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| DawnFoster | and I'm back. | 00:53 |
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| CosmoHill | can I be front? | 00:58 |
| ge3 | hi everybody | 00:58 |
| DawnFoster | ha. I made it the whole 5k without walking and it didn't kill me | 00:59 |
| CosmoHill | DawnFoster: I went out for a bike ride yesterday and did almost 10km longer than I expected cos I took a wrong turn | 01:00 |
| DawnFoster | it's good for you - builds character :) | 01:00 |
| CosmoHill | I had GPS on my phone running and it says I did 70Km/h :o | 01:00 |
| ceolin | ls | 01:02 |
| ceolin | sorry :) | 01:02 |
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| CosmoHill | I went from the riverside to the highest point in the county | 01:02 |
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| ge3 | hey i have some questions about meego system is there anybody that can answer ? :$ | 01:17 |
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| DawnFoster | ge3: what kinds of questions | 01:20 |
| DawnFoster | ? | 01:20 |
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| ge3 | questions about meego update cycle, i read the wiki bvut im still a little confused | 01:20 |
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| CosmoHill | "it's done when it's done" ? | 01:22 |
| DawnFoster | you read this page: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Release_Creation | 01:22 |
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| DawnFoster | the short answer is that we'll do big releases about every 6 months. Smaller weekly releases with bug fixes and nightly builds for developers | 01:23 |
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| ge3 | yes this is the page i read | 01:24 |
| DawnFoster | we're still in the process of getting out the first wave of 1.0 releases - Netbook was May 26 and Handset should be later this month | 01:24 |
| ge3 | oooh okay thanks for ur answer so next public update is in around 6 month | 01:24 |
| ge3 | unless u want to help by finding bugs or u are a dev | 01:24 |
| DawnFoster | we should have more details about the releases in the next couple of weeks as we further refine the process | 01:24 |
| DawnFoster | ge3 - yeah, that's about right | 01:25 |
| ge3 | i dont have programming skills but i like this project and i would like to invest a little bit | 01:26 |
| ge3 | can i install a second meego sysytem on antoher partition just for testing and bugs without conflicts or problems ? | 01:27 |
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| jperez26 | so...anyone got an idea when a viable test version of meego for n8x0 will be ready? | 01:32 |
| jperez26 | i'd love to get my hands on it for testing | 01:33 |
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| trem | nite all, sweet dreams | 01:36 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 02:10 |
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| hcl2 | is there any support to boot the usb image from a grub installation? i've booted puppy linux from grub into their syslinux based boot. my system can't to boot from usb, but grub can | 02:28 |
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| szymon_g | hi | 02:45 |
| hcl2 | okay, i changed CDLABEL to UUID and added the uuid of my stick | 02:46 |
| hcl2 | but, x is crashing over and over with ati and fbdev errors | 02:46 |
| szymon_g | anyone tried to install/run/use meego on Nokia n810 :? | 02:46 |
| jperez26 | it's not ready for the n8x0 | 02:48 |
| jperez26 | just gotta be patient | 02:48 |
| szymon_g | :| | 02:48 |
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| hcl2 | hmm, seems to only have i810 video drivers, not even fbdev or anything for x11 | 02:56 |
| hcl2 | good thing i didn't blow away my usb stick | 02:56 |
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| hcl2 | whatis the name of meego's window manager? | 03:28 |
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| TSCHAKeee2 | the netbook UX uses mutter, with plugins | 03:29 |
| TSCHAKeee2 | other UX's will use other solutions. | 03:29 |
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| hcl2 | is there a stated reason why xorg doesn't have radeon or nv drivers available on netbook distro? | 03:39 |
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| szymon_g | bye | 03:47 |
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| Tm_T | good morning all | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:29 |
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| BT | Hi, I have sucessfully compiled QT and ported on beagleboard on top of Meego | 14:39 |
| BT | But I alooking for some info on xfce or some window manager that can be installed or can be used to make the rootfs | 14:40 |
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| BT | looking for some info on window manager that can be used on beagleboard. | 14:52 |
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| slaine | BT, #meego-arm might have some answers ? | 15:08 |
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| Tina- | hi hi :) | 15:27 |
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| Tina- | i would like to install some apps how i do that (i'm not familiar with rpm / yum , using gentoo for like 8-9 years) | 15:28 |
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| Tina- | but i rather want to know more about the 'shell + panel' , would be nice if i could built it on my gentoo partition | 15:28 |
| Tina- | i found some gitorious page , but dunno what sources are needed for the panel | 15:29 |
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| Tina- | an other question i want to rebuild the kernel and add ext4 support but make gives me an error :/ | 15:31 |
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| slaine | Tina-: the UX is comprised of mutter window manager, the mutter-moblin project, which provides a plugin to mutter that manages window show/hide etc. and also owns the toolbar. The other apps then register with mutter-moblin via dbus and the toolbar in mutter-mobin manages them. If I read the source code correctly that is :) | 15:32 |
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| Tina- | ty slaine i'll have a look at mutter-moblin project | 15:33 |
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| Tina- | slaine: can you add other repositories? (to get more apps) like i want irssi | 15:34 |
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| slaine | There are no other repos | 15:34 |
| slaine | don't make the mistake of assuming that because it's rpm based, fedora packages will install | 15:34 |
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| * thiago never installs fedora packages on his non-fedora distro | 15:35 | |
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| Tina- | about the kernel , why is the arch set to pentium-m and not atom? | 15:38 |
| Tina- | /arch/cpu set | 15:38 |
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| Tina- | btw any good reason why ext4 aint supported (bummer for me as 90% of all my data is ext4) | 15:40 |
| slaine | thiago: you'd be surprised how many people do | 15:40 |
| thiago | slaine: actually, I'm not. Lots of people ask that question in #mandriva | 15:41 |
| slaine | next to the cpu arch issues, it's the second most common question or plea for help :) | 15:41 |
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| slaine | thiago: sigh | 15:41 |
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| Stskeeps | morn sjgadsby | 15:42 |
| sjgadsby | Good morning, Stskeeps. | 15:42 |
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| Tina- | think i'll cp some of my gentoo kernel sources to meego and compile that kernel from a chroot in my gentoo | 15:55 |
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| hcl2 | where is the source code for the Xorg that is bundled with the downloadable images? | 15:58 |
| slaine | repo.meego.com | 15:58 |
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| lbt_ | anaZ: ping | 18:09 |
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| GAN900 | w00t_, as a general response, I'm address Nokia and its actions as a company. | 19:54 |
| RST38h | You are address? | 19:54 |
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| GAN900 | w00t_, which is where the negative tone in Texrat's post comes from. | 19:54 |
| GAN900 | RST38h, yeah, yeah. | 19:55 |
| * RST38h dereferences GAN900 | 19:56 | |
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| w00t_ | GAN900: don't take it too harshly, I think my own *reply* came off a bit more angry than I intended | 19:58 |
| w00t_ | FatalSaint: ping | 20:01 |
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| GAN900 | w00t_, well, I just wanted to clarify on the source of the negativity. | 20:05 |
| GAN900 | w00t_, I agree with your points, I'm just so tired of Nokia doing nearly everything they can to make things fail. | 20:06 |
| w00t_ | GAN900: I still do think it's a bit early *yet*.. certainly not the time for unbridled hope and optimism and fluffy kittens yet, but not the time for panning it either | 20:06 |
| RST38h | They do not care. They do not have to. They are the Phone Company. | 20:06 |
| * GAN900 doesn't know how he ended up in #meego. | 20:06 | |
| w00t_ | oh, yes | 20:06 |
| w00t_ | we should be on #maemo | 20:06 |
| * w00t_ switches | 20:07 | |
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| n0greenfx | hey i neeed some help im running ubuntu and trying to get the meego image onto usb but im not sure how the wiki directions use terminal and it seems to be confusing me | 20:18 |
| n0greenfx | are there any gui apps i can us | 20:18 |
| CosmoHill | iirc there was something about a gui app on ubuntu | 20:20 |
| n0greenfx | on the wiki? | 20:20 |
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| CosmoHill | hmm maybe not | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | i thought ubuntu had a program for writing images to USB | 20:22 |
| n0greenfx | havent foound one yet | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | I could guide you through the terminal if you want | 20:23 |
| n0greenfx | ok | 20:23 |
| n0greenfx | the .img is on my desktop | 20:23 |
| CosmoHill | unplug your memory stick if it is and open the terminal | 20:24 |
| n0greenfx | k | 20:24 |
| n0greenfx | done | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | type "ls /dev/sd*" and it should return letters like sda sdb etc, it doesn't matter what the numbers after them are | 20:25 |
| n0greenfx | no such directory | 20:25 |
| n0greenfx | wait | 20:26 |
| n0greenfx | forgot the * | 20:26 |
| CosmoHill | it's a lowercase L | 20:26 |
| n0greenfx | output is /dev/sda | 20:26 |
| n0greenfx | all the way to de/sda5 | 20:26 |
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| CosmoHill | okay plug in your memory stick and wait for it to stop flashing | 20:28 |
| n0greenfx | ok | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | then type the above command in again | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | there should be a new drive called /dev/sdb* | 20:29 |
| n0greenfx | yep no * tho | 20:29 |
| n0greenfx | i have dev/sdb and dev/sdb1 | 20:29 |
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| CosmoHill | this will be the memory stick you've just plugged in | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | where did you save your image? | 20:30 |
| n0greenfx | desktop | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | cd ~/Desktop | 20:30 |
| n0greenfx | k | 20:30 |
| CosmoHill | type "ls *.img" and see if you can see the meego image | 20:30 |
| n0greenfx | yep i can | 20:31 |
| CosmoHill | good | 20:31 |
| CosmoHill | now the following bit will remove all your data on the memory stick | 20:31 |
| n0greenfx | theres none on it so thts fine | 20:31 |
| CosmoHill | so type carefully | 20:31 |
| CosmoHill | also i'll teach you about tab complete quickly, unless you already know it? | 20:32 |
| n0greenfx | i know it | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | good | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | use it on the meego image | 20:32 |
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| n0greenfx | ok | 20:32 |
| CosmoHill | now type the following command where meego.img is the full name of your meego image | 20:32 |
| n0greenfx | yep | 20:32 |
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| CosmoHill | "dd if=meego.img of=/dev/sdb" << /dev/sdb is the drive you will save the image too | 20:33 |
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| CosmoHill | if you type "sda" you'll have a lot of problems | 20:33 |
| n0greenfx | ok | 20:33 |
| CosmoHill | now just wait until your memory stick stops flashing, took me about 20 minutes I think on my memory card | 20:34 |
| n0greenfx | permisssion denied | 20:34 |
| n0greenfx | dd: opening `/dev/sdb': Permission denied | 20:34 |
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| n0greenfx | ill try a different usb | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | oh no wait | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | sorry my mistake | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | "sudo dd if=meego.img of=/dev/sdb" | 20:36 |
| n0greenfx | aa | 20:36 |
| n0greenfx | ok | 20:36 |
| CosmoHill | I forgot about sudo, it runs the command as the root user | 20:36 |
| n0greenfx | ok its running i think | 20:37 |
| n0greenfx | i got no error or anything | 20:37 |
| n0greenfx | how is meego on a netbook | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | I've not been able to run it unfortunately | 20:38 |
| n0greenfx | that sucks | 20:39 |
| n0greenfx | i just got an aspire one so ii figuered id try it out | 20:39 |
| n0greenfx | tried jolicloud and wasnt a big fan | 20:40 |
| n0greenfx | real buggy | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | I had a quick look at some netbooks today and decided not to get one | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | a lot of money for something I probably won't use | 20:40 |
| n0greenfx | yea agreed i got it as a gift | 20:40 |
| n0greenfx | i could never actually do any work on one | 20:41 |
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| IanSun | jdjd | 20:45 |
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| CosmoHill | would you like some coke with your JD? | 20:46 |
| CosmoHill | I guess not | 20:46 |
| n0greenfx | lol | 20:46 |
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| IanSun | hi | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | better than 'jdjd' :) | 20:57 |
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| CosmoHill | do you think we can get a sentence out of him? | 21:06 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, grass pollen season, how i love thee | 21:27 |
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| CosmoHill | I can get 7 branded ones for £4.50 | 21:30 |
| CosmoHill | or 30 unbranded ones for £4 | 21:30 |
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