| mario | nope, i hit update-all, didnt think it matters | 00:01 |
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| freemangordon | it matters | 00:01 |
| mario | but i think its worth mentioning that i also hit update-all when i had kernel-power installed, and this time there was no boot loop | 00:02 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I want to install thumb on one of my devices, ist the repo stable again, or still in intermediate state? | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: it should be ok | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: -mp thingie is not ok, but I don;t think that will be problematic | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | mario: NFC then :( | 00:05 |
| mario | i can flash to stock again, and not click update-all | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | -mp thingie is still the old one or what? | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | yep, it does not depend on the latest package versions | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | but it should be >= $VERSION so no problem IMO | 00:07 |
| mario | also, does it matter if i am flashing this one: RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin ? | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | mario: should not matter, despite that was neer released | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | *never | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | the latest released is 36-2 | 00:08 |
| mario | i know, but with this one i dont have to bother with nokia outdated keys | 00:09 |
| mario | since thats the only update on there anyway | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: only HAM, HD and glibc are newer, so everything should be fine | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | mario: CSSU will install what is in 38-1 over 36-2 anyway | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | mario: but there should be no problem with 38-1 either | 00:10 |
| mario | ah ok, well then, ... lets see if update-all was the culprit | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | mario: but make sure to follow the steps in wiki *exactly* as written | 00:12 |
| mario | i just flashed vanilla image, now its doing combined 38-1 image... when it boots up, iwill grab .install file for cssu-thumb | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | grab? | 00:12 |
| mario | go to merlin1991 page? | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | open the link from microb | 00:12 |
| mario | yeah exactly | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | no | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | ~cssu-thumb | 00:13 |
| infobot | cssu-thumb is, like, <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | mario: oh, wait | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | my sister's device had similar problem to yours, it turned out that /opt is corrupted | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | so we had to flash *both* rootfs and EMMC | 00:13 |
| mario | i am flashing both emmc and rootfs | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | anything suspicious in dmesg log? | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:14 |
| mario | first emmc, then rootfs | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | ~flashing | 00:14 |
| infobot | methinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 00:14 |
| mario | everyone here is trigger happy with url's | 00:16 |
| mario | i did read all those of course | 00:16 |
| mario | i flash vanilla/emmc first, then fiasco/combined, and when it boots up its a clean install | 00:17 |
| mario | booted up into stock, opening up install file | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | mario: click on "details" and check which packages are going to be installed | 00:23 |
| mario | its offering me to agree to install community ssu enabler | 00:23 |
| mario | 0.7-4 version, from community -testing repo | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 00:24 |
| mario | hm what? :) | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | I meant after the enabler is installed | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | before the real "maemo5 ...." installation | 00:24 |
| mario | ok sec, HAM is slow | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | I know :) | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: which reminds me, when you'll have a time for a new update? | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | to fix that HAM slowness once and for all | 00:26 |
| merlin1991 | actually I should have some time by the end of this week | 00:26 |
| mario | btw, how come cssu-thumb is not hosted on maemo.org ? :P | 00:26 |
| merlin1991 | there is a national holiday on 1st of may ... | 00:26 |
| freemangordon | mario: it is hosted on merlin1991's server | 00:26 |
| mario | freemangordon, okay, it has finished, now i have update icon flashing | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: same here | 00:27 |
| mario | i will close HAM and open up real cssu installer | 00:27 |
| merlin1991 | what is the holiday reason? | 00:27 |
| merlin1991 | hm probably the same as here | 00:29 |
| * merlin1991 remembers what 1st of may is all about | 00:29 | |
| freemangordon | a couple of, iirc labour’s day and saint george's day combined | 00:29 |
| freemangordon | some 5 or 6 days (includein the holiday) | 00:29 |
| merlin1991 | I'm currently looking at diffception, (aka a diff of diffs) | 00:29 |
| mario | freemangordon, HAM opened up, its showing update-all, and under that button there are CSSU(thumb) and a list of updates | 00:29 |
| mario | all updates are libqtm-* | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | click'n' hold on "cssu-thumb" and select details | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | you should be presented with a list of packages to be installed | 00:30 |
| mario | yeah under 'updating' tab there are a list of packages | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | check if there is "kernel-cssu" etc | 00:31 |
| mario | i see linux kernel for community ssu | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | exactly | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | what about modules? | 00:31 |
| mario | 2.6.28-10cssu3 | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | correct | 00:31 |
| mario | yeah modules are there too | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | what about "kernel-cssu-modules"? | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | everything should be fine then | 00:31 |
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| mario | i think it wont work... :P | 00:33 |
| mario | want me to try anything else? | 00:33 |
| freemangordon | what? | 00:33 |
| freemangordon | what won;t work? | 00:33 |
| mario | or should i atetmpt to install it | 00:33 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:33 |
| mario | ok i hit agree/continue | 00:33 |
| freemangordon | click on "Maemo5 community..." | 00:33 |
| mario | yeah | 00:34 |
| mario | thats exactly what i am doing | 00:34 |
| freemangordon | mario: I hope your battery is charged | 00:35 |
| mario | its downloading 57,3 MB | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 00:35 |
| mario | it is, its even hooked up to charger still | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | good | 00:35 |
| mario | its updating, shuld i watch screen for those questions? | 00:37 |
| mario | ok it said "rebooting.." | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | hmm, too fast ?!? | 00:38 |
| mario | installing software update on nokia logo | 00:38 |
| mario | boot loop | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | mario: what? | 00:39 |
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| mario | its doing the boot loop | 00:39 |
| freemangordon | sofware update on nokia logo? | 00:39 |
| freemangordon | never seen that | 00:39 |
| mario | well, for a short time there is a nokia white logo | 00:40 |
| freemangordon | I know | 00:40 |
| mario | and on there it says 'installing updates' | 00:40 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ever seen that? ^^^ | 00:40 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 00:40 |
| mario | 1st line: "installing software update" | 00:40 |
| mario | 2nd line "please dont interrupt" | 00:40 |
| mario | and then it loops again | 00:41 |
| freemangordon | mario: never seen that, where did you get that device from? | 00:41 |
| mario | bought it in 2010 here in Croatia | 00:41 |
| freemangordon | any signs of HW failing? | 00:42 |
| mario | none | 00:42 |
| mario | if i install kernel-power before installing cssu-thumb its all fine | 00:42 |
| freemangordon | I got thta, but it shouldn't be that way | 00:42 |
| freemangordon | mario: could you enable R&D mode and check which kernel does it boot? | 00:43 |
| mario | sure | 00:43 |
| mario | moment | 00:43 |
| mario | haha, i got a new message | 00:43 |
| mario | written in green letters | 00:44 |
| mario | it says "MALFUNCTION" device shutting down in 10 seconds | 00:44 |
| mario | :) | 00:44 |
| freemangordon | cool | 00:44 |
| freemangordon | :( | 00:44 |
| mario | ok r&d enabled | 00:44 |
| mario | battery pull? | 00:44 |
| mario | theres nokia logo now, but its faded, i suppose i need to reboot it now to see what kernel its atempting to boot ? | 00:45 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:46 |
| mario | omap1 | 00:46 |
| mario | thats the kernel it tries to boot | 00:46 |
| freemangordon | weird | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | shouldn't be that way | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | for some reason flasher fails on your device | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | or HAM | 00:48 |
| mario | yeah apparently | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | but I have no idea why | 00:49 |
| mario | http://slackware.hr/~mario/nokia-n900/IMG_20140427_235220.jpg | 00:55 |
| mario | he he | 00:55 |
| mario | oh well, it works when i install kernel-power first, i will go that route now | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: seen my reasoning above, addressed at you? | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | no | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you mustn't install kernel-thumb same step as installing other thumbified stuff | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | odds are it runs thumbified binaries to install the kernel, aiui | 00:57 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which may or may not work | 00:58 |
| mario | i can try to install kernel-cssu instead of kernel power, maybe its doing it in wrong order and messing up kernel install ? | 00:58 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: so you think it may install thumbified glibc (for example) first and then use it? | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:59 |
| freemangordon | makes sense | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please read backscroll | 00:59 |
| freemangordon | yep, reading it | 00:59 |
| merlin1991 | hm interesting, here cssu-thumb conflicts with curl | 01:00 |
| merlin1991 | o_O | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: it seems you've installed the one from the repos :) | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: well, you'd better not install it right now | 01:01 |
| mario | ok i cleaned up n900 again with rootfs/emmc images, booting it up.. want me to try more stuff? | 01:01 |
| freemangordon | mario: no, thanks for the help | 01:01 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: it seems DocScrutinizer05 has a point here | 01:01 |
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| freemangordon | I have to think of a way how to fix that | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please read backscroll | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | detailed plan there | 01:02 |
| merlin1991 | you never touched systemlibs deep down enough to yield this problem, but libc.. | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: exactly | 01:02 |
| merlin1991 | but wtf is up with curl? | 01:03 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yep, reading | 01:03 |
| merlin1991 | ah crap | 01:03 |
| mario | alright, and thanks for your hard work! n900 = <3 | 01:03 |
| merlin1991 | extras has maemo7 | 01:03 |
| merlin1991 | o_O | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mario: sorry for being a tad harsh | 01:03 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: check extras-devel version | 01:04 |
| merlin1991 | hm wait, extras devel is 7.25.0-1maemo7 | 01:04 |
| freemangordon | yep | 01:04 |
| freemangordon | it was put there before entering cssu | 01:04 |
| merlin1991 | I have 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu... | 01:04 |
| mario | DocScrutinizer05, don't worry about it, you have no idea who's on the other side | 01:05 |
| merlin1991 | is my deb version foo broken too or shouldn't that be ok? | 01:05 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: do you have extras repo enabled? | 01:05 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 01:05 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait, only devel | 01:05 |
| freemangordon | disable devel and enable extras | 01:05 |
| freemangordon | and i guess it is about time to fix that libidn dependency | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | libidn? | 01:06 |
| freemangordon | curl depends on it | 01:06 |
| freemangordon | but it is only in extras :) | 01:06 |
| freemangordon | (iirc) | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | wtf did I install the curl from cssu then? | 01:07 |
| freemangordon | my version here is 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1 | 01:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | disabling extras but enabling extras-devel is kinda... :-X | 01:08 |
| freemangordon | smart? | 01:09 |
| mario | btw, I noticed some messages in HAM log, mainly about "ignoring version from wrong domain", and it looks like its connected to maemo.org | 01:09 |
| freemangordon | :) | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly smart, no | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I think there are packages in extras that are not in extras-devel | 01:09 |
| freemangordon | mario: it is rather ignoring nokia repos | 01:09 |
| merlin1991 | ah yep looks like you have a libidn dependency in the +thumb1 version that is not in the regular cssu verison | 01:10 |
| merlin1991 | but only on libcurl3 | 01:10 |
| mario | freemangordon, it happened even after i disabled nokia repos | 01:10 |
| freemangordon | hmm, weird | 01:10 |
| freemangordon | NFC then | 01:10 |
| mario | hehe :) | 01:10 |
| merlin1991 | hm a manual apt-get install curl worked though | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | weird | 01:13 |
| mario | libstdc++, libgcc, apt, libcurl3, libsdl are reporting this | 01:13 |
| mario | all from extras | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | and now ham is happy aswell | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | strange stuff | 01:15 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: make sure you have the correct kernel installed | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | i'm on kernel power | 01:16 |
| freemangordon | ok | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | this is the device I use for usb thetering openvpn tunneling and other fun stuff | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | and at one point I used it to crack a wep network for a university course :D | 01:17 |
| freemangordon | :D | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's one device here that I tested for dunnowhat, and it sucked empty my battery to the very end, depite me being sure about it being properly shutdown (or never booted up after bat insert) | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess not every subsystem powered directly from bat gets reliably shut down when SoC/PMU is in shutdown mode | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not sure about cmt, but for sure at least LP5523 could suck power from bat when not explicitly powered down | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc audio amp as well | 01:21 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, maybe (re)move glibc from thumb repo until I figure out how to correctly handle it | 01:26 |
| mario | freemangordon, is it normal that during cssu-thumb install gui looks kind of broken ? | 01:35 |
| mario | i took a pic, i suppose its normal: http://slackware.hr/~mario/nokia-n900/IMG_20140428_003403.jpg | 01:37 |
| freemangordon | mario: yep, hildon-desktop is stopped | 01:38 |
| freemangordon | and lots of other stuff | 01:39 |
| mario | it looks like it takes quite a bit longer now, i suppose boot loop was due to incomplete install | 01:39 |
| freemangordon | yep | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: do glibc right? | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the problem is not glibc, the problem is to make kernel install before you nstall *any* thumbified packages | 01:41 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: in other words - to make sure the correct kernel is installed | 01:41 |
| freemangordon | yep, exactly | 01:41 |
| freemangordon | kernel install *AND* reboot | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check thumb-property of kernel, NO: install kernel, link $self to autostart-on-boot, reboot | YES: go on installing cssu-thumb as usual | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | sure, but I have to *implement* that | 01:45 |
| freemangordon | :) | 01:45 |
| freemangordon | I guess this should go to mp- preinstall script | 01:46 |
| freemangordon | but I suspect there is standard "HAM" way of doing this, I need to find it | 01:47 |
| merlin1991 | something is foobar with my n900 | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | dl 44.9mb worth of updates is taking its time | 01:51 |
| merlin1991 | in other words since I wrote ham is happy it's doing that ... | 01:51 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i reckon it's not something that should be done manually | 02:22 |
| kerio | tell people to upgrade the kernel first | 02:22 |
| kerio | cuz that's an invasive change | 02:22 |
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| merlin1991 | btw freemangordon what's the latest and greatest regarding thumb browsers? (I never used thumb so far) | 02:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you should split the whole process into tow clearly segregate steps. step1: install kernel, step2: install any thumbified packages | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/tow/two/ | 02:48 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: freemangordon: you should split the whole process into two clearly segregate steps. step1: install kernel, step2: install any thumbified packages | 02:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since you sould boot after kernel swap, there's definitely no other way than that | 02:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/sould/must/ | 02:50 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: since you must boot after kernel swap, there's definitely no other way than that | 02:50 |
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| freemangordon | finally someone saw that on mainline kernel PM does not work :) http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg105178.html | 09:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>N900 debug leds<< WTF? | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah, kbd I guess | 16:44 |
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| merlin1991 | o_O debian has a security patch for dpkg DPKG! | 17:42 |
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| dos1 | "allowing for paths to be traversed when unpacking a source package" - thankfully unpacking source packages from unknown sources is something one doesn't do very often :) | 17:46 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yep, kbd leds | 18:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (dpkg) file: /dev/mem | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 18:47 |
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| freemangordon | chem|st: any idea if there will be cssu-stable update any time soon? | 23:13 |
| luf | freemangordon: hi, it seems you have the same question all the time :D | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | luf: hi!!! long time no see | 23:20 |
| freemangordon | yeah, unfortunatly, the same question | 23:20 |
| luf | freemangordon: long time I don't have a time to be active for cssu :( | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | yeah, that's bad, but RL is more important | 23:21 |
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