| GeneralAntilles | Wee, useless meeting. | 00:00 |
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| javispedro | what, has it just ended now? | 00:12 |
| javispedro | :) | 00:12 |
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| Stskeeps | DawnFoster: btw, i think it would be good to publish the url of the minutes to mailing list and/or forum so people who cannot participate get notified | 00:15 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps++ | 00:15 |
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| javispedro | (presumably also put it visibly, on the topic, while on a meeting) | 00:15 |
| DawnFoster | stskeeps good idea - can I start with the next one? This was a little chaotic :) | 00:16 |
| DawnFoster | I'm kidding | 00:16 |
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| DawnFoster | we'll post it | 00:16 |
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| Stskeeps | sounds good :) | 00:17 |
| DawnFoster | btw, you can always find the minutes by visiting the tsg page: http://wiki.meego.com/Technical_Steering_Group_meetings | 00:17 |
| DawnFoster | but it doesn't notify you, which is stskeeps point | 00:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah - except it refers to the generic log url, which intermixes with all meetings held | 00:17 |
| DawnFoster | we're working on a better page for that - just haven't finished it | 00:18 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: just suggestions not criticism :) | 00:18 |
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| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 00:18 |
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| DawnFoster | it's an excellent suggestion :) | 00:18 |
| DawnFoster | actually, we could build a page on the wiki for TSG Meeting Minutes, instead of the main drupal site. | 00:20 |
| DawnFoster | anyone want to have a go at it? | 00:20 |
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| excid3 | when i boot meego on my asus 1000ha, it drops me to terminal, how can i get it to load the GUI? | 00:37 |
| thiago_home | what GUI? | 00:37 |
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| excid3 | well, it looked like it was loading a window manager | 00:39 |
| excid3 | does it not have one? | 00:39 |
| thiago_home | it did, twm | 00:39 |
| thiago_home | this is an early developer release | 00:39 |
| thiago_home | there is no GUI | 00:39 |
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| thiago_home | there's just an xterm, for you to run whichever commands and further programs you mway want to | 00:40 |
| excid3 | oh ok, i was just wanting to check it out, was looking at some of the GSoC applications | 00:40 |
| excid3 | and one was integrating Ubuntu One/Dropbox into MeeGo | 00:40 |
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| thiago_home | that may be enough for you already | 00:40 |
| excid3 | the project mentioned gnome integration | 00:41 |
| excid3 | so i wasnt sure | 00:41 |
| thiago_home | MeeGo doesn't have GNOME (or KDE) | 00:41 |
| thiago_home | it contains some projects that started in GNOME, though | 00:41 |
| excid3 | yeah | 00:42 |
| TSCHAKeee | gnome and kde aren't the main focus of meego | 00:42 |
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| excid3 | i wasnt sure what the goal of this project would be | 00:42 |
| thiago_home | not desktop, that's for sure | 00:42 |
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| TSCHAKeee | excid3: yes, don't treat this as a desktop. it isn't. not gonna be. | 00:43 |
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| excid3 | ok, so...would you guys have any idea on what they are looking for if the project would be to integrate dropbox/ubuntu one into meego? I'm kind of lost now | 00:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DawnFoster, something like: http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting | 00:45 |
| DawnFoster | GeneralAntilles, yeah something like that would work. | 00:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | and hopefully have them hosted on meego.com | 00:46 |
| lbt | So where's the forum/email integration then? | 00:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Going offsite for logs is a bit strange. | 00:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | lbt, presumably it's being worked on. | 00:46 |
| DawnFoster | yeah - we want to pull those onto meego.com | 00:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | lbt, although from the sounds of things it's actually, "Kill the mailing list, use the forums." | 00:47 |
| DawnFoster | and not have them externally hosted. | 00:47 |
| lbt | GeneralAntilles: yeah - I heard that | 00:47 |
| DawnFoster | we need to figure out the email integration if that's going to work. | 00:47 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: can you confirm that you won't move to the forums until it's "inclusive" | 00:48 |
| DawnFoster | and it's only for the community forum | 00:48 |
| DawnFoster | not core dev / SDK - those stay as mailing lists. | 00:48 |
| lbt | yeah, we developers are part of the community too | 00:48 |
| lbt | those of us who hack into the night | 00:48 |
| thiago_home | our marketing people has wanted to move us to forums instead of MLs for years | 00:48 |
| lbt | really don't like being told we're being ignored | 00:48 |
| DawnFoster | the main developer stuff stays as mailing lists | 00:48 |
| thiago_home | they don't understand how useful/easy MLs are for people with good MUAs | 00:48 |
| lbt | We *want* to interact with users | 00:49 |
| lbt | we need to | 00:49 |
| DawnFoster | users aren't comfortable with mailing lists | 00:49 |
| DawnFoster | you won't get solid user participation on mailing lists | 00:49 |
| lbt | I'm not saying move them to forums | 00:49 |
| lbt | I'm saying that a forum post generates a mailing list post | 00:50 |
| DawnFoster | which is why we need to get mail integration figured out | 00:50 |
| lbt | and vice-versa | 00:50 |
| lbt | yes | 00:50 |
| auke | DawnFoster: it's also hard to get developers to participate in forums :) | 00:50 |
| DawnFoster | I know | 00:50 |
| lbt | but somehow it's not high priority | 00:50 |
| lbt | and that's bad | 00:50 |
| lbt | we *HAVE* to make it high priority (for the forum mgmt) | 00:50 |
| DawnFoster | we're trying to get this figured out | 00:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | DawnFoster, have you seen maemo-users? :P | 00:50 |
| DawnFoster | productive suggestions for how to fix it will be the most help right now | 00:51 |
| lbt | use what works on t.m.o | 00:51 |
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| lbt | DawnFoster: you have read the forum wiki page ;) | 00:51 |
| DawnFoster | We're trying to get everything to work together - SSO, forums, Drupal, etc. You guys know this ins't a trivial task. | 00:52 |
| lbt | I'd think that "allow everyone to talk together" is more important than many other features, colour schemes etc | 00:52 |
| lbt | ah yes, DawnFoster : http://wiki.meego.com/Forum_/_Talk | 00:53 |
| lbt | see the second line in the table | 00:53 |
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| lbt | link to : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28924 | 00:54 |
| lbt | which is the implementation I had hoped for on "day zero" | 00:54 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: well, you asked for productive suggestions ;) | 00:55 |
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| DawnFoster | thank you - but they will get lost in IRC, and I don't do the forum config, Reggie does. | 00:56 |
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| DawnFoster | I suggest talking to Reggie about it | 00:57 |
| lbt | DawnFoster: it's on the wiki page... | 00:57 |
| lbt | I don't see how it can get lost | 00:57 |
| lbt | not heeded.... yes | 00:57 |
| DawnFoster | I still recommend talking to Reggie | 00:57 |
| lbt | OK | 00:57 |
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| bef0rd | hello | 01:03 |
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| lbt | Jaffa: ping.... I've had enough of this lack of attention on the forum/email thing... | 01:17 |
| Jaffa | lbt: Indeed. Just saw your email. | 01:17 |
| * Jaffa thinks he has a problem with his email system though: ones I send never get read; otherwise *surely* the people would reply? | 01:18 | |
| GAN900 | Bat signal! | 01:18 |
| GAN900 | Jaffa, ehehe | 01:18 |
| bef0rd | I was just creating a meego vmware image, but it doesn't seems to boot :/ | 01:19 |
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| lbt | night all | 01:39 |
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| _Sky_ | bef0rd: try to replacing the kernel http://www.sundtek.de/meego/index.txt | 01:46 |
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| _Sky_ | it's an ubuntu kernel but i ported also the correct kernel to x86 , but i'm still waiting for CosmoHill to upload it | 01:47 |
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| arjan | is there something wrong with the meego kernel ? | 01:49 |
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| javispedro | it's not overclocked enough >:) | 01:51 |
| * thiago_home used to build his own kernel just because he could | 01:52 | |
| thiago_home | that was in the 90s, though | 01:53 |
| arjan | for a while I used to build my own kernels as well | 01:53 |
| arjan | but that was because my kernel was the RHL/Fedora kernel ;-) | 01:53 |
| thiago_home | small difference :-P | 01:53 |
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| aaa_ | hello | 09:37 |
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| aaa_ | Why MeeGo? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | why not? | 09:37 |
| aaa_ | Say I have an Atom based platform. | 09:37 |
| aaa_ | Why use MeeGo and not, e.g. another Linux distro? | 09:38 |
| thiago_home | which other? | 09:38 |
| aaa_ | Well, Atom is x86 compatible, so basically any other, e.g. ubuntu | 09:38 |
| thiago_home | what kind of device are you looking at? | 09:39 |
| thiago_home | a TV? | 09:39 |
| aaa_ | Nettop | 09:39 |
| thiago_home | or is it a slate (like the iPad)? | 09:39 |
| thiago_home | netbook? | 09:39 |
| aaa_ | or Netbook | 09:39 |
| red | would you like to run ubuntu on your mobile phone for example? | 09:39 |
| thiago_home | does Ubuntu have UIs for small screens like a netbook? | 09:39 |
| red | it has the Netbook Remix version which isn't that shabby | 09:39 |
| thiago_home | if it does, you can use it | 09:40 |
| red | Jolicloud is similar and based on Ubuntu | 09:40 |
| thiago_home | but the point we're trying to make is that, besides netbooks, most other profiles have no place in other Linux distributions | 09:40 |
| thiago_home | do you agree? | 09:40 |
| red | but say you do have a MeeGo phone, it would be quite cool to run the same OS on a Netbook, especially if it had touch screen. | 09:40 |
| aaa_ | Only due to UI restriction? | 09:40 |
| thiago_home | not just UI, but also features | 09:40 |
| red | I would definately try it | 09:40 |
| aaa_ | Is MeeGo's advantage related mostly to UI issues (small / touch screens etc) | 09:41 |
| thiago_home | what is the package on Ubuntu that deals with phone calls? | 09:41 |
| red | If it had what i needed :) | 09:41 |
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| thiago_home | anyway, UI is not the only advantage | 09:42 |
| thiago_home | it's one big one, since most other distributions aren't doing touch UIs or UIs suited for small screens, or big far-away screens (like a TV) | 09:42 |
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| thiago_home | the infrastructure is another advantage, the collection of packages | 09:43 |
| thiago_home | the testing | 09:43 |
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| aaa_ | Interesting. | 09:44 |
| aaa_ | Well, let me ask it another way. | 09:44 |
| thiago_home | and anyway, what drives someone to choose a particular Linux distro? Ease of use and knowledge of it, normally. | 09:44 |
| thiago_home | oh, the possibility of app stores. Every company wants their piece of that cake. | 09:44 |
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| aaa_ | Say I have an embedded Atom based device, which does not require any UI, and I'm looking for a Linux distro. I'm more interested in OS latency, size, real-time etc. Is MeeGo a real option to consider or is that somewhat out of its scope? | 09:45 |
| thiago_home | I wouldn't know in that hypothetical device | 09:46 |
| thiago_home | you'd have to be a bit more real | 09:46 |
| aaa_ | This is real. | 09:47 |
| thiago_home | I mean details | 09:47 |
| thiago_home | MeeGo will probably run on devices with as little as 256 MB of storage and 256 MB of RAM | 09:47 |
| aaa_ | OK, that's good. | 09:48 |
| thiago_home | but if you are a company and you want to ship a device, I suggest you contact one of the companies behind MeeGo right now to see how they can help you | 09:48 |
| aaa_ | I am actually in touch with Intel, but I thought I'd get some more info here. Thank you for your help. | 09:49 |
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| thiago_home | yeah | 09:50 |
| thiago_home | but try it and try another | 09:50 |
| aaa_ | Thanks. I will. | 09:50 |
| thiago_home | see what pleases you better and what gives you the best long-term "deal" | 09:50 |
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| slaine | morning all | 11:37 |
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| EvilSpeaks | morning all, first time on IRC here (haven't used this thing (IRC) since university - some 10 year ago!!! | 11:47 |
| gladiac | woohoo :) | 11:48 |
| EvilSpeaks | bit quite? | 11:49 |
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| EvilSpeaks | anyone know what to type to get a help list? | 11:52 |
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| EvilSpeaks | tried /help but no luck | 11:53 |
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| till- | depends on your client i guess | 12:01 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: you about ? | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 12:56 |
| slaine | mind if I pm you ? | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | go ahead | 12:57 |
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| J_P | hi all | 14:36 |
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| tackat_ | http://nienhueser.de/blog/?p=95 < Maemo 'N Marble :-) | 15:15 |
| dneary | Hi all | 15:16 |
| dneary | slaine, Ping? | 15:16 |
| * CosmoHill pings slaine too | 15:16 | |
| slaine | Yo | 15:17 |
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| * CosmoHill needs to be | 15:17 | |
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| CosmoHill | my toshlink cable is here | 15:22 |
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| slaine | Hmmm, chocolate | 16:21 |
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| _Sky_ | hmm delicious | 16:24 |
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| postmanPechkin | hi) where can i get moblin sdk? | 16:58 |
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| CosmoHill | postmanPechkin: i think you can get Qt Creator for windows, mac and linux | 17:18 |
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| postmanPechkin | CosmoHill: i have Qt Creator, so i can develop for Moblin without Moblin sdk? | 17:57 |
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| CosmoHill | i don't know | 17:57 |
| CosmoHill | moblin doens't use Qt | 17:57 |
| CosmoHill | but Meego does | 17:57 |
| postmanPechkin | so the same question for meego) | 17:58 |
| koupsa | Moblin can use qt like other linux | 17:58 |
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| postmanPechkin | qt for linux x11? | 17:58 |
| lcuk | postmanPechkin, with the qt libraries (much like gtk libraries) you can create a desktop application for any of the supported principle platforms | 17:58 |
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| lcuk | however you may not get specific moblinisms or meegoisms or maemoisms until you wait for a specific devkit for that platform | 17:59 |
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| postmanPechkin | ) | 18:03 |
| CosmoHill | http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/owners-reviews/archive-review.aspx?review=8041&model=773&rid=1058&fuel=&transmission=&body= hmmm | 18:03 |
| postmanPechkin | thnks | 18:03 |
| koupsa | is http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/ia32/os down ? | 18:05 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 18:06 |
| koupsa | :/ oki thanks for confirm | 18:06 |
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| DawnFoster | We're moving some servers to OSU today. I think the repo is part of the move | 18:13 |
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| anaZ | there is a mirror at http://repo.moblin.org/MeeGo/, the repo server should come up once DNS changes have propagated | 18:14 |
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| koupsa | ok I wait to test my .ks file.. ??? will I change .ks file for new server ? | 18:15 |
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| anaZ | you can temporarily change… This mirror is kept up to date anyways :) | 18:16 |
| anaZ | s/meego.com/moblin.org/ | 18:16 |
| anaZ | should do it | 18:16 |
| anaZ | in your ks | 18:16 |
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| slaine | anaZ: Are the moblin.org repo's affected ? | 18:36 |
| anaZ | affected how? | 18:36 |
| slaine | I've a chap on #moblin having problems accessing any of the moblin repos | 18:37 |
| slaine | his english isn't great though so probably not explaining things great | 18:37 |
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| anaZ | ok, looking | 18:42 |
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| slaine | anaZ: I'm reinstalling moblin 2.1 for my netbook and will give it a shot shortly | 18:45 |
| drizztbsd | slaine: what about meego (aka moblin 2.2)/ | 18:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm. is IEGD actually freely redistributable? (but closed) | 18:47 |
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| arjan | Stskeeps: don't think it is | 18:48 |
| abogani | I'm wondering on what libc is used in Meego, anyone know it? | 18:48 |
| arjan | abogani: glibc 2.11 | 18:48 |
| arjan | Stskeeps: iegd is an embedded driver that's made for contract customers of the intel embedded group | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | arjan: because http://moblin.org/projects/2.1-ivi-project-releases says it is, which wonders me a bit | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | and other sources | 18:49 |
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| arjan | Stskeeps: that it may or may not work on non-embedded hardware .. pure accidental | 18:49 |
| arjan | abogani: do you happen to have any requests or features you'd like to see in glibc ? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | arjan: thanks for the answers | 18:50 |
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| slaine | drizztbsd: when there's something that runs I'll use it | 18:53 |
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| abogani | arjan: Thanks for answer. I'm a little disappointed of libc choice. I don't suppose that MeeGo follow Android road (which use a bsd derived libc) but at least I think that you should use eglibc at least. | 18:56 |
| CosmoHill | _Sky_: someone asked about putting the VDIs into the wiki | 18:56 |
| _Sky_ | hmm why not | 18:57 |
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| _Sky_ | but who should do that :P ? | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | i'm still curious what eglibc adds to the mix, excepting governance | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | eglibc > glibc :) | 18:58 |
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| thiago | abogani: besides eglibc, which is a recent fork of glibc, there aren't many options | 18:58 |
| thiago | the Android libc is crap. Really. | 18:58 |
| thiago | broken pthreads, bad support for other things. | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | would eglibc be used for both x86 and ARM? | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | it's insane to have glibc on x86 and eglibc on arm :/ | 18:59 |
| slaine | it is on some distros | 18:59 |
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| lcuk | every distro has *isms | 18:59 |
| slaine | uhuh | 18:59 |
| thiago | eglibc's main point is to get away from Ulrich Drepper | 18:59 |
| slaine | thats as I understood it | 19:00 |
| abogani | thiago: I know but as you already know sometimes _crappy_ software wins. | 19:00 |
| javispedro | poor guy, what has him done to you? ;) | 19:00 |
| thiago | abogani: I *really* don't want the Android libc | 19:00 |
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| thiago | abogani: that one needs a couple of years of development before it's serious | 19:00 |
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| CosmoHill | I thought arm would have used a smaller libc like ulibc | 19:00 |
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| thiago | CosmoHill: that's not necessary | 19:01 |
| thiago | the devices MeeGo is targetting can do a full glibc | 19:01 |
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| thiago | and apps benefit from the features | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | ah okay | 19:01 |
| Myrtti | I vote for cheesecake | 19:01 |
| thiago | and it's less porting work, when you take an app from the desktop | 19:01 |
| abogani | thiago: That require a lot of storage. | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | then using egibc and glbic makes no sense | 19:01 |
| CosmoHill | Myrtti: ++ | 19:01 |
| thiago | abogani: we've got plenty | 19:02 |
| DawnFoster | I'm with Myrtti on this one | 19:02 |
| DawnFoster | :) | 19:02 |
| CosmoHill | I had cheesecake for my birthday :) | 19:02 |
| thiago | it goes like this: Android libc < uclibc < (glibc == eglibc) | 19:02 |
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| CosmoHill | thiago: iirc CLFS moved from glibc to Eglibc because of the developers | 19:03 |
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| thiago | uclibc is established, so its limitations are know. Qt, for example, is known to work with it. (I don't know the rest of the Linux stack) | 19:03 |
| abogani | CosmoHill: Debian and Ubuntu will do the same. | 19:03 |
| thiago | the Android libc is a big unknown. It's not tested and it's not established. It would be a bad choice. | 19:03 |
| thiago | as for glibc and eglibc, they're sharing code. The difference is Ulrich Drepper. | 19:03 |
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| abogani | Agreed that Android libc isn't a right solution but glibc is *very* fat, continuously under development, use GPL license and it is very difficult to reduce in size | 19:05 |
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| Stskeeps | on the other hand, a device with 128mb ram should be able to take glibc.. | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:06 |
| thiago | abogani: you have two mistakes in your sentence. | 19:07 |
| CosmoHill | I've just found out what the E stands for in eglibc | 19:07 |
| thiago | abogani: factual mistakes | 19:07 |
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| thiago | also, you write "continuously under development" as a bad thing | 19:08 |
| thiago | care to explain how that could be bad? | 19:08 |
| CosmoHill | I think we should go with eglibc since we already use that on ARM | 19:08 |
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| CosmoHill | also using glibc might require some build changes to the RPM | 19:09 |
| lcuk | im genuinely surprised Qglibc doesnt exist | 19:09 |
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| javispedro | klibc does :) | 19:09 |
| * lcuk facepalms lol | 19:09 | |
| thiago | Maemo 5 and 6 use glibc | 19:09 |
| javispedro | is that a confirmation? | 19:09 |
| thiago | and the one on Fremantle is sitting here at 1106576 bytes in size | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | glibc_2.5.1-1eglibc23+0m5.tar.gz | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | (fremantle) | 19:10 |
| thiago | oh? | 19:10 |
| * thiago had never realised | 19:10 | |
| thiago | anyway, the ELF header is: | 19:10 |
| thiago | LOAD 0x000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x1168ec 0x1168ec R E 0x8000 | 19:10 |
| thiago | LOAD 0x1176f8 0x0011f6f8 0x0011f6f8 0x00229c 0x004abc RW 0x8000 | 19:10 |
| thiago | so 0x1168ec (1.1 MB) of sharable code | 19:11 |
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| thiago | and 19kB of non-sharable | 19:11 |
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| thiago | is that fat? | 19:12 |
| abogani | thiago: You are wrong: glibc require a *lot* of additional libraries. | 19:12 |
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| thiago | abogani: like? | 19:13 |
| javispedro | uh? | 19:13 |
| w00t_ | lol | 19:13 |
| thiago | name one. | 19:13 |
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| javispedro | seem weird a C library would require more libraries | 19:13 |
| javispedro | (other than lib"os" or the like) | 19:13 |
| CosmoHill | as far as i know any libc requires the kernel headers | 19:13 |
| thiago | btw, your other factual error was to say it's GPL | 19:13 |
| CosmoHill | that is it | 19:13 |
| thiago | it's not. It's LGPL. | 19:13 |
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| abogani | thiago: NSS Sir. for start. | 19:14 |
| CosmoHill | one moment | 19:14 |
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| thiago | well, yeah, it can *load* NSS modules | 19:15 |
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| CosmoHill | EGLIBC | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | Installation depends on: Bash, Binutils, Coreutils, Diffutils, Gawk, GCC, Gettext, Grep, Gzip, Make, Perl, Sed and Texinfo | 19:15 |
| thiago | but I would say that's an advantage, to be able to add new ones like the mdns lookup from Avahi | 19:15 |
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| CosmoHill | done of those are libraries | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | (well gzip is but how else would you unpack it?) | 19:16 |
| CosmoHill | none* | 19:16 |
| lcuk | does that mean you have to get RMS at your house to personally compile glibc? | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | no emacs in dependencies? | 19:16 |
| Myrtti | I can do with everything else, but RMS is too much | 19:16 |
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| slaine | anaZ: I can confirm the moblin repo problems | 19:17 |
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| lcuk | they tried removing him as a dependency, but could find no way to resolve his beard | 19:17 |
| anaZ | slaine: fixing that now | 19:17 |
| slaine | get a 403 when trying to get repomd.xml | 19:17 |
| slaine | anaZ: ah, cool | 19:18 |
| thiago | abogani: anyway, that also means the DNS resolver code (and libresolv) aren't loaded unless you do networking | 19:18 |
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| slaine | anaZ: and a 404 for the garage non-oss repo | 19:19 |
| CosmoHill | that reminds me, I installed Flash 10.1 RC yesterday | 19:20 |
| CosmoHill | It seems to run better than flash 10, uses less processing power | 19:20 |
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| slaine | it couldn't exactly use more now could it, seeing as it was already at 100% on most machines | 19:21 |
| CosmoHill | now it's around 70~80% | 19:22 |
| CosmoHill | i think | 19:22 |
| CosmoHill | youtube keeps you nice and warm in the winter :) | 19:22 |
| arjan | eglibc and glibc are the same code pretty much | 19:23 |
| arjan | eglibc has the explicit goal to be glibc compatible | 19:23 |
| arjan | so it pretty much has to be the same | 19:23 |
| arjan | so... what's the point? | 19:23 |
| arjan | (other than people not liking Ulrich and wanting to offend him) | 19:24 |
| javispedro | arguing over useless things gives the appearance of real work. | 19:24 |
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| arjan | Ah the Waldo principle | 19:25 |
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| Stskeeps | thiago: btw, does Qt work with OpenVG as only backend (no GLES) | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 19:25 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: yes, without GLES | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, interesting | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | i must try it out on my n8x0 | 19:25 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: I have no idea how it gets the context, but I'm assuming there's a way | 19:25 |
| CosmoHill | arjan: the developers listen better | 19:25 |
| thiago | does the N810 have VG hardware | 19:25 |
| thiago | ? | 19:25 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: did you got driver to work in OpenVG? I didn't :( | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: not sure, but i did test a demo once that worked, i think | 19:26 |
| thiago | arjan: it's not that people don't like Ulrich... | 19:26 |
| thiago | it's Ulrich that doesn't like anyone else | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: yes, MBX drivers got released some time back | 19:26 |
| CosmoHill | I've been told that the glibc developers are kinda stubbon and won't listen to outsiders with regards to faults or patches | 19:26 |
| thiago | CosmoHill: that's him | 19:26 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: oh, interesting. I would guess it has same problems as the gl libraries though :P | 19:26 |
| CosmoHill | there's only one developer? | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: well, if it will be rendering into a buffer anyway..? | 19:27 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: that's not what I asked. I asked if it has *hardware*. | 19:27 |
| thiago | Stskeeps: having the userspace code only means you can make VG calls. That doesn't mean those calls are HW-accelerated. | 19:27 |
| javispedro | thiago: well, it has an MBX. Wherever that actually accelerates VG or not, dunno | 19:27 |
| thiago | they could be emulated through GLES or rasterised. | 19:27 |
| CosmoHill | meego is meant to be the same on ARM and x86 so why use different libc? | 19:28 |
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| thiago | it shouldn't use different libc, unless there's a good reason why one is better on one platform and the other isn't. | 19:29 |
| arjan | thiago: interestingly I can work with Ulrich just fine | 19:29 |
| arjan | he's just german, and need to work with him european style | 19:29 |
| arjan | CosmoHill: how is 'developers listen better' useful if it's the same code anyway in the end | 19:29 |
| slaine | anaZ: can you give me a nod when you think it's sorted so I can try ? | 19:29 |
| slaine | Fresh moblin 2.1 install so need some updates before I can install my wl-kmod drivers | 19:30 |
| CosmoHill | when we used glibc we had to apply patches to it to fix things or get it to compile correctly | 19:30 |
| CosmoHill | with eglibc we don't | 19:30 |
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| slaine | CosmoHill: "we" being ?? | 19:30 |
| CosmoHill | CLFS | 19:30 |
| slaine | right | 19:30 |
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| anaZ | slaine: will do | 19:31 |
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| abogani | CosmoHill: CLFS == Cross Linux From Scratch? | 19:32 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 19:32 |
| abogani | CosmoHill: Thanks and sorry for (my) ignorance. | 19:32 |
| suihkulokki | arjan: "european style" ... | 19:32 |
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| CosmoHill | abogani: tbh I'm a little surprised you know that | 19:33 |
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| slaine | anaZ: cheers | 19:35 |
| slaine | CosmoHill: google's great ;) | 19:35 |
| suihkulokki | you can't just bundle all of europe together.. and communication styles vary more between people inside countries than over borders | 19:36 |
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| CosmoHill | ! game.cpp | 19:39 |
| CosmoHill | hehe, it's like SVN is shocked that a file has been deleted | 19:39 |
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| suihkulokki | arjan: the main reason for using eglibc in maemo is that it comes as part of codesourcery toolchains. and thus features early access to target specific optimisations. | 19:48 |
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| koupsa | meego 1.0 became meego 0.9 | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | first release will be meego -1.0 | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | (as in minus 1) | 19:51 |
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| javispedro | I will whoever removes sunrpc routines from eglibc. You have been warned! | 19:52 |
| javispedro | *kill ;P | 19:52 |
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| Blessy | helo | 19:54 |
| CosmoHill | hey ble | 19:54 |
| CosmoHill | hey Blessy* | 19:54 |
| koupsa | Stskeeps, I've just made a .ks meego iso and name is meego-0.90-meego-netbook-core-201004081753.iso... yesterday it was 1.0 | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:55 |
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| CosmoHill | I think a few people would like it if the meego kernel supported virtualbox | 19:56 |
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| Stskeeps | it does though, if on a device that would support it anyway, doesn't it? | 19:57 |
| CosmoHill | if meego would run natively on the host then it would run in a VM | 19:57 |
| koupsa | CosmoHill, +1 | 19:57 |
| CosmoHill | but if it doesn't you can't test it at all | 19:58 |
| CosmoHill | _sky_ make a vdi with a new kernel where the processor was set as an i586 instead of a pentium M | 19:58 |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: actually no, | 19:59 |
| CosmoHill | I can run moblin on my laptop but when I tried meego in a VM it hung | 19:59 |
| Stskeeps | hm | 19:59 |
| koupsa | me tooo | 19:59 |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: you can try his vdi if you'd like | 20:01 |
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| CosmoHill | wb | 20:02 |
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| b-man|laptop | jogglerspedro: LOL | 20:12 |
| b-man|laptop | oh | 20:12 |
| b-man|laptop | he left :P | 20:12 |
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| koupsaa | nice screen on 'firsboot' meego :) | 20:15 |
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| Stskeeps | xterm eh | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:16 |
| koupsaa | i like the little logo guy's. Have they a name? Meegoers? | 20:16 |
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| thiago_home | "dudes" | 20:17 |
| thiago_home | :-P | 20:17 |
| slaine | anaZ, some improvements, the garage stuff is now available, but the moblin stuff is still 403 | 20:17 |
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| Myrtti | "bobbles" | 20:17 |
| koupsaa | nono i va installed firstboot | 20:17 |
| thiago_home | I also heard "characters" | 20:17 |
| anaZ | slaine: :) I will let you know as promised | 20:17 |
| anaZ | :) | 20:17 |
| slaine | hehe | 20:18 |
| slaine | I've to head off actually | 20:18 |
| slaine | So I'll check again tomorrow morning (Irish time) | 20:18 |
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| slaine | catch you all then | 20:18 |
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| vivijim | hi, I'm trying to install the meego-preview-netbook-core-20100330-001.usbimg but I couldn't get a bootable usb stick with this image yet... I either mount locally or use the usb stick after "dd" the image to it... what filesystem is that? how to use it properly in order to get meego installed? | 22:15 |
| koupsa | is your cpu an atom | 22:17 |
| vivijim | yes | 22:17 |
| koupsa | works for me. any error message ? | 22:18 |
| vivijim | koupsa: my doubt is about how to put the .usbimg in the usb stick... just that... if I don't have this working propertly I cannot boot and cannot install consequently... | 22:19 |
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| koupsa | I just use dd | 22:20 |
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| vivijim | :( | 22:21 |
| koupsa | dd bs=4096 if=meego-0.90-meego-niala-netbook-core-201004081753.iso of=/dev/sdb | 22:21 |
| koupsa | change if=yourimage and of=/dev/yourusbdisk | 22:21 |
| vivijim | koupsa: but after use dd could you mount the usb stick? | 22:22 |
| koupsa | yes but its an squash | 22:22 |
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| koupsa | you can use your usbstick for boot | 22:23 |
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| lbt | http://repo.meego.com seemd to still be down...any ETA yet? | 22:24 |
| anaZ | it is actually up, dns is taking too long | 22:25 |
| koupsa | lbt, works for me | 22:25 |
| anaZ | flush your dns cache :) | 22:25 |
| lbt | OK, thanks... | 22:25 |
| anaZ | or that... | 22:26 |
| anaZ | http://140.211.166.227/ | 22:26 |
| lbt | yup - got it. Thanks Anaz | 22:26 |
| lbt | hmm, where's /tools? | 22:27 |
| lbt | looking for mic2 repo for debian | 22:27 |
| arjan | anaZ: did we set DNS short before the move? | 22:28 |
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| vivijim | koupsa: now it worked here, thanks! | 22:31 |
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| koupsa | vivijim cool :) | 22:33 |
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| TSCHAKeee | wow, this is impressive | 23:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | unplugged smartQ V7 from charger at 10 AM | 23:39 |
| Cosmo[PB] | what was? | 23:39 |
| TSCHAKeee | it is now 4:39 PM | 23:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | battery is at 25% full | 23:40 |
| TSCHAKeee | and this is running my orbiter software the entire time to control functions in this room. | 23:40 |
| Cosmo[PB] | better than the PSP | 23:40 |
| Cosmo[PB] | band new battery and it won't even charge | 23:40 |
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| Cosmo[PB] | I've done that where I've left my GPS on and it killed the battery | 23:41 |
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