| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I wonder why skeiron factoid still mentions tablets-dev | 00:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | this should be one of the few n.c URLs that still work | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 00:01 |
| ShadowJK | wasnt working earlier when I tried | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please holler immediately when it doesn't | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we need to fix that before somebody complains at Nokia care about it | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | ic | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev | 00:02 |
| infobot | well, tabletsdev is http://tabletsdev.maemo.org, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn | 00:03 |
| ShadowJK | that works | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ | 00:04 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev is also http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev | 00:04 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev is also http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ or http://tabletsdev.maemo.org | 00:05 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev | 00:06 |
| infobot | i guess tabletsdev is http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/http://tabletsdev.maemo.org | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf?! | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget tabletsdev | 00:06 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot tabletsdev | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | +listkeys tabletsdev | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys tabletsdev | 00:06 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'tabletsdev' by key (1): tabletsdev #DEL#. | 00:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev is <reply>http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ or http://tabletsdev.maemo.org | 00:07 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev | 00:07 |
| infobot | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ or http://tabletsdev.maemo.org | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird bug in bot | 00:08 |
| FatPhil | here's the pselect patch, indeed not in the nokia kernel: | 00:08 |
| FatPhil | commit 369842658a36bcea28ecb643ba4bdb53919330dd | 00:08 |
| FatPhil | Author: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se> | 00:08 |
| FatPhil | Date: Sat Aug 15 12:58:11 2009 +0100 | 00:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but in CSSU/KP | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ran childspin on my N900 to prove we got that problem. It's indeed not on Nokia kernel | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need to give system some decent load so eventually it will preempt the childspin process | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nice -15 while true; do x=$((55555/333)); done | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in a second shell. does the trick | 00:12 |
| FatPhil | hmmm, I've got way too many repos here. just discovered a copy of git://gitorious.org/nokia-n900-kernel/nokia-n900-kernel.git | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 00:13 |
| FatPhil | That was probably Ameya's tree, I thikn he rebased to 2.6.35 | 00:15 |
| FatPhil | how's maemo.org being financed and managed? | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | financed by free colocation, managed by stupid volunteers like me | 00:19 |
| kerio | so stupid | 00:20 |
| kerio | literally the stupidest tech staff coordinator we have | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1369830#post1369830 awesome | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: absolutely | 00:20 |
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| ShadowJK | 7 months ago the hosting was expensive, and the decisionmaking was stalled by everyone except the filibustering lawyer resigning in protest, or something like that. I might remember wrong though :) | 00:28 |
| ShadowJK | (especially as I had and still havent got much time to follow stuff) | 00:28 |
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| FatPhil | hmmm, backupmenu's a no-go as it depends on mtd-tools, which depends on liblzo2-2 which isn't available. | 00:45 |
| kerio | D: | 00:46 |
| kerio | but seriously tho | 00:47 |
| kerio | flash dat shit | 00:47 |
| FatPhil | I'll flash my other spare one, I'll probably pick it up at the weekend, or have my g/f bring it over | 00:48 |
| ShadowJK | it's in fremantle tools | 00:48 |
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| FatPhil | you're not implying I need an SDK are you? | 00:59 |
| kerio | no, but you might need to install the package from the fremantle/tools repo | 01:02 |
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| FatPhil | can't find a link for that repo | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/liblzo2-2/ | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ | 01:08 |
| kerio | why is there a package in -testing that can't be installed? | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lik to tools repo on ~jrtools | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | because somebody thought we might promote it? | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethefirst been aware that it's facing depedency problems in extras(-testing) | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I simply might fix that, promoting liblzo2-2 to extras ;-P | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc it been me who told him "promote it! we'll deal with any problems in that later" | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now we know the problems, now we can deal with them, eh? ;-D | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I thought it been i2c-tools that were not available in extras | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I#m a bit puzzled about liblzo | 01:13 |
| FatPhil | liblzo2-dev - data compression library (development files) | 01:13 |
| FatPhil | liblzo2-2-dbg - Debug symbols for liblzo2-2 | 01:13 |
| FatPhil | both known to apt-cache | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possibly a side effect of epoch fix? | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't even know why BM needs liblzo at all | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooohshit, depends from mtdtools | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: could you please have a look into that mess and fix it? simply move any package needed to the place where it's needed, if there's no more arcane reason like "can't install from Nokia repos" or sth | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_nokia-applications_explicit_armel/liblzo2-2/2.03-1maemo3/ | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 01:18 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 feels like never having heard of this repo | 01:20 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this whole repo management is a major PITA | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems this is no repo at all | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather the lib should ship with fiasco aiui | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ohmy | 01:23 |
| kerio | i could check my n900 | 01:24 |
| kerio | but my wifi isn't working, so i'd have to *walk* to it | 01:24 |
| kerio | no wait i have bluetooth PAN working | 01:24 |
| FatPhil | my old device has liblzo2-2 installed, weird | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/6d5426d171 | 01:25 |
| kerio | it's in both dmnc repos | 01:26 |
| kerio | and in fremantle/tools | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and dmnc has exoired-key issue? | 01:27 |
| kerio | irrelevant, for HAM | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is it | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 01:27 |
| kerio | it is | 01:27 |
| kerio | i think | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also, no HAM used | 01:27 |
| kerio | i dunno | 01:27 |
| kerio | it's definetely not relevant for apt-get | 01:27 |
| kerio | and if it's not installed | 01:27 |
| kerio | wait | 01:27 |
| kerio | mh | 01:27 |
| kerio | i dunno lol | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FFS | 01:28 |
| kerio | it might be considered a system package | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 01:28 |
| kerio | anyway, let's just get a more recent liblzo2-2 in extras | 01:28 |
| kerio | stop depending on nokia | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, hotfix | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kill Nokia, with fire! | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how stupid can you be letting your single pubkey expire? | 01:29 |
| kerio | even worse | 01:29 |
| kerio | not using your current, working pubkey to resign a repo | 01:29 |
| kerio | because of "reasons" | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 01:30 |
| kerio | it's literally just two openssl commands | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "reasons" is they don't find it | 01:30 |
| kerio | or possibly even just one | 01:30 |
| jon_y | so ballmer retiring soon, what would Nokia do? | 01:30 |
| kerio | that dude said that they did have it | 01:30 |
| FatPhil | ship them an Elop | 01:30 |
| jon_y | :) | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 01:30 |
| FatPhil | MS deserves an elop on top | 01:30 |
| nox- | hehe | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uncle fester retires, gasoline pisser moves to redmond | 01:31 |
| jon_y | is it illegal to have the same CEO run 2 companies at the same time? | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while they are no more two companies anyway | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would just straighten things | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | MS-Nokia | 01:33 |
| jon_y | ah, so dynastic personal unions are still possible in this modern age | 01:33 |
| jon_y | totally will try to merge as MS-Nokia | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FatPhil: get liblzo2 stuff via dpkg | 01:34 |
| jon_y | more like absorbed | 01:34 |
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| FatPhil | OK, now starting to apply patches to the nokia kernel from the community-ssu repo | 02:23 |
| FatPhil | why are there no commit messages? | 02:23 |
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| FatPhil | Oh noes! Joikusploit! | 02:41 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 02:42 |
| FatPhil | I'm just applying the kernel-cssu patches to the nokia kernel | 02:42 |
| kerio | why not the kernel-power ones? | 02:42 |
| kerio | also, why not just use kernel-power? | 02:42 |
| FatPhil | because I was told to use the kernel-cssu ones! | 02:43 |
| kerio | but it's the exact same thing | 02:43 |
| kerio | but kernel-power has teh power | 02:43 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: hold on, elaborate on what you're trying to do | 02:43 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: also, what is kernel-cssu? | 02:44 |
| FatPhil | url = git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/kernel-cssu.git | 02:47 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: this is the kernel in cssu-thumb. I am the maintainer of cssu-thumb, just in case you're not aware. Now, what you're trying to do? | 02:48 |
| FatPhil | just trying to get up to date. I've just got a couple of 2nd hand n900s, one of which will become my new daily device, the other of which will become a development device. | 02:51 |
| FatPhil | grrr, the current kernel-power isn't a ffwd of the old http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/kernel-power.git | 02:52 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: oh, sorry | 02:52 |
| freemangordon | I just forgot that http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1369526&postcount=75 | 02:53 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: welcome :) | 02:53 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: well, kcssu as of now is KP | 02:53 |
| FatPhil | howdy, looks like you've been working hard | 02:53 |
| freemangordon | I guess so :P | 02:54 |
| freemangordon | however | 02:54 |
| FatPhil | though I don't understand the inclusion of some of those diffs in the kernel-cssu repo | 02:54 |
| freemangordon | I am also one of the KP maintainers | 02:54 |
| FatPhil | In part because they don't have commit messages! | 02:54 |
| freemangordon | well, some of them was done bask in 2011 for example | 02:55 |
| freemangordon | back* | 02:55 |
| freemangordon | the guys are not a part of the community since then | 02:55 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: check http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_kernel_assess | 02:56 |
| freemangordon | we plan t include a krenel in the next CSSU based on that table | 02:56 |
| freemangordon | *to | 02:56 |
| freemangordon | sthe so-called kernel-cssu is what I use for a kernel in cssu-thumb, it is just KP51r1 | 02:57 |
| freemangordon | ther real kernel-cssu will be based in the above table. we want to have it because of the long-standing ppoll/pselect bug in kernel/glibc | 02:58 |
| freemangordon | if you are aware of it | 02:58 |
| FatPhil | I'm doing everything in git, so I can just create a new branch and add the kernel-power patches to that branch instead. | 02:59 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: wait | 02:59 |
| FatPhil | I'm no fan of quilt, presuming these packages are for quilt | 02:59 |
| freemangordon | what are you trying to do? | 02:59 |
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| freemangordon | you may also want to have a look at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu | 03:34 |
| FatPhil | that;s where I got the kernel-cssu | 03:40 |
| freemangordon | I see. But is is just a tiny part of all the stuff IMO | 03:41 |
| freemangordon | Qt is 4.7.2 for example | 03:41 |
| freemangordon | hldon-desktop has bug-free portrait support ;) | 03:42 |
| freemangordon | etc. I guess you'll need some time to get familiar with all the stuff | 03:42 |
| freemangordon | I think it is better here | 03:51 |
| FatPhil | sb-menu! | 03:53 |
| freemangordon | yep, jus setup a fremantle-armel target | 03:54 |
| freemangordon | or use SDK VMWare image, it has everythig in place | 03:54 |
| freemangordon | shit | 03:54 |
| freemangordon | everything | 03:54 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: it is 4:00 here, I am going to have some sleep :) | 03:59 |
| FatPhil | 4am here too! | 03:59 |
| FatPhil | Not sure I trust VMWare. Last time I tried to get it working, it didn't even begin to pretend to start working. | 04:00 |
| freemangordon | well, it works just fine here, windoze XP :P | 04:00 |
| freemangordon | anyway, night | 04:00 |
| FatPhil | I think I'll disable myt 8am alarm... | 04:18 |
| FatPhil | having a dayjob sucks... | 04:19 |
| freemangordon | yeah, anyway you won't hear it :) | 04:19 |
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| ShadowJK | Sdk vmware imae also works in qemu | 05:44 |
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| FatPhil | the problem with all the virtual machine solutions is that my development machine is a very old low-grunt laptop. | 10:24 |
| freemangordon | FatPhil: morning | 10:24 |
| FatPhil | morning | 10:24 |
| freemangordon | "under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the"yay | 10:29 |
| freemangordon | :D | 10:29 |
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