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vgradeAfter getting MeeGo up on my Poulsbo based O2 Joggler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnwfVtHuhoI) have prepared a kickstart file for Poulsbo/GMA500 based netbooks.04:19
vgradeI don't have one of these netbooks, but if you are interested in Meego please build an image and report back. (user vgrade on #meego)04:19
vgradehttp://wiki.meego.com/Please_Test04:20
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b0xyHey guys. Just got Meego installed on my Asus 900A and it boots fine with the USB drive plugged in (the installation media), but won't boot when it's not. I get a "unable to mount root fs on unknown" message. Any ideas?05:24
b0xyIt's like it's installing to /dev/sdb and when I unplug the thumbdrive, it's still looking for the hard drive at sdb instead of sda05:24
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ChildOfGodI am trying to launch the people panel in the netbook ux from within another panel. I cant get it to work. Any pointers?08:19
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niqthi10:22
niqt how i  can install qt 4.7 im meego-sdk?10:22
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faboniqt: you need access to MeeGo OBS10:40
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fralsor add one of the daily builds as an update source?10:47
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fabofrals: where have you seen daily build of Qt 4.7 ?10:55
faboif you talk about the pre-release, it shouldn't be used10:55
faboat least beta2 should be used or the upcoming rc110:56
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fralsyeah was the prerelease10:58
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niqtthus, i can't install it?11:05
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vljhi11:20
vljvgrade: it "almost" works but it's not that great =(11:20
vljI only got xterm and xclock...in the best case11:21
vljin the worst case I got endless X restart with flickering11:21
vljI think it is related to xorg config...11:23
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Stskeepsvlj: get a Xorg.0.log please11:24
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lcukmorning #meego \o11:33
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w00t_(ooh, look at the hidden joke)12:05
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X-Fadew00t_: You really should try stand up ;)12:06
w00t_X-Fade: too lazy, sitting down is easier12:06
w00t_(.. i'm here all week)12:06
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X-FadeBooo hiss.12:07
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fabow00t_: do you recommend some git readings? links, etc...12:14
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Khertanfabo, git readings ? you mean a manual about git ?13:04
faboKhertan: yes, except the regular doc, git tutorials.13:05
Khertan<lcuk> ShadowJK, add sdk and tools repo, apt-get install build-essential :P13:05
Khertan* MiskaX (~jussi@rankki.sonarnerd.net) a rejoint #maemo13:05
fabowoot gave me good advices in the past ;)13:05
Khertanoups ... wrong copy paste :)13:05
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Khertanfabo, the community git book is very good13:06
Khertanhttp://book.git-scm.com/13:06
Khertani learn using git with it ... (and there is many translation in many language)13:06
fabook, thanks.13:07
SageHi, anyone know if I can do .spec with spectacle where the master package does not contain %files section, i.e., only subpackages are created?13:07
SageOr how to remove the requirement of "master" package from subpackages13:08
faboSage: NoFiles: yes13:09
fabosigh, I give spectacle hints :(13:09
lcukKhertan, i dont mind being pasted wrong occasionally.  good morning13:10
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Stskeepsresistance is futile, You will be assimilated13:10
Stskeeps:P13:10
Khertangood morning ... sorry for disturbing you :)13:10
fabohehe :)13:10
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Khertansomeone have already use the community obs to build package from a setup.py distutils script ?13:11
faboKhertan: no, just qmake based packages so far13:12
Khertani ve made a deb package from a dsc but not yet tested it13:12
Khertanand i ve try to use directly as a repository on my n900 but without luck ... due to folder name :)13:13
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neosisanican you tell me which is md5 sum of meego-netbook-chromium-ia32-1.0-20100524.1.img ?14:41
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ObKoHello! I trying to port meego to omap-based device. I have an old kernel (2.6.27) with old PowerVR driver, so I'm trying to run meego's X server using only FB device. I add http://pastebin.org/441056 to /etc/X11/xorg,conf.d/50-video-fbdev, but X server always try to load PowerVR driver (http://pastebin.org/441042). How to told X server not to load PowerVR module?14:42
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StskeepsObKo: what xorg fbdev driver is that?14:43
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ObKoIt's a standart meego fbdev...14:44
Stskeepswhat image are you basing on?14:44
ObKodaily from n90014:44
Stskeepsgive an url please14:45
ObKohm, i build it, using this manual: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch14:46
Stskeepsok14:46
Stskeepscould you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdevb14:46
Stskeepscould you do a rpm -q -a | grep fbdev14:46
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ObKoxorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-0.4.0-2.7.armv5tel14:47
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ObKohm14:47
Stskeepsyeah, you need to get regular fbdev14:47
Stskeepsdon't add the nokia closed repository in your .ks14:47
Stskeepswhen it's not for the n900 :)14:48
ObKook14:48
ObKonow repository packages are worked?14:48
ObKo*working14:48
Stskeepshmm?14:48
Stskeepsmore interestingly14:48
Stskeepshow did you get armv5tel fbdev-sgx?14:49
ObKothere was a problem at 29.07.10 with gcc14:49
Stskeepsarmv7 is still broken yes14:50
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StskeepsOMAP2 or OMAP3, out of curiousity?14:53
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ObKoOMAP343014:55
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Stskeepsk14:56
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Stskeepslo slaine15:05
slaineHey Stskeeps15:05
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vgrade_Stskeeps, I missed vlj, did he send his X log?15:08
Stskeepsno15:09
slaineworking from home on a bank holiday monday is so hard15:10
slainemy kids are down stairs watching starwars and everything.15:10
sivuanyone have experience on running obs under debian?15:10
Stskeepsslaine: laptop, watch starwars with them15:11
slainethat's not working though15:11
Stskeepsit's not?15:11
Stskeeps:P15:11
slaineI was actually doing that but ended up just watching the movie15:11
slaineso I came up to the bedroom15:11
ObKoStskeeps: thanks a lot, now X work good, another question: is there tslib in meego?15:13
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StskeepsObKo: use evdev instead if you can15:13
slaineObKo: I got my touchscreens working fine with evdev15:13
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ObKoI have a resistive touchscreen :(15:14
ObKoit needs a calibration...15:14
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Stskeepsstill, that's possible in evdev15:14
Stskeepswe do that in n900 i believe15:14
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slainevgrade: nice work on the gma500 stuff15:15
dm8tbrObKo: you got x working?15:15
ObKoYes!15:15
ObKomore in #openpma15:15
dm8tbrgreat news! \o/15:15
StskeepsObKo: ah, you're one of the archos guys15:15
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pundiramithow much is uxlaunch/mcompositor dependent on SGX? I'm not able to run uxlaunch on devkit8000(omap3 clone). I'm having some issues with SGX as well. Is that may be the reason of uxlaunch failure?15:28
pundiramitIf that is the case then can I launch mcompositor without SGX?15:29
Stskeepswww.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest15:30
vgrade_slaine, what are you running Joggler or netbook?15:30
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Stskeepsget that working in xorg (chmod +x it)15:30
slaineneither, I just track the gma500 as it's interesting (some of our suppliers use it too, but we couldn't due to the drivers issue)15:31
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vgrade_ok, I must admit I've had a lot of help from Stskeeps on this15:32
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pundiramitStskeeps: was that 'glestest' for me to try?15:33
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Stskeepspundiramit: yes15:34
Stskeeps.cc is source15:34
slainevgrade_: yeah, the joggle community :)15:34
pundiramitStskeeps: its working fine here15:34
vgrade_OBS bulding, repo creation, kickstart config all new to me15:34
Stskeepspundiramit: xorg started, export DISPLAY=:0; ./glestest ?15:35
pundiramityes i did all that and made 'glestest' working15:36
Stskeepspundiramit: okay15:36
pundiramitat some ~44fps15:36
Stskeepspundiramit: what repo are you pulling from?15:36
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pundiramitStskeeps: I pulled it from here http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/daily/handset/repos/armv7l/packages/15:38
Stskeepspundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5rel15:39
Stskeepspundiramit: ok, not gonna work. dbus is hosed. use armv5tel15:39
pundiramitStskeeps: also its a last month build.. I pulled it on 2010063015:40
pundiramitStskeeps: ok will try a new build today15:40
pundiramitfrom armv5tel15:40
Stskeepsok15:40
ChildOfGodI am trying to replace mutter on the netbook ux with my own compiled version, but it doesnt work.15:41
ChildOfGodThe mutter i built is 2.3 MB whereas the mutter in the netbook ux is some 650 kb15:41
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ChildOfGodon running the emulator in the SDK it gives a white backgroung15:42
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ChildOfGodbackground* instead of the splash screen.15:42
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ChildOfGodhow do i know how a particular binary was built? as in, with what args? i looked at the spec file in the src rpm as well. dint work.15:42
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ObKoHello! Does anybody know how to convert deprecated touchscreen calibration data (/etc/pointercal) to new evdev parameters (minX maxX minY maxY)?16:35
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ObKohow to run GUI in software rendering mode?16:42
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w00t_ObKo: export M_USE_SOFTWARE_RENDERING=1 if you're talking about handset16:45
w00t_ObKo: mcompositor doesn't do software rendering, Stskeeps might be helpful for what to do to get around that16:45
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ObKothanks16:46
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blinohi fcrozat \o/17:26
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jackhererhello17:27
jackhererI would like to compile meego handset day1 for my cortex-a8 based device17:28
jackherercan somebody point me in the right direction ?17:28
Stskeepsjackherer: omap3?17:28
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jackhererStskeeps: something like that yes17:29
jackhererI am wondering if it is possible to use the normal SDK17:29
jackhererI can't find the developer bit in the day1 area17:29
Stskeepsstart with the open n900 image, make it boot to console17:29
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Stskeepsthen you need to get gles2 working17:29
Stskeeps(3d accel)17:29
jackhererStskeeps: a) it wants me to enter my n900 imei (I don't want tio cope with licensing bs) b) I want to compile it on my computer.17:30
jackhererStskeeps: opengl is impossible on my device.17:30
Stskeepsjackherer: even opengl es?17:30
jackhererno hardware accerlation.17:30
Stskeepsthats an odd cortex a817:30
thiagoomap3 have HW acceleration17:31
thiagobut the drivers aren't free17:31
jackhererStskeeps: meego handset does not work without opengl ?17:31
Stskeepsjackherer: ok, first off, you will want to use the already compiled rpms, not rebuild manually17:31
Stskeepsjackherer: open n900 images doesnt require imei, they are on repo.meego.com17:32
thiagojackherer: no, opengl is required for MeeGo in any version17:32
jackhererthat sucks big time17:32
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Stskeepsjackherer: you can construct your own image using mic2 and a kickstart file17:32
jackhererthen I can forget it on my plat17:32
Stskeepsjackherer: software rendering exists but is bloody slow and buggy.17:33
X-FadeSoftware rendering might work, it is just a lot slower.17:33
jackherera real pity17:33
jackhererI have a fast ass machine :D17:33
thiagoyou have a fast OMAP3 without HW acceleration?17:33
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Stskeepsjackherer: could you reveal what SoC it is?17:34
jackhererStskeeps: what is mic2 ?17:34
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Stskeepsjackherer: image creator17:34
jackhererStskeeps: ok I would prefer that over the non legit download of n900 specific image then17:34
jackhererStskeeps: do you have some URI17:34
thiagoor are you trying on a non-OMAP3 Cortex-A8?17:34
lcukis meego resolution independent now?  will it happily build/run on something with less than 800*480?17:34
lcukie, if there was some other devices around which were otherwise capable17:35
Stskeepsjackherer: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.11.20100720.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/17:35
jackhererStskeeps: I prefer trying stuff out first. when I get it working I make small writeup how I got it running on the device etc. for now it is a cortex-a8 based device ..17:36
jackhererStskeeps: ok that looks better than 'please enter imei here'17:36
thiagothat's "please enter IMEI on IRC" :-P17:37
thiagoj/k17:37
X-Fadejackherer: If you look closely at that imei url, you'll notice that that is not meego.17:37
Stskeepsjackherer: this image requires you to put in your own /usr/lib/libEGL.so and /usr/libGLESv2.so, ui wont work without17:37
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jackhererStskeeps: ok I need an image that allows for software rendering17:38
Stskeepsjackherer: wait some weeks then for newer libmeegotouch to get merged.17:38
peb_jackherer: If you have something I can test, give it to me. I'm looking for a (detailed/easy) way to get meego on my N900 (as trial)17:38
X-Fadepeb_: That is already on the wiki?17:39
Stskeepspeb_: we are doing automated weekly releases starting this week.17:39
jackhererStskeeps: there is no way in hell I can get software rendering meego image now ?17:39
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peb_OStskeeps: OK, then I'll check (the wiki again) ... goofed on that, and try it this night. Daily builds sounds .. challenging in case of testing :-)17:40
Stskeepspeb_: weekly17:40
Stskeeps:P17:40
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peb_Stskeeps: sorry .. weekly is really fine. Flash on the weekend, test during the week ...17:41
Stskeepsjackherer: there is a way but it is ugly and i am on a mobile keyboard.17:41
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jackhererStskeeps: ok how about we sort it at different point ?17:42
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jackhererStskeeps: would appreaciate it a lot17:42
Stskeepsjackherer: wait some weeks for a updated libmeegotouch17:42
Stskeepsbest advice i can give17:42
jackhererI prefer trying out the ugly hack17:43
ObKoDoes meego go sleep every 5-10 min, or it's my hardware bug?17:44
Stskeepsjackherer: try to boot the open image first and come back afterwards.17:45
jackhererStskeeps: ok let's see. thanks17:45
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thiagoprobably got the SoC from someone or some company without the license for the GLES driver17:46
Stskeepsnot impossible17:46
Stskeepsi would vote ipad17:47
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thiagothat's not an A817:47
thiagothe iPad has an Apple A4 processor17:48
X-FadeIt is.17:48
tmztthiago: hah17:48
X-FadeWhich is a A8.17:48
tmztthiago: yeah, it's a cortex A8 core17:48
thiagoA4 is the SoC then?17:48
* thiago is confused17:48
tmztthiago: Apple doesn't have a processor17:48
tmztthiago: they have a Samsung designed chip they sell as the A417:48
thiagoA8 with SGX 535...17:49
thiagoit's like an OMAP3 but it's not from TI17:49
leinirtmzt: Which, of course, is just short for Apple M4GIC! ;)17:49
leinir(sorry, that exclamation mark should have been !!111eleventyone ;) )17:50
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GAN900tmzt, they have their own design and manufacturing house.18:03
GAN900tmzt, PA Semi18:03
tmztGAN900: they do, but that doesn't mean the where there in much force for the A4 chip in the iPad18:03
tmztthey will likely be in future18:04
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tmztthey also have another design team I think for a company acquired earlier18:04
tmztand teardowns have shown the chip to be basically the same as earlier Apple-branded Samsung processors18:04
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TSCHAKeeewhich samsung core is the A4 based on?18:05
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tmztTSCHAKeee: as far as memory map layout I don't know, I would guess similar to iPhone 3gs18:26
tmztif you look into iphonelinux for 4g or iPad (if they exist yet) that might tell you18:27
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StskeepsDawnFoster: welcome back from vacation!18:33
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thiagotmzt: 3GS is an OMAP3430, so it's easy :-)18:34
tmztnot it's not18:35
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tmztthat's misinformation18:35
tmztit's a samsung18:35
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DawnFosterStskeeps: Thanks! I feel relaxed & refreshed :)18:36
* thiago goes by what's on wikipedia18:36
DawnFosterStskeeps: Also, it's metrics time again whenever you get a chance to run the IRC metrics (no hurry).18:36
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tmztthiago: where?18:37
tmztthiago: there were early reports that it's TI but they are wrong18:37
tmztlater tear downs proved it18:37
thiagoI'm sure I found it on wikipedia, but I can't find it anymore18:37
thiagoprobably been corrected since I last found it18:37
DawnFosterOn another note, a quick reminder before all of the Europeans check out for the day: We have a community office meeting at 05:00 UTC tomorrow morning http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings#Next_CO_meeting18:37
microlithhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_3Gs#Models18:38
DawnFosterthat's tonight at 10pm for those of us here on the west coast of the US18:38
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StskeepsDawnFoster: will do when i have a moment tonight18:46
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DawnFosterStskeeps: cool - I probably won't get to the metrics until later this week, so no rush18:47
DawnFosterStskeeps: thanks!18:47
AnnagulHello18:47
b-man_Stskeeps: out of curiosity, how does meego get battery status on the n900? does it talk to bme?18:48
threezerob-man_, through contextkit which talks to bme18:48
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b-man_ah18:48
b-man_thanks threezero18:48
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AnnagulI have an issue with my Wifi networks. There is no wifi networks available in the connman tab18:49
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b-man_threezero: i'm assuming that the context interface for bme is closed?18:50
AnnagulWhere do I can start to look?18:50
threezerob-man_, yeah18:50
b-man_gah18:50
slaineAnnagul: what wifi card do you have ?18:50
threezerob-man_, the interface to contextkit isn't closed though18:51
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threezeroso you *can* get battery status from contextkit18:51
Annagulslaine: atheros AR242x18:51
b-man_oh, ok :)18:51
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Annagulslaine: acer aspire one zg518:52
Annagulmodule (loaded) ath5k18:52
AnnagulI have searched in the -dev mailing list, but nobody has that problem18:53
slaineyeah, would have thought it would just work18:53
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slaineAnnagul: does ifconfig from a console, show the device ?18:54
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Annagulslaine: yes18:54
Annagulups, wait, no18:55
AnnagulI can see the device with a iwconfig18:55
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Annagulwith a "ifconfig wlan0 up" I received "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132"18:56
slaineAnnagul: don't know much connman really. Perhaps #connman might offer better help in diagnosing18:57
slaine(my broadcom is eth1, not wlan0)18:57
Annagulok, I will try in #connman18:57
Annagulthank you, anyway18:58
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StskeepsDawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.july.html19:54
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DawnFosterStskeeps: Great, thanks!19:58
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w00t_Stskeeps: hah @ the 30th19:59
DawnFosterCosmoHill: We I've been working since 6am (10am now) and I just made my 3rd pot of green tea :)20:00
CosmoHillthere's a 6am?20:01
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StskeepsDawnFoster: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.dev.july.html (#meego-dev, a latecomer) and http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/data/irssistats.arm.july.html (#meego-arm)20:02
Stskeepsvery obvious when it's weekend there..20:03
Stskeeps:P20:03
CosmoHillStskeeps: that data (for #meego) shows that me being at uni has an affect :)20:03
CosmoHillSince you're not top :p20:03
CosmoHillMost uses words almost makes a sentence20:04
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Stskeepsi think it's very saying that the top# 13 word on #meego-arm is connman20:06
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CosmoHillwhat's connman?20:07
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w00t_CosmoHill: depending on who you ask, a connection manager, or annoying20:09
w00t_:-P20:09
CosmoHillhehe20:10
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CosmoHillDoes Arjan from this channel do PowerTop?20:12
Stskeepsthink so20:12
w00t_^20:12
w00t_pretty sure that is the case, yes20:12
CosmoHillwe need to get him some cookies20:12
CosmoHillhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODQ2OQ20:12
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thiagoCosmoHill: yes, that's him20:13
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CosmoHill(I show my appreciation by give people cyber cookies or hugs)20:13
thiagowhich reminds me I need to upgrade my powertop20:13
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CosmoHillIt's nice to read an article and go "hey, I know him!"20:14
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CosmoHillwhy does the powertop that came out today say Copyright Intel 2007?20:16
Stskeepsi never understood the range part of copyrights20:16
Stskeepsis it like 'earliest code is from X and latest is from Y'?20:16
thiagoprobably forgot to update20:17
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CosmoHilldoesn't work on my server20:22
CosmoHillyay20:22
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CosmoHillrequires the kernel to be reconfigured :)20:22
thiagodoesn't really matter on servers...20:22
CosmoHillhush you20:23
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GAN900Stskeeps, usually.20:27
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Stskeepsgitorious's merge requests kinda suck compared to launchpad ability, heh20:33
Stskeepsa lot of manual work instead of a nice button to 'yes, merge this'20:33
thiagoyeah, we know20:34
mikhasthe worst part being that everyone complains about missing gitorious features (or lame MR's) but what does the gitorious crew focus on? making it more "shiny"20:34
mikhasperhaps it's time to ditch gitorious and move back to github20:34
thiagoit's not "back" since it was never in github20:35
thiagoand the gitorious crew is being paid to work on our features20:36
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thiagoso they're not working on shiny, they're working on what we ask them to20:37
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Stskeepsi swear, not having that one button adds at least 15 mins of work per merge :P20:37
* CosmoHill noms pizza20:37
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mikhasStskeeps, if only20:40
mikhasyou need to keep your MR's up-to-date sometimes20:41
mikhasno fancy github repo tracking20:41
mikhaserr, fork tracking, I mean20:41
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thiagofor Qt, we don't want a "Merge this" button20:43
thiagomerging requires Legal check, build test and regression check20:44
thiagoGitorious can't do that20:44
Stskeepsmakes sense20:44
Stskeepsa scriptable gitorious would be nice20:44
mikhasthiago, you could simply have two repos20:45
mikhasand one project alone should not defer the productivity of all others20:45
thiagono, but the point is that we're paying them to do other features first20:46
thiagowe're not paying them for a feature we don't need20:46
Stskeepsthiago: well, you could technically throw a bot at the merge request branch and test it20:46
thiagoStskeeps: waste of CPU cycles. It needs to be tested as it's integrated.20:46
mikhasthat's why moving away from gitorious might be a good option20:46
mikhasit'll take ages until they come around implementing stuff normal users want20:46
mikhasyou block them =p20:47
thiagolike line-by-line reviewing?20:47
thiagolike fine-grained notifications?20:47
Stskeepsi'd just go for notifications in general20:47
Stskeeps:P20:47
mikhasor I just go to github, which had useful notifcations from the beginning20:47
thiagothere are notifications already20:47
thiagoit's just too much noise20:47
thiagomikhas: well, someone implemented the notifications at one point20:47
thiagoI still prefer Gitorious because it's open source20:48
mikhasall I am saying is that gitorious does not seem to move fast enough. if someone is even paying money (to make them move faster or slower? =D), and things still dont improve ...20:48
thiagothat is true20:49
thiagothe company behind gitorious is much smaller than the one behind github20:49
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aukeis gitorious still down?21:04
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Stskeepsworks for me?21:05
aukeok, I didn't check today yet21:05
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lcukif i have moblin installed on a netbook somewhere, can it be upgraded to meego or does it need a format/rebuild?21:49
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wesbluemarineis it possible to have meego on a pc with an nvidia ion?22:40
CosmoHillnope22:41
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wesbluemarine:(22:42
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CosmoHillMeego doesn't support Nvidia yet22:43
wesbluemarine:(22:44
wesbluemarinebut22:45
wesbluemarinemeego has fedora packages right?22:45
aukeno22:45
thiagono22:45
aukeno no no22:45
wesbluemarine:\22:45
aukemeego has rpm's22:45
thiagoMeeGo has MeeGo packages22:45
aukemeego rpms22:45
wesbluemarineah ok22:45
wesbluemarineok ok i 've understood22:45
aukerepeat after me: MeeGo is not a Fedora derivative22:45
wesbluemarine:D22:45
thiagoMeeGo is not a Fedora derivative22:46
thiago:-)22:46
wesbluemarinei want a nice tablet with meegi22:46
aukethiago: w00t22:46
aukewesbluemarine: me too22:46
lbtis    0.6.1 < 0.6.1-proposed1  < 0.6.2 (deb) and 0.6.1 < 0.6.2.proposed1 < 0.6.2 (rpm)22:46
aukethe closest thing you can get right now is something like the lenovo s10-3t22:46
aukelbt: I'd think that 0.6.1-proposed1 < 0.6.122:47
lbtin deb?22:47
aukebut, not sure how (deb) does that22:47
aukeno idea22:47
lbtI'm trying to package some libs for suse and debian...22:47
lbtwe need to sort this for the tools which we need to distribute22:48
lbtah well22:48
* lbt goes to play with something easy like Xen22:48
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UlfHofemeierHi23:03
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lcukquim seems to be having a bit of an uphill struggle getting meego on his netbook :( http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=6389#post638923:17
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vgradehttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/02/nokias-treatment-of-meego-smartphone-ui-revealed/23:49
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threezerovgrade, wow, looks good23:55
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lcuki asked earlier, is there a minimum resolution for meego - or will the user be able to choose a lower resolution (but faster..) screen/device to have it installed on?23:56
threezerosee, this is why i think we need sep chans for the verticals23:57
lcukhmm?23:57
threezeroi don't know how to answer this question because I don't know if you are referring to handset, netbook, x, y or z23:57
threezero;)23:57
lcukany23:58
lcukall23:58
lcukdoesnt matter23:58
threezerosure it does23:58
lcuklower the resolution, improve the performance23:58
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lcuktheres been talk from the start that meego will not run in software emulated 3d23:58
lcukbut there has to be a breakpoint23:58
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lcukworks for atom or arm or any cpu23:59
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