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| sunweaver | 21:35 < sunweaver> I am a Debian developer and I would like to help out with packaging for Neo900/N900. Where is the right place to get in tocuh??? | 22:41 |
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| kerio | merlin1991: yo | 22:41 |
| sunweaver | just posted the above on #neo900 and #maemo and got directed here! | 22:41 |
| sunweaver | questions: | 22:42 |
| sunweaver | how to set up a build env? (I guess you don't build packages on N900 devies but in qemubuilder or such, right?) | 22:42 |
| kerio | scratchbox | 22:43 |
| sunweaver | who can sponsor uploads? | 22:43 |
| sunweaver | kerio: scratchbox2, I assume. | 22:44 |
| sunweaver | any setup howto targetting N900 builds? | 22:44 |
| kerio | as a reference, you can grab the ubuntu 12.something VM with scratchbox preinstalled | 22:44 |
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| kerio | http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/2nd_edition/ | 22:45 |
| sunweaver | ihhhh... vmware... | 22:45 |
| kerio | lol nvm it's like ubuntu 8 | 22:45 |
| kerio | no wait, it's karmic | 22:46 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation :-) | 22:46 |
| sunweaver | urgh, that lost support a while back... | 22:46 |
| ZetaR | sunweaver: This page on the Wiki might be helpful: https://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide | 22:46 |
| kerio | "that lost support a while back" - maemo fremantle in a nutshell | 22:46 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: do you want to package "vanilla" debian packages, or maemo ? | 22:46 |
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| stryngs | sunweaver: You could take the leap, and just package natively like i do =) | 22:47 |
| sunweaver | I want to help with getting security stuff fixed in Maemo first of all. | 22:47 |
| sunweaver | I also work on Debian LTS (squeeze), so the work flow should be similar. | 22:48 |
| bencoh | oh <3 | 22:48 |
| sunweaver | is there a security tracker for Maemo? I guess not... | 22:48 |
| bencoh | indeed | 22:48 |
| stryngs | sunweaver: Just cause we're rocking "OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-6.maemo5, OpenSSL 0.9.8n 24 Mar 2010 | 22:48 |
| stryngs | Doesn't mean we're insecure | 22:48 |
| bencoh | stryngs: we have a more recent openssl ;) | 22:48 |
| * stryngs is currently attempting a 7.0 build | 22:48 | |
| bencoh | in cssu-testing | 22:49 |
| stryngs | bencoh: version? | 22:49 |
| bencoh | stryngs: we (used to) have a bugtracker, dunno if it's still used | 22:49 |
| bencoh | stryngs: latest 0.9.8 iirc, or something close | 22:49 |
| sunweaver | hmmhmmmhmmm... | 22:49 |
| bencoh | 0.9.8z* | 22:49 |
| stryngs | nice | 22:49 |
| stryngs | but still not ssh above 5.1? | 22:49 |
| sunweaver | I am currently on vacation and fiddled with my N900... | 22:50 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU regarding cssu | 22:50 |
| sunweaver | I will get back to you guys in a week or two when back at work. | 22:50 |
| sunweaver | meanwhile I wil study the provided URLs, thanks!!! | 22:50 |
| bencoh | stryngs: 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo11 (11.04.2015) / Upgrade to upstream 0.9.8zf + maemo patches | 22:50 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: I'm not a cssu dev, but I'm pretty sure you're more than welcome :-) | 22:51 |
| sunweaver | can you give me some devs' names/nicks? (or can people raise their fingers?) | 22:52 |
| stryngs | sunweaver: Also, you should know. For you to build stuff. you'll have to 'optify' it | 22:52 |
| stryngs | Which sucks | 22:52 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: freemangordon (offline at the moment), merlin1991, Pali | 22:52 |
| bencoh | stryngs: that's a minor issue since we have some magic hooks to take care of that :-) | 22:53 |
| bencoh | but yeah | 22:53 |
| stryngs | bencoh: Yeah, but I can't magically dpkg -i a .deb with maemo | 22:53 |
| stryngs | And that's just sad. | 22:53 |
| stryngs | imho, the file system should be redone | 22:53 |
| stryngs | i.e. | 22:54 |
| stryngs | http://termbin.com/nuez | 22:54 |
| stryngs | http://termbin.com/0ug9 | 22:54 |
| stryngs | Much cleaner | 22:54 |
| stryngs | and I can dpkg -i any .deb without needing any special "hooks" | 22:54 |
| ZetaR | stryngs: Any chance of getting the filesystem layout fixed with the recent rebuild efforts for the Neo900? | 22:57 |
| sunweaver | what package repo are you guys using? | 22:57 |
| sunweaver | Getting the filesystem more FHS-like is probably a good thing to do? | 22:58 |
| kerio | ZetaR: but backwards compatibiiiiiility | 22:58 |
| sunweaver | ok, afk now again... | 22:58 |
| ZetaR | kerio: But interoperabiliiiiiiiitty. =) | 22:59 |
| kerio | sunweaver: original nokia one + extras-devel + community-testing | 22:59 |
| sunweaver | let me know the repo URLs for bleeding edge packages, please, so I can take a look. | 22:59 |
| sunweaver | sources.list lines??? | 22:59 |
| bencoh | sunweaver: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/ | 22:59 |
| bencoh | for bleeding-edge cssu-specific packages | 23:00 |
| sunweaver | ok... | 23:00 |
| stryngs | ZetaR: No idea for neo900, since people will use maemo on it, and most people don't care, i doubt things would change. | 23:00 |
| bencoh | (I guess you dont need the usual disclaimer about burning house and dying dog ;) | 23:00 |
| sunweaver | no | 23:01 |
| sunweaver | going afk... thamks! | 23:01 |
| bencoh | :-) | 23:01 |
| bencoh | cya | 23:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sunweaver: check out #maemo-ssu BTW that where the devs hang | 23:01 |
| ZetaR | stryngs: Is the layout with opt deeply integrated into Maemo then, or is it a matter of already ported applications? | 23:02 |
| * sixwheeledbeast facepalms | 23:02 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | looking at wrong tab | 23:03 |
| stryngs | ZetaR: It would be a matter of the community as a whole, realizing that the current layout for the n900 sucks, and then agreeing on a common filesystem layout regarding NAND 30gb and 2gb hdd | 23:03 |
| bencoh | ZetaR: afaiu compat with quite a few apps (including old closed-source non-free ones) | 23:04 |
| bencoh | stryngs: we all know it "sucks" | 23:04 |
| stryngs | bencoh: I just wish the cssu switchover process was a little bit easier to understand, and could be done 100% offline | 23:06 |
| ZetaR | I see. It just seems like a new device is a good opportunity to switch it around; an opportunity which may not come again soon. | 23:06 |
| stryngs | ZetaR: Well, you have many options to choose from, it's just the cssu community "holds" sway over the masses for the most part | 23:07 |
| stryngs | Does anyone know, if upgrading Libxml2 2.6.32.dfsg-5maemo4+0m5, will break the system? | 23:30 |
| stryngs | Can someone confirm if deb http://repository.maemo.org/community/ fremantle free non-free is proper cssu repo? | 23:54 |
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