IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2013-10-13

dos1buu, cssu has hildon-desktop bug with long pressing left/right arrows on keyboard fixed00:14
dos1I liked to play with it :(00:15
Paliwhat bug?00:16
Palikeys switch to next/previous desktop00:16
dos1it was switching desktops faster than transition and it resulted in funny animation when you went "out of the desktop" :D00:17
PaliI do not see any problem on my n90000:18
Palimaybe ask arcean about it00:18
Pali~seen arcean00:19
infobotarcean <~arcean@aacr193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 35d 9h 52m 18s ago, saying: 'http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages'.00:19
Pali~seen arcean_00:19
infobotarcean_ <~arcean@aadb39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 231d 21h 38m 15s ago, saying: 'bef0rd: nicely done :)'.00:19
dos1Pali: cause it's already fixed - I remember it was there ~1.5 year ago, when I last used my N90000:24
dos1note "fixed" at the end of the sentence :)00:26
Pali:-)00:26
Palidocscrutinizer05, merlin1991: can you clone ssu repo to rmo?01:08
Paliand sign repo with rmo extras gpg key?01:08
Palinon working ssu nokia repo is problem and I can see only one option now: resign that repo01:09
Paliand create cssu update to fix ssu repo location01:09
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DocScrutinizer05hmm, I wonder if we're _allowed_ to do this01:45
DocScrutinizer05I however guess we should have a backup e.g. on skeiron, and nobody could blame us for creating a CSSU patch to redirect to THAT02:03
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joshgilliesanyone know a way to test whether a binary has been compiled with -mthumb ?10:17
joshgillieshave been building a few .debs - but am unsure whether they are thumb compatable or not10:18
psycho_oreosI think for thumb compatibility you need to have those two errata patches applied. Maybe even ideally to use the same set of GCC compiler as well.10:21
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infobotfreemangordon is currently on #maemo #maemo-ssu. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 12h 50m 24s, last said: 'anyway, I don;t have time now, lets leave it for tomorrow'.10:22
jonwilfreemangordon: ping10:23
joshgilliesI've ran throught the doc here: http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_%28gcc4.7.2-linaro%2910:24
joshgilliesand am pretty sure I'm building against that tool chain10:24
joshgilliesalso is there a protocol for adopting packages?10:26
joshgilliesI assume it's just a chase of getting in touch with the maintainer10:26
joshgilliescase**10:27
psycho_oreosNot sure on what other things you may need to build with thumb support. I do believe freemangordon would be quite familiar with the workings of thumb support to be frank. Then again there maybe forum threads available on how to compile stuff with thumb support.10:30
psycho_oreosAs for package adoption, it's probably best to contact the author if possible. If the author does not respond, you may be able to relinquish the maintainer rights. The best people to talk to would also be freemangordon afaik.10:31
joshgilliescool, I'll wait for freemangordon to respond :)10:33
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merlin1991merlin1991.at is going down for maintenance in a bit11:01
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freemangordonjonwil: pong12:37
freemangordonjoshgillies: passing -mthumb is all you need to have thumb-compiled binary12:37
joshgillieshaio12:39
joshgilliesto gcc/g++ yeah?12:39
freemangordonyep12:39
joshgillieswell thats that then :)12:39
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freemangordonyou you build .deb, it makes sense to check if DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS contain "thumb" and to add -mthumb to CFLAGS. in debian/rulse that is12:40
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freemangordonsee packges in cssu-thumb for an example12:40
freemangordonpackages even12:40
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joshgilliesI was actually doing just that12:41
freemangordonyou can use readelf to verify your compiled executable12:41
freemangordonreadelf -A $BINARY, iirc12:42
joshgilliesI'm guessing I'll also find examples of moving/linking /opt'd bins to /usr or similar12:42
freemangordonhmm, not sure, most of those are system packages living in roootfs12:42
joshgilliesah right12:42
freemangordonbut all you need is maemo-optify, the process is explained in wiki12:43
joshgilliesI'll keep digging in the python  package then12:43
freemangordonhmm, this is too complicated to be used as an example IMO12:43
joshgilliesyou're telling me :P12:43
joshgilliesthere is a LOT going on12:43
freemangordonyeah, you'd beter find another package to use12:44
joshgilliesif you can think of another simpler example that would be appreciated12:44
freemangordon*better12:44
joshgilliesor I'll just look around12:44
* freemangordon is having his first coffee for the day and can think of nothing :D12:44
joshgilliesI'm working on getting the latest Node.js into devel12:44
joshgilliesso it's a system/development package12:44
joshgilliesI'll drop back in later should I require any firther info12:45
joshgillieswell assuming this is a channel for such questions :P12:46
freemangordonnot exactly the right one :)12:46
joshgilliesmaemo-devel right?12:46
freemangordonI think #maemo would be better12:46
joshgilliesoh sure12:46
joshgilliesyeah devel looks like a ghost town by comparison12:47
jonwilFreemangordon: I found a bug in osso-systemui-dev/osso-systemui-alarm12:49
freemangordonwhat bug?12:49
jonwilThe definition of nsv_sv_play_event is wrong12:50
freemangordonis it?12:50
* freemangordon is checking12:50
jonwilx86 version12:50
jonwilfunction notify_alarm_start_clock is what I am looking at12:50
jonwilits clear that it takes 7 parameters not 312:51
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freemangordonextern guint nsv_sv_play_event(void*, guint type);12:51
freemangordonthat one?12:51
jonwilyep12:52
freemangordonjonwil: which lib is that?12:52
jonwillibhildon-plugins-notify-sv.so12:52
jonwilMy reverse engineering shows that guint nsv_sv_play_event(void *a1, guint type, gchar *file, guint unknown1, gchar *vibra_pattern, guint unknown2, guint volume) is the correct parameter12:52
freemangordonhild on a while till I open IDA12:53
jonwilok12:53
jonwilone look at hexrays of x86 systemui-alarm will show it12:54
jonwilbtw did you say you had an ida db for libhildon-plugins-notify-sv?12:54
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freemangordonjonwil: I uploaded it for you iirc12:55
freemangordona .zip archive12:55
freemangordoncontaining idadb and nsvpolicy.c nsvpolicy.h12:55
jonwilyeah found it12:55
freemangordonjonwil: hexrays fails on nsv_sv_play_event here :(12:57
jonwilbtw I have almost mapped out libplayback, the only issue I have is that pb_playback_req_state crashes hexrays12:57
freemangordonjonwil: what is your IDA version?12:58
jonwilHexrays works for me on that function12:58
freemangordonweird12:58
jonwil6.1.11031512:58
jonwilhexrays is 1.5.0.11040812:58
freemangordonsame here for ida, how to check hexrays version?13:00
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jonwiledit-plugins-hexrays13:00
freemangordonyep, the same version13:00
freemangordonweird13:01
jonwilbtw I suggest opening x86 version of libsystemuiplugin_alarm_dialog.so as a new IDB13:01
jonwiloh wait no13:01
jonwillet me send you my libsystemuiplugin_alarm_dialog idb13:01
freemangordonI have idb13:01
freemangordonafter all it was me to RE it :)13:02
jonwiloh ok13:02
jonwilwell look at notify_alarm_start_clock13:02
jonwilthat calls nsv_sv_play_event13:02
freemangordonok, just to find it13:02
jonwilwell I can tell you from my REing that the function looks like what I showed before13:03
freemangordonid = nsv_sv_play_event(plugin, 3);13:04
freemangordon2 parameters here13:04
freemangordonI'll check in asm code13:04
Palijonwil: I found that in maemo sdk repo there is source code of conn-settings-tool for editing internet connections13:04
Palialso deb package with same name13:05
Palimaybe this can be usefull for you13:05
jonwilgot a link?13:05
jonwilas for why your hildon-plugins-notify-sv idb cant decompile the function, IDA has screwed up13:06
freemangordonhmm:13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A26                 push    ecx13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A27                 push    64h13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A29                 push    113:06
freemangordon.text:00004A2B                 lea     eax, (aPatternincomin - 62FCh)[ebx] ; "PatternIncomingCall"13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A31                 push    eax13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A32                 push    113:06
freemangordon.text:00004A34                 push    edi             ; int13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A35                 push    3               ; int13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A37                 push    edx             ; int13:06
freemangordon.text:00004A38                 call    _nsv_sv_play_event13:06
freemangordonjonwil: seems you're right13:06
Palirepository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/libc/libconnsettings/libconnsettings_0.23+0m5.tar.gz13:06
jonwilopen your libhildon_plugins_notify_sv idb13:07
freemangordonok13:07
jonwilgo to nsv_sv_play_event13:08
freemangordonok13:08
jonwilscroll down to where it says sub_5FE013:09
jonwilpress u13:09
jonwilthen yes13:09
jonwilthen c13:09
jonwilthen scroll down to where it says "START OF FUNCTION CHUNK FOR nsv_sv_play_event"13:09
jonwilthen press edit-functions-remove function tail13:09
jonwilthen yes13:09
jonwilthen scroll down to where it says jmp     short nsv_sv_shutdown13:09
jonwilfind the jmp     short loc_5FE0 just above that13:10
jonwilpress e13:10
jonwilthen yes13:10
jonwilit should now decompile the function properly13:10
freemangordonok13:10
freemangordonyep13:10
freemangordonhmm, you are right13:11
jonwilso yeah my definition of that function as guint nsv_sv_play_event(void *a1, guint type, gchar *file, guint unknown1, gchar *vibra_pattern, guint unknown2, guint volume) is correct13:12
jonwildefine that as the parametrs in systemui-alarm and you will see the correct parameters for it to pass13:12
freemangordonsure :)13:12
jonwilwould explain any bugs with alarms in cssu :)13:13
freemangordonyep13:13
freemangordon:)13:13
freemangordonthanks a lot13:13
jonwilif I could get hexrays to decompile the one final function I would probably go ahead and RE libplayback13:15
jonwilnot that its doing very much other than talking to dbus13:15
jonwilactually no, it is doing more13:16
Paliin package conn-settings-tool is command line tool /usr/bin/conn_settings for editing any internet connection13:16
jonwilI seen that before13:17
freemangordonmerlin1991: ping, see the backscroll13:17
PaliI have never heard about it before13:17
freemangordonmerlin1991: I think we should fix that ASAP13:17
jonwilnot sure just how useful a clone of libplayback would be...13:18
freemangordonjonwil: it will help you with  hildon-plugins-notify-sv :P13:18
Palijonwil: did you looked at documentation about libplayback on wiki?13:18
merlin1991freemangordon: yep that should be fixed asap13:19
freemangordonmerlin1991: going to fix the 2 packages13:19
freemangordonwill ping you when ready13:19
Palithere is also docs on maemo.org api page and also on some TMO thread13:19
Paliall links are on wiki13:19
Palifreemangordon: about kcssu and overclock: can you create LD_PRELOAD library for powertop?13:22
Paliso we can include overclock support (which is needed for hd dsp codecs) into kcssu?13:22
freemangordonsure, but why? isn't it better to fix powertop instead13:22
Palibut how to fix powertop:13:23
Pali?13:23
jonwilI cant find libplayback wiki entry13:23
Palijonwil: it is somewhere in api/tools13:23
PaliI can google for it13:23
jonwilplease do13:23
jonwilmy google-fu isnt finding it13:23
Palifreemangordon: or are there sources for powertop?13:23
freemangordonPali: yep, it is GPLed13:24
jonwilI have libplayback-doc package13:24
jonwilbut Nokia violate the GPL on it IIRC13:24
Palifreemangordon: powertop version for maemo/armel is gpl violation13:24
Palisources are missing13:24
jonwilbtw, anyone know if http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/nokia-binaries/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79/nokia-binaries/c/cail/ is a GPL violation or not? Looks like it might be13:25
Palifatphil already wrote something about powertop13:25
freemangordonPali: but we can't prove it, and it doesn't make much of a sense to go that route13:25
Palijonwil: are you right that cail is not on gitorious/garage/...?13:25
jonwilI cant find source13:26
jonwiland closed_packages doesn't point to it13:26
freemangordonPali: so if we just can find the sources, we'll be fine13:26
freemangordonanyway, back to fixing alarm13:26
freemangordonjonwil: BTW those unknown parameters look like gbooleans13:27
jonwilthey might be13:27
freemangordonid = nsv_sv_play_event(plugin, 3u, sound_file, 1u, "PatternIncomingCall", 1u, 100u);13:27
Palijonwil: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#libplayback13:27
freemangordonjonwil: though I'll leave them as guints for now13:28
jonwilneither of those fields are actually passed to anything13:29
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jonwilas for libplayback, I understand 90% of what its doing, just that one function that hexrays wont decompile thats getting in the way13:33
Palijonwil: page about closed packages updated13:36
Palicail really has lgpl license in deb files13:36
jonwilhmmm, not sure if a libplayback clone is actually necessary13:38
freemangordonok, seems new systemui-alarm still works, going to push to gitorious13:46
jonwilgreat13:46
jonwildont forget to push new systemui-dev :)13:47
freemangordonsure :)13:47
freemangordonmerlin1991: changes pushed on gitorious13:50
freemangordonjonwil: please veify :D13:50
freemangordon*verify13:50
freemangordonjonwil: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-dev/commit/23aa6707261541b8d404283ccc225fe242ad161213:50
jonwillooks good to me on that13:51
freemangordonmerlin1991: I thing we should skip cssu-devel on that one13:52
freemangordon*think13:52
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freemangordonmerlin1991: there are other packages to go in the update though, supl.nokia.com is a must IMO13:54
freemangordonwell, the fix for it13:54
Paliplease do only small cssu update with urgent fixes13:54
freemangordonPali: supl is urgent in my book13:55
PaliI will look at other packages which are in devel/gitorious and not in testing when my laptop will be back13:55
freemangordonwithout it you effectively have no GPS13:55
Palifreemangordon: yes supl is urgent13:55
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Palibut remove also package location-supl-fix from testing and metapackage13:56
freemangordonit is not there afaik13:56
freemangordonit is only in -devel13:56
Palithen ok13:56
Paliremove it from devel :-)13:56
freemangordon:)13:57
freemangordonhmm, what about fix for https://bugs.maemo.org/1270113:59
povbotBug 12701: osso-systemui-tklock ball moving when touching anywhere along bar-slide13:59
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freemangordonnot that critical imo14:00
freemangordonmerlin1991: are you alive?14:00
freemangordonPali: jonwil: going to push systemui-alarm in -devel, please test it14:01
kolpthe supl fix, is that in the new certman packages?14:01
freemangordonkolp: yes14:03
kolpIf it's that then I can report that I'm *very* happy with it :)14:03
kolpOk14:03
kolpWorks great14:03
freemangordonPali: jonwil: pushed in -devel, please test14:03
merlin1991freemangordon: yeah new certman should go in aswell14:03
freemangordonmerlin1991: it is you from now on :)14:04
merlin1991freemangordon: what needs to be rebuilt based on the systemui fix?14:04
Palifreemangordon: how to test?14:04
freemangordonmerlin1991: systemui-dev first, install it and rebuild systemui-alarm14:04
freemangordonPali: setup an alarm14:04
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Palibut first I need to reboot... hm cannot do it now14:05
freemangordon_WTF?14:05
freemangordon_Pali: killall systemui14:05
freemangordon_no ned to reboot14:05
freemangordon_*need14:05
Paliright, I forgot14:05
freemangordon_why I got disconnected?14:06
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Paliyou can add freenode command which will kick user who holding your nick name before joining to channels14:07
Paliso you will always have correct nick name on disconnect problems14:07
freemangordonPali: ever heard of leafchat?14:08
Palileafchat? no14:08
freemangordonI bet I am the ony one using it on freenode :D14:08
freemangordonA piece of crappy java shit14:09
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* jonwil wonders why hildon-plugins-notify-sv was closed source in the first place14:21
freemangordonPali: hmm, no, to test it the device have to be powered down14:23
freemangordonjonwil: yeah, doesn;t make much of a sense14:24
jonwilits probably doing something Nokia didn't want to document14:24
freemangordonthe fact it is buggy as hell :D14:24
Palior legacy code14:24
Palilike systemui14:24
jonwilquite possible14:25
Palicomes from 77014:25
Paliin 770 era some parts was subcontracted and they was not opened because of legacy14:25
jonwilin any case I dont think I have the skills to completly reverse engineer it :P14:25
Paligood example is file browser14:26
freemangordonjonwil: do whatever possible, I'll take it from there :P14:26
Palibtw, there is leaked version of osso file manager from 200814:26
Palisource code14:27
freemangordonPali: do we really need it?14:27
jonwilfile browser? no14:27
freemangordonthere are a couple of foss replacements14:27
Palifile manager has bug which sometimes freeze14:27
freemangordonI know ;)14:27
Paliwhen opened from dbus14:27
freemangordonyep14:28
Palibut that is very old version...14:28
jonwilok, so is there anything useful we can do if libplayback was cloned?14:28
jonwilunfortunatly it seems like all the packages with x86 versions in the SDK are either too hard for me to reverse engineer, already cloned or not worth cloning14:34
jonwillibplayback would be a go except that I cant get those few functions to decompile14:34
freemangordonjonwil: can't you gess what those functions do by asm?14:35
freemangordon*guess14:35
jonwilnot really, its too big14:35
jonwilmaybe I should go back to looking at the cellular services daemon dbus calls14:35
jonwiland I dont see a reason to reverse engineer libplayback in any case14:39
jonwilyet again I reach the inevitable conclusion that all the good stuff is too hard to reverse engineer14:40
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jonwilmaybe I should get off my ass and make that libossoproductinfo-dev package I keep talking about :P15:24
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Palijonwil: what you can do is look at flasher.rover and chek when/why it writing string message writing certificate..15:32
Paliand maybe look if there is not something hidden in flasher.rover15:34
Palisome hidden functionality15:34
jonwilok, the code that prints "Certificate '%s' programmed.\n"15:37
Paliwhat it means? how can be certificate programmed into n900?15:38
Paliand where it is used?15:38
jonwilthe value passed as the %s is set earlier in the function to one of "CCC", "NPC", "HWC", "R&D"15:38
Palihm...15:39
freemangordonPali: toldya, the only hardcoded certificate in the device is TI one iiuc15:39
freemangordonthe other certificates are signed wit it and loaded by either xloader or flasher (it seems)15:40
jonwilit just so happens that the certificates named ccc, npc and hwc are stored in CAL15:40
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jonwiland their data can be retrieved by sysinfo-tool15:40
Paliand why somebody want to write cert to cal?15:40
Paliwho is using it?15:40
Paliany idea?15:41
Palijonwil: who is using that certs in maemo?15:41
Palican you grep maemo rootfs?15:42
jonwilcertificate npc appears to contain GSM IMEI, bluetooth MAC and wlan MAC15:43
Paliso maemo sscd/csd passing them to cellmo?15:44
jonwildont know about imei15:44
jonwilbut wl1251-cal is what reads wlan mac15:44
jonwiland bluetooth-sysinfo reads bluetooth mac15:44
freemangordonjonwil: wait, what does it mean certificate to contain MEI and MAC?15:45
jonwilits a block in CAL15:45
freemangordonIMEI15:45
jonwilcontaining these values15:45
freemangordonbut is this a real certificate then?15:45
jonwilsysinfo-tool (and libsysinfo and etc) can pull them15:45
jonwildont know, would need to see if its signed or not15:45
PaliI still do not understand why for flashing new crypto enabled xloader is needed that new flasher.rover15:46
jonwilbut I assume it is a real certificate15:46
freemangordonPali: we should ask the author15:46
Paliright15:46
jonwilcertificate ccc contains wlan-channel, content-region, keyboard-layout, fmtx, default-language15:46
jonwilwlan-channel is what wlan regulatory domain to use15:47
jonwilcontent-region is "Britain"in my case15:47
jonwilkeyboard-layout is "english,dutch"15:48
jonwilfmtx is for the value used by fm transmitter for whats legal to use15:48
jonwilI dont know fmtx enough to know exact details of it15:49
jonwiljust that its got to do with regulations about fm transmitters in different countries15:49
jonwilok, so what else should I be looking for in flasher.rover15:51
jonwilany strings I should be chasing up?15:52
jonwilI dumped those 3 certs from my CAL and I cant tell if they have signatures or not15:53
jonwilI can say though that the things that pull bluetooth MAC/WiFi MAC dont do any verification as far as I can tell15:54
jonwilOn Harmattan this stuff IS validated via libbb516:04
jonwilaha, ccc is "Common Configuration Certificate"16:10
jonwilhwc is "Hardware Configuration Certificate"16:10
jonwilnpc is "Nokia Public Certificate"16:12
jonwilanything else in flasher.rover that I can look up?16:21
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jonwilPali: DocScrutiinzer05: Freemangordon: others: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1380384#post138038418:30
jonwilsome new header files for you to play with )18:30
jonwil:)18:30
jonwilfor libossoproductinfo, libsysinfo, sysinfod and libicd2 :)18:30
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freemangordonmerlin1991: new update ready?20:13
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merlin1991I'll get it done tomorrow20:16
freemangordonok20:22
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FatPhilI did indeed write to nokia source requests regarding powertop, claiming that I believed it to be a derivative work of Intel's PowerTOP.23:51
FatPhilNo response yet23:51
FatPhilI didn't give any indication how I knew it was a derivative work - namely that I've seen the source tree because I've even worked on it!23:55
FatPhilDecided to let Nokia try and lie to me first before showing my hand.23:56

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