| sixwheeledbeast | can anybody tell me or point me to the changes to boot time in CSSU-T since 7.2. I have had a number of reports of stripping swap on start up. Has rcS-late changed? | 00:03 |
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| Raimu | I bet it has redone rcS-late and altered the fstabbing habits. | 00:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it seems this way. Updating to T8.2 on test device to try an reproduce. | 01:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It's uninstalled lock-applet... grr | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, but you can simply install it again | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, T8.x massively changed stuff in fstab and iirc changed rcS* for that. And it seems this change hasn't been sufficiently QA tested against all relevant possible system configs we're facing out there, heck not even against removing uSD card originally | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess a lot of the reswap and whatnot-swap packages will conflict with this fstab patch, as well as most if not all of customized filesystems and/or partitioning | 01:43 |
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| Raimu | For me it was a matter of rewriting "ext4" into a bunch of places again and rewriting in some of the swap-specific things I'd added on my own. | 01:55 |
| Raimu | From what I gather it should be easier from now on to keep those customized parts intact as long as those packages get an update. | 01:56 |
| Raimu | Not that I'm assuming they necessarily will. | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it sounds like a solution to the problem it creates | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as in "next time you'll not have this problem again, you got this time caused by the solution getting implemented" | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like a surgery that ensues 4 weeks in hospital, with the purpose to allow future operations on the very same issue will only need 1..2 weeks | 02:07 |
| Raimu | *laugh* | 02:07 |
| Raimu | Yeah... | 02:07 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 ponders cancellation insurance cancellation insurance | 02:12 | |
| Raimu | Like, if you're insured for the situation that your insurance for the cancellation fees is itself canceled? | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, for the situation when you want to cancel your cancellation fee insurance | 02:14 |
| Raimu | It's sad how insurance companies like making insurance getting a ridiculous game. | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you buy it, it will ensure you against costs to get rid of it | 02:15 |
| Raimu | Haha. | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but of course only when you paid it | 02:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | solution to the generic immanent problem, self referential | 02:18 |
| Raimu | :) | 02:19 |
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| Raimu | Night o/ | 02:20 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: freemangordon ping | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: pong | 14:17 |
| Pali | merlin1991: pong | 14:17 |
| merlin1991 | since we don't want to stop freemangordon from celebrating his birthday I guess we can move the meeting to tomorrow? | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: well, I am busy tomorrow | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | so lets make it today, I 'll participate as much as I can | 14:19 |
| merlin1991 | I'd rather pick a day you can fully participate since a lot of the points were brought in by you | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: not exactly, kcssu, glibc and bug triaging are not exactly mine | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | but ok | 14:21 |
| merlin1991 | hrmpfh, my sisters n900 went down with a broken usb port | 14:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: Happy Birthday :D | 14:23 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon, Pali so whatabout the rest of the week (starting with friday) when can you be around? | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | saturday? | 14:24 |
| Pali | I will be without internet connection from friday to monday | 14:24 |
| merlin1991 | we do have a great sense of timing, don't we? | 14:25 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:32 |
| merlin1991 | I guess the best option is today then | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 14:32 |
| merlin1991 | ah well :/ | 14:32 |
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| Drathir | freemangordon: happy birthday from me too... | 15:41 |
| Drathir | merlin1991: any chance to fix usb? | 15:42 |
| merlin1991 | I'm going to solder in a new usb port | 15:42 |
| Drathir | merlin1991: can i ask about price that new one ? or only avaible take off fron other n900? | 15:43 |
| merlin1991 | 2,8$ for a set of 20 :D | 15:44 |
| merlin1991 | http://dx.com/p/diy-micro-usb-5-pin-female-smt-socket-connector-silver-20-piece-pack-134132 | 15:44 |
| merlin1991 | hm, I'm going mental here, the friggin microsd / lightsensor pcb won't go off | 15:52 |
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| merlin1991 | ah ffs it's just wayyyy too strong flue | 15:55 |
| merlin1991 | *glue* | 15:55 |
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| Drathir | merlin1991: go inside n900 si veru hard? | 16:42 |
| Drathir | is* | 16:42 |
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| merlin1991 | not really | 17:04 |
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| Drathir | merlin1991: /me need too little improve my usb port to but n900 is my main and not yet before try go inside... | 17:30 |
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| Drathir | improve mean try to better fit port size because i think for all this time using of become little bigger than before... | 17:32 |
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| Pali | merlin1991: is meeting today? | 21:40 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: yes | 22:00 |
| Pali | freemangordon: ok, when? | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | in 10 seconds from now :D | 22:00 |
| Pali | ok :-) | 22:00 |
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| * merlin1991 is here now | 22:08 | |
| merlin1991 | sorry for the delay, I just got home | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: arcean Pali ping | 22:09 |
| Pali | merlin1991: pong | 22:09 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: pong | 22:09 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: did you mail luf? | 22:11 |
| arcean | hi | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: hi :) | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | arcean: hi | 22:11 |
| arcean | freemangordon: happy birthday :) | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: luf said he has about no time this week and will read the backlog | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ok | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | also yep happy birthday :) | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | arcean: thanks | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: shall we start? | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | I guess we're all here | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | yep looks like, so step 1 gathering of topics | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | I've got "new" packages and the maintainer situation | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | from here: KCSSU, glibc and... umm... | 22:13 |
| * freemangordon tries to rmrmber the 3rd thing | 22:13 | |
| freemangordon | *remember | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | <freemangordon> merlin1991: kernel-cssu, glibc and h-d bug. also a little of bug triaging will be good to be done | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | ok, h-d bug seems to be fixed | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | so from me it is KCSSU and glibc | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what is the situation with PA and the missing sounds? | 22:15 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW is chem|st aware there is a meeting? | 22:16 |
| merlin1991 | uh I just thought of him myself | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | :( | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: seems Pali is quit today, so lets add e2fsprogs and upstart to the agenda | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | *quiet | 22:17 |
| Pali | what is with PA? hm I do not know | 22:17 |
| Pali | I tried to remove both nokia and our patch for decreasing memory allocation size | 22:17 |
| Pali | and for some users it helped and for some not... | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what is the status, did you find whic is the broken versiona nd what breaks it? | 22:18 |
| Pali | need to look at it | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: could it be my backported patch the problem? | 22:18 |
| Pali | problem is that I have no problems with ringing or any other sound | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: me neither | 22:18 |
| Pali | so in next days, I will compile all cssu versions and upload it to server | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | and PA with all that patches is in CSSU-thumb since forever | 22:18 |
| Pali | so TMO users can check which version working and which not | 22:19 |
| Pali | and then we can look at patches between working --> non working versions | 22:19 |
| freemangordon | Pali: :nod: | 22:19 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: they are still in the repo: | 22:19 |
| merlin1991 | http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/p/pulseaudio/ | 22:19 |
| Pali | ok, better then | 22:19 |
| merlin1991 | hm actually there are only 2 we ever released | 22:20 |
| Pali | but not all versions | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I see only cssu1 and cssu4 | 22:20 |
| Pali | only cssu1 and cssu4 | 22:20 |
| Pali | cssu3 is already on my website | 22:20 |
| Pali | and I will compile also cssu2 | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | I just checked we only ever updated pulse twice | 22:20 |
| Pali | on my website is also version with removed memory patches | 22:20 |
| merlin1991 | in T6 and in T8 | 22:20 |
| Pali | yes, but there are more commits in git | 22:21 |
| Pali | and need to know which commit/patch broke PA | 22:21 |
| merlin1991 | ah I thought you meant all released versions, not all versions in the git history | 22:21 |
| Pali | cssu1 working cssu3 not | 22:21 |
| merlin1991 | now it makes sense | 22:21 |
| Pali | this wrote TMO people | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | Pali: merlin1991: I still don;t get it why there is no single report for PA in cssu-thumb | 22:21 |
| Pali | maybe because thumb version using less memory? | 22:22 |
| Pali | I bet that memory alocation is problem | 22:22 |
| Pali | look at PA in network mode | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | Pali: come on, the difference in the binary size could not be the problem | 22:22 |
| Pali | if memory block is too smal (defaul in PR1.3) it show lot of errors and sound is bad | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | Pali: 0.9.15-1maemo44+0m5+0cssu4+thumb0 is in cssu-thumb for ages | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: we could possibly be looking at a bug in gcc | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | yep | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | but lets first root out after which patch it goes bad | 22:23 |
| Pali | maybe PA using some other strategy and looking for RAM usage? | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | because even if it is gcc that is going bad we still have to find which bit makes it do that :D | 22:24 |
| Pali | or compiler behaviour? (not bug, but gcc 4.7 can do some optimalization and some code can be compiled differently) | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: by default PA is compiled with auto vectorization enabled :( | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | -ffast-math too | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | ok, agreed | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | ooh, and -O3 | 22:24 |
| Pali | fast math is option which tell GCC that floting point sum is comutative and asociative? | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | we hit that -O3 with Qt already | 22:25 |
| Pali | if yes, this could be funny with sound files :-) | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | Pali: could you build -O0 versions too? | 22:25 |
| Pali | I can try | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | IIRC DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt | 22:25 |
| Pali | but do not know if it will be easy or not... | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | not sure if PA looks for that | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | yep it has ifneq (,$(findstring noopt,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) \ CFLAGS += -O0 -rdynamic -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mapcs-frame | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | :) | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | toldya | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | :P | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ooh, DocScrutinizer05 thinks sending PA logs to syslog is a bad idea, lets append that to the queue. If he is here to motivate his point | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: shall we continue with KCSSU | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | ? | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | and glibc, as these are related somehow | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | I've got a bigger point first | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | maintaininer(s) | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | of what? | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | cssu, and also give me asecond to write .) | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | :) | 22:29 |
| * freemangordon hands merlin1991 a second | 22:30 | |
| merlin1991 | I'm currently (err rather the past months) swamped with stuff todo and have been mostly inactive regarding cssu activity, up to the point where I've got valid complaints, so I'm throwing the position out there if anyone thinks he/she can do a better job | 22:30 |
| merlin1991 | I'm happy to keep going, but it will be a rather slow pace | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | thoughts, slaps on the back, outrage? | 22:33 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I'd rather say keep it going, as (as I see it) it is only me and Pali who qualify fot the job (besides you). You know what will happen if I become maintainer of CSSU, so I prefer to not be ;) | 22:33 |
| freemangordon | *for | 22:33 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: besides the lack of time, are there any other reasons? | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | lack of time simply | 22:35 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: also, do you expect you'll have time someday? | 22:35 |
| merlin1991 | spring next year things will normalize for me :/ | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | ooh :( | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | Pali: here? | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | arcean: here? | 22:36 |
| Pali | here | 22:36 |
| arcean | here | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | good :). what do you think? | 22:36 |
| arcean | slow pace should be enough, of course if it's not a problem for merlin1991 | 22:38 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: arcean: Pali: lets decide that we'll pester merlin only when we think there is enough material for new -T, along with the list of what have to be included. is that sound ok? | 22:40 |
| freemangordon | does even :) | 22:41 |
| Pali | ok | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | nah pester me whenever you feel like it | 22:41 |
| Pali | I will prepare new enabler | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | the earlier you pester the earlier I can react :D | 22:41 |
| Pali | and when it will be ready I will ping | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: but please, if you feel MAG way someday, make it clear :) | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: what about repos? | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | *the repos | 22:44 |
| merlin1991 | apart from getting autobuilder to work again repos are low maintainance | 22:44 |
| merlin1991 | and I hope I can finally tackle that this weekend | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | yeah, the autobuild | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | good | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | next point? | 22:45 |
| Pali | PG key was updated :-) so I belive all current CSSU will update to that version til october | 22:45 |
| Pali | *GPG | 22:45 |
| merlin1991 | last saturday turned against all initial plans into a day of dead sleeping :/ | 22:45 |
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| merlin1991 | next point is kcssu I guess | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | Pali: is it in CSSU-S too? | 22:45 |
| Pali | yes | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | fine | 22:46 |
| merlin1991 | yep chem|st pushed the modest and the enabler update out | 22:46 |
| Pali | problem with CSSU GPG key already fixed | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:46 |
| Pali | problem with Nokia GPG key is WONTFIX | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | well, we stll can try fmtx-enabler hack | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | *still | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | ok, kcssu | 22:47 |
| Pali | if maemo infra has space + has permission for mirror downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle, I can create new GPG key, resign repo and add this key to CSSU | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | Pali: hmm, the solition would be to replace that key | 22:48 |
| Pali | yes | 22:48 |
| Pali | but automatically will work only for CSSU users | 22:48 |
| freemangordon | Pali: we can at least try fmtx trick, to see if it will work | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | autobuilder: http://privatepaste.com/145b0770c3 | 22:48 |
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| Pali | what is it? | 22:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we need somebody to look into all this mess, or it will go down eventually | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: <merlin1991> and I hope I can finally tackle that this weekend | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | ok, KCSSU | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you merged KP52, ain't? | 22:49 |
| Pali | do not remember | 22:50 |
| Pali | going to look | 22:50 |
| Pali | yes, kp52 is merged into kernel repo in cssu gitorious | 22:51 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do we need anything else here http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_kernel_assess assessed? | 22:52 |
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| freemangordon | sorry, I just can;t remember :) | 22:52 |
| Pali | white patches | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | ah, yes | 22:53 |
| Pali | only red & greed are decided to not include or include | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | Pali: is that table updated with stuff from KP52? | 22:53 |
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| Pali | yes: 18:26, 24. jan 2013 pali (updated patches list to match kp52 version) | 22:54 |
| Pali | at least wiki history saying that | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I guess fixing glibc repo problem will happen (hopefully) during the weekend, correct? | 22:55 |
| merlin1991 | hopefully | 22:55 |
| merlin1991 | but it's going to be fun to find | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ok. how are you with your free time tomorrow? | 22:55 |
| Pali | maybe, probably not | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | Friday? | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | I mean during the day, not in the evening | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | Pali said he has no internet friday<>monday | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | oh, yes | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ok, I'll try to fill whatever I can tomorrow, will pester you for the rest | 22:57 |
| Pali | lot of patches has already Y or N (but do not have colored lines) | 22:57 |
| freemangordon | yes | 22:58 |
| Pali | patches like nilfs only adding new drivers (in ko modules) | 22:58 |
| Pali | this only increasing size nothing more (no autoload unless user using nilfs on SD card) | 22:58 |
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| freemangordon | iirc we already decided that .kos are Y by default | 22:59 |
| Pali | and need to decide if we include 1) battery drivers, 2) overlock support 3) hostmode support | 22:59 |
| Pali | I think 1) should be NO | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | 1 is no :) | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | 2 should be fine | 22:59 |
| freemangordon | as it is disabled by default | 23:00 |
| freemangordon | not sure about 3 | 23:00 |
| Pali | there is comment for 2) OC patches break powertop | 23:00 |
| freemangordon | but If 3 depends on 1, it should be No too | 23:00 |
| Pali | also when OC is disabled? | 23:00 |
| freemangordon | Pali: it is disabled by default if I got your question right | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you need to explicitly enable it | 23:01 |
| Pali | I'm thinking about 3)... | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: oh, 3 does not depend on 1 | 23:01 |
| Pali | I think that hostmode will work also without kernel charger drivers | 23:01 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:01 |
| Pali | but then needs userspace charger driver :D | 23:02 |
| Pali | eg booston | 23:02 |
| Pali | so my hostmode package with menu will not work | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | Pali: does not matter, as it (hostmode) is disabled by default too | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | Pali: there is KP for that :) | 23:03 |
| Pali | yes it is disabled when you boot kernel :-) | 23:03 |
| freemangordon | hmm... | 23:03 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: arcean: what about 3? | 23:03 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: what do you think? :D | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yeah | 23:04 |
| merlin1991 | tbh, if I go hostmode, I use palis menu which seems to depend on the battery drivers? so then no | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: no | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | afaik Pali's menu depends on KP | 23:04 |
| Pali | no | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 23:05 |
| Pali | menu depends on some kernel which provides hostmode and charger kernel drivers | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | .. | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | Pali: well, ok :D | 23:05 |
| Pali | we can provide charger/battery drivers in separate DEB pacakge | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: the original hostmode UI does not depend on charging drivers | 23:05 |
| Pali | hm, right | 23:06 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: yea, but the original ui is far from a reason to include it in cssu | 23:06 |
| Pali | original MAG's hostmode UI working fine | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | Pali: lets disable it for now | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | (3 that is) | 23:06 |
| Pali | so that UI can work with possible included hostmode patches in CSSU | 23:06 |
| Pali | ok | 23:06 |
| Pali | so disable charger/battery drivers and hostmode | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: those who have that UI are already in KP | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | s/in/on/ | 23:07 |
| Pali | and enable overclock patches? or not? | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | btw Pali how far did you get with upstreaming those patches? | 23:07 |
| Pali | battery patches? | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 23:07 |
| Pali | or charger? | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | both | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | I think battery you got upstream iirc | 23:08 |
| Pali | battery patches was all upstream (expect that one which exporting register file in sysfs) | 23:08 |
| Pali | also rx51_battery patch is upstreamed (that for temperature and design capacity) | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you want to disable hostmode, you have to disable SR and OC by same rationale | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: | 23:08 |
| Pali | bq2415x_charger is upstream, but platform data not | 23:08 |
| Pali | platform data depends on some changes in isp1704 and musb driver | 23:09 |
| Pali | but today I finished that patches and I will send it to ML for upstreaming | 23:09 |
| freemangordon | oooh, nice :D | 23:09 |
| Pali | also I refactored arm errata patch for thumb2 isa | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I guess we can include them in CSSU , along with hostmode and OC once they are upstreamed | 23:10 |
| Pali | (moved all secure code to one file as maintainers wanted) | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you're my hero :D | 23:10 |
| Pali | freemangordon: please look at this patch: https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900/commit/10d633415878cb5bb8e5b11b8cf9349e5f15937b | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | Pali: so, 1,2 and 3 disabled. for now | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | agree? | 23:12 |
| Pali | and this: https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/linux-n900/commit/f58f12560ae21397493e6e102ce4a7248b81c255 | 23:12 |
| Pali | ok, disabled 1 2 and 3 | 23:12 |
| Pali | for now | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I still have birthday, will look tomorrow :P | 23:12 |
| Pali | ok you have also weekend :-ň | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 23:13 |
| Pali | I wrote to #maemo-alternatives I pushed new patches on top of 3.10 kernel | 23:13 |
| Pali | today | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | ok, based on ^^^ I'll try to fill that table | 23:13 |
| Pali | ok | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | once we have eveything (KCSSU and glibc) in place, we'll pester merlin for a new update, including kcssu, glibc, e2fsprogs, h-d and upstart | 23:14 |
| freemangordon | and maybe PA | 23:15 |
| Pali | and new enabler? | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | oh, yes | 23:15 |
| Pali | ok | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | Pali: hmm | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | we need some kernel detection, so we won;t overwrite KP/kcssu-thumb | 23:15 |
| Pali | "We need info from Luke-Jr why ans if this patch is really needed" | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | does yours work? | 23:16 |
| Pali | yes, it working | 23:16 |
| Pali | also working for u-boot | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | Pali: sure? as when I installed u-boot it was unable to detect my kernel :P | 23:16 |
| Pali | I think that u-boot-flasher already depends on package where is detector | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | I was on kernel-cssu3 | 23:17 |
| Pali | there is one problem with memory allocation | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | btw for a new release we have an old pull request for calendar-backend | 23:17 |
| Pali | for some reason sometimes kernel refuse malloc(2MB) | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | Pali: malloc? in kernel? | 23:17 |
| Pali | and then detect application cannot unpack kernel zImage | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: which one? | 23:17 |
| Pali | no in userspace | 23:17 |
| Pali | malloc returns NULL | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | hmm, well, just retry it :P | 23:17 |
| Pali | and kernel in dmesg wrote that *some nokia kernel patch* refused allocation because of some limits | 23:18 |
| merlin1991 | yeah a while $pointer == NULL is probably a good idea ;) | 23:18 |
| Pali | that limits are set at last lines in rcS-late | 23:18 |
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| Pali | I will try something | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do we need the whole kernel extracted? | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | uncompressed that is | 23:19 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/calendar-backend/merge_requests/1 I have no idea about the other one | 23:19 |
| Pali | because /dev/mtd* is character device, full mtd(kernel) must be read from mtd to memory | 23:19 |
| Pali | and mtd(kernel) is 2MB | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | aah, mmap does not work :( | 23:20 |
| Pali | unpacking with libz is on the fly with some buffer on stack | 23:20 |
| Pali | and mmap does not working -> yes | 23:20 |
| Pali | mmap working on /dev/mtd in some upstream 3.x kernels | 23:20 |
| Pali | I already played with this | 23:20 |
| freemangordon | irrelevant :P | 23:20 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: well, do something about it, we need kernel detection | 23:21 |
| Pali | I will try to look at those nokia patches in kernel how to force kernel to allocate 2MB connected memory | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | we should overwrite *ONLY* stock kernel | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | connected? | 23:21 |
| Pali | maybe there is some ulimit/restriction when running that process dpkg/apt/HAM? | 23:21 |
| freemangordon | you mean linear? | 23:22 |
| Pali | yeah, linear | 23:22 |
| freemangordon | ooh, but wy do you need it like that? | 23:22 |
| Pali | without holes :D | 23:22 |
| Pali | because it is hard to write it... | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I am facing similar problems with bc-cat, kernel sometimes refuse to alloc_pages_exact for something like 384K | 23:23 |
| Pali | and what to do whit that luke-jr patch? (yellow color) | 23:23 |
| Pali | freemangordon: alloc_pages in dmes? | 23:23 |
| Pali | *dmesg | 23:23 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:23 |
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| Pali | so this is same problem | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I don't think it is Nokia to blame, you're just under memory pressure | 23:24 |
| freemangordon | Pali: but why do you need linear RAM? | 23:25 |
| Pali | and it is not possible to swap something? | 23:25 |
| Pali | because of libz | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | Pali: maybe if you try to flush fs cache and retry after that | 23:25 |
| Pali | will try | 23:26 |
| freemangordon | Pali: but the only remedy I can think of is retrying | 23:26 |
| Pali | sleep for 1s and try again | 23:27 |
| Pali | and after 10 fails return no version | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | Pali: flush fs caches, sleep for 1s and retry | 23:27 |
| Pali | now when malloc fail returning no version | 23:27 |
| Pali | ok | 23:27 |
| Pali | how to flush fs caches? sync(); ? | 23:28 |
| freemangordon | Pali: /proc/sys/vm... | 23:28 |
| freemangordon | or whatever it was | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | Pali: sync flushes the cache, but does not free it | 23:29 |
| Pali | man 2 sync: sync, syncfs - commit buffer cache to disk | 23:29 |
| Pali | sync() causes all buffered modifications to file metadata and data to be written to the underlying file systems. | 23:29 |
| Pali | sync() is always successful. | 23:29 |
| freemangordon | Pali: but it does not free the caches | 23:30 |
| Pali | hm, how to do that? | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | echo "3" > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches | 23:30 |
| Pali | ok | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | not sure about "3" google for it | 23:30 |
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| freemangordon | ok, guys, gtg | 23:31 |
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| Pali | any other point? | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | have 30 more minutes to celebrate my birthday :) | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | hf ! | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | Pali: none I am aware of | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | ~hf | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | *have fun* | 23:32 |
| Pali | ok, then I'm going offline | 23:32 |
| freemangordon | aah :). thanks, night | 23:32 |
| Pali | bye | 23:32 |
| Pali | :-) | 23:32 |
| merlin1991 | night everyone | 23:32 |
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