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| DocScrutinizer05 | "decide on what's going into Stable..." hmm, seems that offers more freedom than there actually is | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe better reword that to "find out what may go into Stable, based on the paradigm of Stable and the tests that a particular package has passed..." | 00:36 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the maintainer has the ultimate end word, he/she "decides" whatever independend of all other opinions because only the maintainer has the upload rights ... | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, but to *become* maintainer you need a thorough understanding about the limitations in your free choice | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as in "Stable is well defined as the tested and bugfree version of Trsting" | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like the maintainer has the free choice to redefine this, by packing into Stable whatever s/he feels would be leete stuff to get in | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one *pretty* obvious rule: Stable packages are ex-Testing packages | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no package goes into Stable that not been tasted in Testing before | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tested* | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tasted is also fine ;-) | 01:12 |
| bencoh | Tasty-ng ? :) | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus the degrees of freedom in any decision the Stable maintainer does are quite defined and limited | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the tmo post sounds a tad different | 01:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe "... decides on go/nogo for any packages the CSSU team suggests for inclusion to Stable, based on reports about results of testing that s/he gathers from CSSU team as well as users of CSSU-T" | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd feel better when *you* had the ultimate word in all CSSU, rather than two independent maintainers competing who's got the... long... err leeter ideas | 01:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in a team you need a clear hierarchy, even when it doesn't take effect in day to day business | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't want to see CSSU-S drift away from CSSU-T | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and actually this also somewhat mitigates the qualification requirements, since CSSU-S maintainer regularly only needs to duplicate what already been done for CSSU-T | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and the "decision" is manly just *when* to do this copy | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mainly* | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and on this decision it feels natural in my book when CSSU-S maintainer decides but CSSU-* chief maintainer has a veto in that (the latter being you obviously) | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we had it this way when chemist took over maintentance of CSSU-S, iirc | 01:30 |
| kerio | i'll do it! first thing: cp -r cssu-testing/* cssu-thumb/* cssu-stable | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly what I'm concerned about. Thanks kerio ;-) | 01:33 |
| kerio | let it be on record that DocScrutinizer05 refused my offer of my services and expertise | 01:34 |
| kerio | i have a question, actually | 01:35 |
| kerio | can't we make cssu-stable be the cssu-testing of 2 major versions before? | 01:35 |
| kerio | kinda like debian does | 01:36 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 01:36 |
| merlin1991 | because ie qt h-d and other depend on each other | 01:36 |
| merlin1991 | since like 3 releases | 01:37 |
| merlin1991 | but | 01:37 |
| merlin1991 | we have known bugs ... | 01:37 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: if you feel up to the task, suggest yourself | 01:37 |
| merlin1991 | or rather volunteer yourself | 01:41 |
| merlin1991 | personally I fear nobody is going to show up, which isn't so bad in theory, because since t7 I keep the files, so I can just pick the right files, make a new metapackage and write a changelog to fulfill the minimum requirements, but I'd still rather see a dedicated maintainer ... | 01:47 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 sits in front of his magic caldron, trowing in chunks of meritocracy, anacho-syndicalism, a few drops of true pure democracy, and evil dark bitter incense straight from Shanghai, in a futile effort to match the flavor of what's keeping CSSU running | 01:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a few drops chaos? | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah much closer already | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | ;-) | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://img.welt.de/img/reise/crop108536582/571872134-ci3x2l-w620/Bei-Asterix-und-Obelix-wird-jetzt-auch-saeggssch-gesprochen.jpg | 01:57 |
| bencoh | zomg, german asterix :/ | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wu5IFDEDZhQ/UBaPLnsA3UI/AAAAAAAAAYo/xUKgp_o1HVw/s1600/59f59b37-59b3-4c94-a7c2-bc0fb834ec92.jpg | 01:58 |
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| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1430952#post1430952 | 08:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Yes I still want to help (I too wonder if anyone else will), however I need to make sure I am upto the task. I have only ever sent qt packages to the autobuilder. I have built a clean sb, and signed up to git but haven't had time to look any further. | 10:12 |
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| kerio | merlin1991: i don't have the necessary skills anyway | 11:05 |
| kerio | nor the resources to do it | 11:05 |
| kerio | i only have one working n900 | 11:05 |
| kerio | and it's my phone | 11:05 |
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