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| infobot | pali is currently on #maemo (12h 32m 47s) #harmattan (12h 32m 47s) #maemo-ssu (12h 32m 47s). Has said a total of 49 messages. Is idling for 2h 6m 52s, last said: 'DocScrutinizer05 ^^^^'. | 00:17 |
| Pali | I'm here | 00:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hi | 00:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so I have been fixing flopswap to use blkid and mount-ops-overwrite. works great on cssu-devel but I am not sure how to support older versions that don't support new mount-ops. | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | clearly fell for the convenience trap | 00:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | mhm | 00:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | when I say "support", I mean how to tell flopswap to do "something else" because mount-ops-overwrite is not supported on this device. | 00:57 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | "something else" being fallback to "$swap0" (device swap in blkid) at boot. | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err, cehck for presence of some unique file? | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if CSSU doesn't support a way to detect presence of the feature, I'd honestly open a ticket against that | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, what worth is a feature when you don't provide a method to check for its presence | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hostmode kernel exports a feature "hostmode" | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly hope thumb enabled kernel provides a feature "thumbified" | 01:45 |
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| FatPhil | pali: (and yes, I know you're not online right now) - I vaguely remember some failure-to-wake-up bug to do with the crypto accelleration, but that was probably in a n950 context | 02:52 |
| FatPhil | and I presume the slowness was due to things being chopped into too many too-small chunks, so that the overhead communicating with the security subsystem was too high. THat's just a guess. | 02:55 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: for sure it does, kernel-errata-xxx-workaround | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 02:56 |
| FatPhil | I think they got it working on the n9 eventually. (I seem to remember the patches went physically through my hands, and I'm pretty sure I remember who wrote them, and I sit at a desk next to him for 2 more weeks) | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | failure-to-wake-up? sounds like the secret SiErr in IMAP4 | 02:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OMAP even | 02:57 |
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| freemangordon | guys, any idea what to check for if I get wake-up events on gpois, but no irqs? | 02:58 |
| freemangordon | s/irqs/interrupts | 02:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what means "wake-up event"? | 02:59 |
| freemangordon | "WAKEUPEVENT: Wake-up event status for the pin." | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea, can't associate it to a CPU status or event | 03:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | when the GPIO is set up to create a IRQ, when the .... oooh WAKEUP, you mean that special type of IRQ that wakes up CPU from sleep. | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's kinda tricky I heard | 03:06 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 03:06 |
| FatPhil | needs to be in a wake-up domain | 03:06 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: I guess it is if I got wakeupvenet bit set | 03:06 |
| freemangordon | wakeupevent even | 03:06 |
| freemangordon | however, the problem is that I don;t reeive ISP and SSI interrupts | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since when CPU and particularly IRQ controller are powered down, a wake event will cause the power and clock management to ramp up those function blocks, but the IRQ controller not necessarily notices and fires an IRQ in parallel to the wake event | 03:07 |
| freemangordon | I checked the clocks in IDLEST status reg and they seem to be running | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 03:07 |
| FatPhil | edge-triggered, or level-triggered? | 03:08 |
| freemangordon | hmm, not sure what the driver sets, but the same driver (SSI for example) works with 3.5 | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard colleagues discussing exactly this problem for a HSI(?) interface, and I seem to recall they had to take special care in a wake-handler to make sure the IRQ handler gets triggered | 03:09 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: there is some HW bug, but Iput the workaround in place | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the IRQ controller doesn't do the edge detection by static means like gates etc, it actually "polls" the GPIOs to detect a state change | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this doesn't work when the IRQ-controller is sleeping | 03:10 |
| FatPhil | which sounds broken, but a level-triggered interrupt might be a possible work-around? | 03:10 |
| freemangordon | I don;t believe IRQ controller is sleeping while ISP is awake | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, level triggered is always the better choice | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you got a handler that's actually servicing the IRQ source | 03:11 |
| freemangordon | wait, wait, ISP and SSI irq are internal , not GPIO IRQs | 03:12 |
| freemangordon | well, ISP for sure | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't make a difference, I guess | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's about the irq controller and its status | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all I know for sure is: a wake event doesn't always cause an IRQ, even when the source is configured for both | 03:13 |
| freemangordon | well, but it should cause at least some times :) | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, when the triggering condition is met during SoC _not_ in suspend/sleep mode | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW when no wake event happens | 03:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then IRQ happens | 03:15 |
| freemangordon | mhm. But I see NO interrupts. actually sensors (switches etc) gpio interrupts are raised | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this MUST be documented somewhere in the intarwebs | 03:16 |
| freemangordon | but no interrupts from ISP and SSI | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it seems a ARM idiosyncrasy | 03:16 |
| freemangordon | hmm, is it possible that twl wakeup scripts to miss those power domains? | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err can't parse that | 03:17 |
| freemangordon | anyway, I need to have some sleep :) | 03:18 |
| freemangordon | night | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can WAKE config even be set to edge-triggered at all? | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think for IRQ that are meant to WAKE, level trigger is mandatory | 03:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmmm >>There are two ways of doing it currently: with or without DT.<< https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio.txt | 03:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | WOW, >>only *edge*-triggered GPIOs are capable of generating a module-level wakeup to the PRCM (c.f. 34xx NDA TRM section 25.5.3.2.)<< | 03:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | > >In order to ensure that devices using level-triggered GPIOs a sinterrupts can also cause wakeups (e.g. from idle), this patch enable sedge-triggering for wakeup-enabled, level-triggered GPIOs when a GPI Obank is runtime-suspended (which also happens during idle.)<< | 03:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-March/087973.html | 03:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if that helps to find the problem | 03:58 |
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| oooaaaooo | hi all so im looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#On_Device | 07:32 |
| oooaaaooo | and am wondering if i need the miniwrapper thing | 07:32 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | <<DocScrutinizer05: err, cehck for presence of some unique file?>> exactly, but "what". I have been comparing /etc/ on two devices and I can't see a unique file. only changes in files (mount-ops, rcS-late, fstab), and not something I think I could positively grep. unless I am missing something. I can only think of dpkg-query, but I don't know what package. | 10:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ah it seems to be "upstart 0.3.8-68+0cssu5" | 11:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | dpkg-query -W -f='${Version}\n' upstart | 12:01 |
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| Pali | you can ask dpkg-query for upstart version and then use dpkg --compare-versions to check if upstart version is at least version which you need | 12:37 |
| * sixwheeledbeast goes searching for dpkg --compare-versions, thanks | 12:42 | |
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| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: im trying to install less but apt-get says "Couldn't find package less" do i have to enable the extras repo to be able to follow http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 13:03 |
| oooaaaooo | thnx | 13:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pkg | 13:03 |
| infobot | from memory, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 13:03 |
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| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: how do i install find on the N900? aptitude says "Package: findutils | 13:13 |
| oooaaaooo | State: not a real package" | 13:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | findutils-gnu | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc about aptitude | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/findutils-gnu/ | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ tells you it's in Fremantle Extras-devel free armel | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka "extras-devel catalog" | 13:24 |
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| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: thnx | 13:35 |
| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: in your wiki entry, what is this all about: "# execute or source this to fix the missing end-times in eventslogger db" ? | 13:37 |
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| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: ok so i now understand what that case switch at the beginning of your wiki wasa all about! | 13:41 |
| oooaaaooo | Nokia-N900:~# apt-get autoremove | 13:41 |
| oooaaaooo | NONONO!! Don't do that! | 13:41 |
| oooaaaooo | lolz | 13:41 |
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| jonwil | pali: ping | 13:42 |
| Pali | jonwil: pong | 13:43 |
| oooaaaooo | so if i get a "Ouch! Got SIGSEGV, dying.. | 13:46 |
| oooaaaooo | Segmentation fault" that usually means that my memory allocation isnt enough to run the program? | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooaaaooo: it's about what it says: fixing the timestamps in eventsdb, so tools like extended call logger can show duration of a call | 13:47 |
| FatPhil | what's the right channel for n950 questions? | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooabtw all this is rather OT in this channel | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooaaaooo: ^^^ | 13:48 |
| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: ok | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please take it to #maemo | 13:48 |
| oooaaaooo | DocScrutinizer05: ok | 13:48 |
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| jonwil | merlin1991: ping | 18:43 |
| jonwil | ~seen merlin1991 | 18:44 |
| infobot | merlin1991 is currently on #maemo (10d 16h 4m 33s) #harmattan (10d 16h 4m 33s) #maemo-ssu (10d 16h 4m 33s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 9d 22h 19m 39s, last said: '#neverdothatatall'. | 18:44 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon: because of gitorious problems, what about create mirrors on github? | 20:59 |
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| merlin1991 | jonwil pong | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | in case of reading backlog ;) | 21:37 |
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| Pali | merlin1991: now when I should have permission, I will create cssu gitorious repositories... | 22:09 |
| Pali | also I have links for jonwils repo files | 22:10 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: sure go ahead :) | 22:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | FatPhil: ooops I completely missed your question - right channel for N950 Q is #harmattan | 23:46 |
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