64 preprocessor-compiler-assembler-linker chains get considered as a single task from an interactivity point of view13:34
nialaghhghk13:34
nialagggggg13:34
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nialadd?↵hhhfhhh13:34
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nialaannoying a keyborad with no enter key :)13:34
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nialaah euh sorry13:35
nialasorry sorry13:35
ShadowJKniala, did you just prove the need for an enter key? :)13:35
GAN900timeless_xchat, room 441 at noon for "MeeGo Community Council?"13:35
ShadowJKsx0n, I imagine biggest thing with tracker is I/O :-)13:35
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ShadowJKit doesn't use much cpu at all, does it..13:36
DocScrutinizerthumbnailer at least eats CPU like candy13:36
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nialaok i see it's depend of app13:36
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GabsHi!13:37
sx0nmining probably takes all cpu that it gets.13:37
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ShadowJKthe indexing is atleast minimal cpu and maximum io13:37
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GabsI'm playing around with meego live on my network before I give it a full install, was wondering if anyone had got wireless working on it for a realtek rtl8192E ? Being from an ubuntu background (lubuntu actually) there's a ppa for the samsung that i use, but i guess that wouldn't work on meego13:39
ShadowJKSome of Con's memory related patches look more interesting for MeeGo on n90013:40
poutsihey, anybody know why, when creating runtimes with mad-admin, it tries to ssh into the qemu as "developer" although no such user exists in the image?13:42
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GabsIs there anyway of running ndiswrapper on meego?13:44
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sumanthwhile installing the sdk, after following the info from http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.1/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux#Installing_the_MeeGo_SDK and while adding gpg key I am getting the following error gpg: requesting key 79FC1F8A from hkp server pgpkeys.mit.edu ?: pgpkeys.mit.edu: Connection timed out gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: Connection timed out gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total numbe13:46
Myrttiyour message got cut of at gpg: Total number13:47
Pforcezypper, wget etc didnt seem to work at the hotel13:48
Pforcedue the bitbuzz thingie :P i think13:48
Pforcebrowser you could dl the rpm and install from that13:48
Pforceslow stuff13:48
sumanthMyrtti: Total number processed: 0 so any help ?"13:48
Myrttiso you prolly need a cookie to bypass the proxy, Pforce13:49
PforceMyrtti: yeah something like that, id think their website would provide this kind of info or the paper that was given in checkin13:49
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MyrttiPforce: it's against their interests to allow people to gobble up bandwidth with downloading the sourcecodes of libre- and openoffice13:50
Myrttiwith weird methods13:50
Pforcewell you can do whatever with the browser so i dont see the point13:50
Pforceand this is the hotel wifi13:51
CosmoHillany tips of writing a covering letter?13:51
Pforcei doubt the conference said to block anything, its just  their weird system13:51
Myrttiand if I start to sound incoherent, that's because I've not had coffee yet and I've slept two hours13:51
MyrttiCosmoHill: "plz hire me, I knows the Interhwebs. kthxbai"13:51
CosmoHillI R l33t, h1re me plz13:52
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Myrtticoffee ;_____;13:53
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CosmoHillI have the question "act on my own initiative and taken responsibility for outcomes". from this I've learnt that using my own initiative gets me shouted at14:04
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CosmoHillI hate these questions, it's as if they don't want you to understand and answer them14:07
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MyrttiCosmoHill: sounds like the questionnaire Alan Turing had to fill in when joining the home front during WW214:20
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Myrtti"do you understand that by signing this form and joining the home guard you will be subject to war laws" "hmmm... there's no obvious benefit from answering yes, so the correct answer must be no"14:20
Myrttihe wanted to join only to learn how to shoot and the questionnaires were checked only for signatures, after that he started skipping the meetings which got him into trouble. When questioned about his absences he just calmly replied "but I haven't been recruited right, look at my questionnaire"14:22
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CosmoHillhehe awesome14:23
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ivrubanohi! can anyone help me with open gl es 2 on meego emulator?14:26
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npr664hello!14:50
CosmoHillhi14:51
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yctvHi I am using Xephyr and i type in startmeego-debug . It gives an error "Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?" . My DISPLAY is set to :0.014:51
mgedminthat's likely to be wrong14:52
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mgedminXephyr usually starts on :2 or something like that14:52
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CosmoHilloh your shitting me15:05
CosmoHillI made one phone call and my battery has died15:05
CosmoHillit said I had full battery15:05
CosmoHillI've also just crashed the vodaphone automated phone line :/15:06
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pupnik_Group Scheduling gets praise from Torvalds:  'I think this is firmly one of those "real improvement" patches. Good job. Group scheduling goes from "useful for some specific server loads" to "that's a killer feature"' - Linus Torvalds http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=115:10
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CosmoHillI've been meaning to read that15:11
CosmoHillthe post nearly took down their servers15:11
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phellarvFirst time boot on meego - Takes a lot of time?15:13
CosmoHillon the n900 yes15:13
nialasu15:13
nialaFederer67!15:13
phellarvCosmoHill: Mmm15:14
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nialaf.... you see nothing  :-/15:14
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GAN900You missed the exciting MeeGo Community Council talk.15:24
ShadowJKthere's a meego community council?15:24
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CosmoHillon the Nokia website is says the battery I'm looking at is "Sim free"15:28
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pupnik_ok now i googled who federer is and that is very funny ;)   hey lcuk !15:28
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DebolazIs full disk encryption planned for the MeeGo Netbook distribution?15:32
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GAN900ShadowJK, we had an unconference discussion about it.15:34
ShadowJKCosmoHill, I remember when batteries could have sims :)15:36
crashanddieCosmoHill, they're not wrong15:36
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CosmoHillauke: .o/15:59
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dm8tbrday 2. videos are not happening?16:33
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Myrttidm8tbr: huh?16:34
npr664someone know in that package is the image of begin of Meego?16:36
CosmoHillcan you rephrase that question?16:36
npr664initially it is in plymouth-lite16:36
npr664the image that appear with Meego start16:37
dm8tbrMyrtti: yesterday the videos for day1 appeared around 0000z. so far there are no videos for day 2.16:37
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odinmmaybe everyone was at the party last night and too overloaded with beer to work a computer (re day2 videos)16:41
Myrttidm8tbr: I'm personally surprised that a) both days and b) all sessions were recorded16:41
dm8tbrodinm: I was suspecting something like that16:42
dm8tbrMyrtti: me too, it just so happens that being able to watch 3 recordings of talks that happened yesterday would be extremely helpful to me. So I keep reloading pages and staring.16:43
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JucatoMyrtti: although it's pretty ironic that the videos for the live streamed ones of day 1 are not yet up :)16:56
Alison_ChaikenDubliners, meet at 18:00 in D4 Hotel lobby if you prefer walking, eating and drinking beer to watching football.16:56
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odinmthats a formal irc handle, watch out for stalkers16:58
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Alison_ChaikenDawnFoster, should we send you notes from today's BoF sessions?17:06
DawnFosteractually, notes should be posted to the wiki17:06
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DawnFosterhttp://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010/Unconference#Session_notes17:06
Alison_ChaikenDawnFoster, thanks.17:09
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npr664Hello!17:24
npr664what Do package install the image /boot/extlinux/splash.jpg?17:24
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CosmoHillI'd quiet like that 200 line patch on my mac17:36
CosmoHillI can't watch a video and load a webpage17:36
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lcukwhat an awesome time everyone has had last few days18:23
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MyrttiI have a new hobby18:23
MyrttiI'm speculating over what hardware other than CPU the Dell Inspiron Duo has18:23
Myrttiit's a way of selfsuggeration "I don't need or want Lenovo IdeaPad the lucky bastards got"18:24
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pupnik_Myrtti: the x200t i got for 850 euro is my dream machine.  hard to find them under 1k18:27
pupnik_and i could have had a laughable ipad for the same money...18:27
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lcukMyrtti, you mightv missed on the hardware but you will specifically benefit from it when all the patches and tweaks come through from this18:29
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lcukwalking over the install instructions for everyone there was a nice touch :)18:31
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KubuntiacIs installing MeeGo on a laptop, pretty much the same as installing any other Linux distro, or is there anything special one needs to know?18:39
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lcukKubuntiac, laptop chipset specifics effects the installability18:41
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lcukie, atom intel chipset etc18:41
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UlfHofemeierHi18:48
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lcukhmm bug, the ideapad harddrive is still whirring and device gets warm when the lid is just closed and device packed into bag.18:58
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thiagowho got the ideapad with SSD?18:58
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lcukthiago, were they in the initial tuesday shipment or today?19:01
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lcukor was there only a single one!19:01
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thiagoI don't know19:03
thiagoI heard rumours19:03
thiagoI've got one of those in the office in Oslo19:03
thiagobut the battery died\19:03
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lcukhaha19:04
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lcukspeaking of which, I just plugged in charger, then wanted to see if it was charging so clicked battery icon thingy, then unplugged charger and entire device shutdown19:05
lcuk(it was on ~80%)19:05
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lcukanyway, time for pre-prematch beers19:05
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NooBmonk3ypre-prematch beers? nice19:06
CosmoHilldidn't you people get wasted last night?19:06
CosmoHillwhat time is the match?19:07
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CosmoHillhttp://dizorb.com/2010/05/28/hd-wallpaper-geek-by-juliano-vieira/19:08
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Myrttiihihiiii http://flic.kr/p/8U8NxV19:24
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Myrttidonation version is £2.00, might actually buy it. Would anyone want to code similar app for MeeGo ;-)19:25
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Alison_ChaikenMeeGoCon dinner leaves from D4 Ballsbridge Towers lobby in 10 minutes.19:49
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CosmoHillmy nokia runs on magic, it's had an almost dead battery for the last few hours and now it has two bars of life20:34
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RST38hYOu took it offline, right?20:34
CosmoHilloffline?20:34
CosmoHillI started playing videos and going on the gps when it said it was low20:35
RST38hCell radio off, messagin off, WiFi off?20:35
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CosmoHilldammit, this is why I don't watch the news20:36
CosmoHill18 ~ 24 year olds are screwed because of the lack of jobs20:36
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RST38hYou forgot to mention the country20:39
CosmoHillUK20:39
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mece@MikaelJugner: Nyt kaikki peukut pystyyn MeeGon puolesta. Harvoin niin isot asiat ovat olleet kiinni näin pienestä asiasta... Go, MeeGo, Go!!20:40
mecewtf?20:40
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RST38hCosmo: "They should obviously go through professional education to gain skills valuable in the marketplace!"20:40
* RST38h cackles, Mr Burns' style20:41
CosmoHillby the time I start looking for a job I should have a degree :)20:41
meceI've been too busy working to get my degree...20:41
RST38hWill your skills be valuable in the contemporary marketplace though? =)20:41
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RST38h...The speaker will be The Honorable Madeleine K. Albright, Chair of Albright Stonebridge Group...20:44
RST38hMeh.20:44
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CosmoHillRST38h: I'm here aren't I :p20:46
RST38hCosmo: I doubt this will count as marketable skills =)20:46
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CosmoHill"I have years of experience with open source projects and providing support for their users"20:54
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Myrttiwhich reminds me to look at my cv on my webpages20:56
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CosmoHillI need to do a CV by friday20:58
RST38hhere is a better topic: how do I query a berkeley db in Maemo or Meego?20:59
RST38hfrom command line or PHP20:59
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fralspython in maemo has the module for accessing it iirc20:59
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fralss/in maemo/in fremantle/21:00
infobotfrals meant: python in fremantle has the module for accessing it iirc21:00
RST38hfrals: Not interested in Python. PHP.21:00
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fralscan *probably* do a oneliner for cmdline by using python21:01
RST38hOnce again: No Python.21:01
RST38hLightHTTPd + PHP21:01
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fralsright, i was going on the "command line or php"21:02
RST38hFound it.21:02
RST38hdbm*() API21:02
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CosmoHillNokia 6700 slide, where does that come in the range?21:15
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ShadowJKif it just has a number, it's pretty low end21:21
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CosmoHillbye bye odinm21:21
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RST38hUrgh. No PDM or PDA modules in the local PHP install.21:22
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RST38hThat poor .db file contains VCards anyway, who came up with the bright idea of storing it in .db?21:27
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jacekowski~seen ali123422:24
infobotali1234 <~ajb@robotfuzz.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 6d 6h 15m 24s ago, saying: 'Qt mobility is supposed to get rolled into Qt eventually anyway'.22:24
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