IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2012-12-20

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lufanyone want to test new libpng before I upload it to cssu-devel?00:54
lufmerlin1991: ping00:55
merlin1991 luf pong00:55
lufmerlin1991: do you want to create git cssu repo for the new upstream source?00:55
merlin1991we should have a libpng repo already01:00
lufOk, I'll check.01:02
lufNothing like that.01:03
lufmerlin1991: please create one or point me to the existing one as I can't see it.01:13
lufmerlin1991: ping01:26
lufmerlin1991: I made a mistake in uploading to cssu-devel. Can you take a look?01:28
lufThanks.01:28
merlin1991let me have a look01:28
merlin1991did you upload twice the same version but from a different build?01:29
lufI uploaded _source.changes :(01:29
lufYes01:29
merlin1991that doesn#t work01:29
merlin1991let me fix that :)01:30
lufThanks.01:30
merlin1991new set is imported01:31
merlin1991do you have a git repo locally?01:31
merlin1991I'll do the gitorious one tomorrow01:31
lufNo.01:31
lufI used package from maemo and new one from debian wheezy.01:31
lufOk. Thanks. I'll upload it tomorrow on the day after tomorrow.01:32
lufmerlin1991: I think you can update the notice for the bug ;)01:36
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freemangordonluf: ping09:44
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keriowhy is connui-home-cellular/operator-name-cbs-widget still not in testing at least?11:22
kerios/still/3.2 still/11:22
infobotkerio meant: why is connui-home-cellular/operator-name-cbs-widget 3.2 still not in testing at least?11:22
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keriomerlin1991: see above12:10
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luffreemangordon: pong12:35
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freemangordonluf: isn't it better to have libpng sources on gitorious?14:23
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tadzikwhere can I find some docs on how to make my qt app rotate?14:52
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tadzikok, figured out in OMP sources. Maybe I should add it to some dev guide14:56
arceantadzik: http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt-maemo/maemo5-rotation.html14:57
DocScrutinizer05seems the guys discussed borkedness in exactly this just yesterday ?15:00
DocScrutinizer05arcean: isn't qt brainfsckd regarding kbd input as well as rotation?15:01
arceanyes and yes :)15:01
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: no, we were discussing the underlying code15:02
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DocScrutinizer05is there a concept to santitize that crap already?15:03
DocScrutinizer05sanitize*15:03
DocScrutinizer05seems at least for kbd input it's not exactly trivial15:04
DocScrutinizer05for rotation / orientation aka hw-orientation / user-orientation aka "rotation of user's eye-horizon-line versus display's X-axis"  we discussed this several times15:09
DocScrutinizer05the conclusion IIRC been that mce delivers hw-orientation whhich is useless for the yet-to-be-implemented user-orientation. the latter needing a orientation-lock hw switch or sth like that as well15:11
DocScrutinizer05while hw-orientation as delivered by mce MUST NOT get locked15:11
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DocScrutinizer05aiui right now aspect-ratio of X11 is our user-oreintation15:12
DocScrutinizer05which makes pretty much sense in my book15:13
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: any comments? I love to learn, so correct me when due, please15:14
freemangordonmy impression is that it was agreed that Qt should listen to h-d dbus signals - the new API made by arcean15:16
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ^^^15:16
DocScrutinizer05hmmm, nothing wrong with dbus-signals from HD15:16
DocScrutinizer05as long as we agree on this API for user.orientation15:17
kerioprogram writers won't have to care about that, right? this is a toolkit thing15:18
DocScrutinizer05but isn't it right now like "in landscape X:800,Y:480; in portrait X:480,Y:800" ?15:18
DocScrutinizer05kerio: basically it should, yes15:18
keriohm, what about other resolutions?15:19
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I gather X11 is sending a resize notification X11-msg when aspect  ratio of display changed15:19
keriowould current programs handle that?15:19
DocScrutinizer05kerio: iirc the standard method right now is to check which of X,Y is the larger one, and based on that rotate your display15:20
kerioi see15:21
DocScrutinizer05so this is basically agnostic of particular resolutions15:21
luffreemangordon: sure it is. Please take a look into logs ;) [01:31] merlin1991: I'll do the gitorious one tomorrow15:21
kerioDocScrutinizer05: i was going to say something about square displays, but then i realized that they wouldn't cause any problems anyway15:21
keriodoes the X11 screen *become* 480x800 when it's in portrait?15:22
luffreemangordon: however the change is only "merge" maemo and debian build direcotry (mainly form maemo). And for sure I'll upload it once I have the gitorious repo for it.15:23
DocScrutinizer05kerio: that's how I understood it works15:25
DocScrutinizer05you're sending usual X-rendering commands and HD cares about placing the resulting graphics or chars on screen aka into video buffer on correct position and in right orientation15:26
keriooh right, window managers15:27
DocScrutinizer05will have issues with direct framebuffer acces, like with video playing15:27
DocScrutinizer05but we probably don't want video to get rotated anyway15:27
DocScrutinizer05at least not unconditionally15:27
DocScrutinizer05so bottom line (aiui): X11 does the whole rotation, app just cares about handling the chaged layout when aspect ratio changes15:29
DocScrutinizer05changed*15:29
DocScrutinizer05the app notices changes in aspect ratio by a X-message sent by HD15:29
DocScrutinizer05it then queries X11/HD about current actual aspect ratio & resolution, and re-renders display content accordingly15:30
DocScrutinizer05that's how stuff works in my naive ideal world ;-)15:31
DocScrutinizer05awaiting bashing from those who know the gory details of RL implementation15:31
tadzikarcean: are you aware of any application available which successfully uses QGestures?15:33
DocScrutinizer05kerio: obviously X11/HD - when in portrait - has to not only change the aspect ratio and rotate the rendering to framebuffer, but also the HID coords which aiui are relative to X11 X:0,Y:0 have to get changed to meet the new coordinates of the screen (swap X and Y, possibly rescale)15:39
DocScrutinizer05otherwise rotating arbitrary app to portrait would result in pointer device acting completely weird, like recently I've seen on a windows machine that previously been attached to a portrait screen - I had to rotate the mouse by 90° or it was impossible to handle this sitaution15:42
DocScrutinizer05ooh, talking about it, this applies to touchscreen digitizer only, while obviously any external mouse probably shouldn't get rotated/swapped-X/Y15:44
DocScrutinizer05since for all usecases you're supposed to change orientation 'angle' between display and mouse/pointerdevice when switching N900 to portrait15:45
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DocScrutinizer05IOW when you rotate the N900 90° clockwise and thus it enters portrait display, you already rotated mouse in relation to display15:47
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DocScrutinizer05so moving mouse direction X+ already corresponds to pointer on screen shall move current X in positive direction15:48
DocScrutinizer05just for touchscreen digitizer the former Y is now X15:48
DocScrutinizer05since you rotated device15:48
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freemangordonluf: what happens with OMP and libpng? segfault?16:08
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luffreemangordon: yes.17:28
freemangordonluf: any backtrace?17:29
lufI'm sorry I had no time to investigate it. I'll try now.17:29
freemangordonaah, ok17:29
luffreemangordon: problem in libQtGui.so.417:37
lufBut the root cause is somewhere in calling libpng from qt.17:37
freemangordonABI change?17:37
lufI tried to check and see no change.17:38
lufBut I should be wrong.17:38
freemangordonbacktrace?17:38
lufshows just the Qt part.17:38
freemangordonwhy?17:38
freemangordoninstall -dbg symbols17:39
lufaah I maybe don't have -dbg for qt. MMNT17:39
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freemangordonluf: make sure you symlinked in /opt before installing qt dbg symbols17:40
freemangordonyou'll run out of rootfs space otherwise17:40
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lufWhat should I symlink to /opt?17:41
freemangordon"/"usr/lib/debug17:42
freemangordonthe fuck17:42
freemangordon"/usr/lib/debug"17:42
freemangordonmove that in /opt and symlink back17:42
lufI understand what is simlink to /opt ;) I didn't know the source ...17:43
freemangordon:P17:43
lufThanks for help in all cases.17:43
lufHave you find the reason for bug in tklock?17:45
freemangordonluf: yes17:46
lufshare ;)17:47
lufStrange was for me that I compiled it two times with same source and it returns me 2 differeng debs.17:50
lufbacktrase is still the same.17:51
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freemangordonluf: would you pastebin it, maybe i could help18:37
merlin1991okay step #1 libpng18:40
merlin1991kerio: new opername isn#t in -testing because we still have a few bug reports against it18:43
lufIt seems it fails in some files during their loading ... (from strace).18:44
lufStrange.18:44
merlin1991luf: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libpng18:44
lufmerlin1991: thanks.18:45
luffreemangordon: http://pastebin.com/SyJucPqM18:49
freemangordonluf: ever heard of "bt" gdb command?18:49
lufI'm sorry I forget to fire it :)18:52
freemangordon:)18:52
lufhttp://pastebin.com/hnYMvqBX18:54
lufI tried to recompile libpng from maemo and it's ok.18:54
freemangordonluf: you are missing the debug symbols :(. gimme a minute, i'll (try to) give them to you18:55
freemangordonthe paths that is18:55
lufSo the problem is in the new version :( I have to leave now. I'll investigate it later.18:55
luffreemangordon: I installed -dbg for qt4-gui qt4-core and qt4-opengl18:56
freemangordonluf: /opt/lib/debug/usr/lib18:56
freemangordonlibQtGui.so.4.7.4 (symbols) should go there, assuming your /usr/lib/debug is symlinked to /opt/lib/debug18:56
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lufYes, it's correct.19:05
freemangordonluf: well, for some reason gdb cannot fin it19:06
freemangordon*find19:06
freemangordonluf: did you restart gdb after installing -dbg symbols?19:06
lufsure :)19:07
freemangordonPali: ping19:08
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merlin1991damn20:38
merlin1991is there any easy to use dhcp client on the n900?20:38
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freemangordonmerlin1991: when will be the new -testing?20:43
keriomerlin1991: what do you mean?20:43
kerioto do what?20:43
merlin1991kerio: get dns and ip and gateway over dhcp over usb20:48
merlin1991but mad-developer managed to finally do it20:48
merlin1991after a reboot20:48
merlin1991freemangordon: either torrow or on saturday20:49
keriomerlin1991: just use ICD220:49
keriolibicd-network-usb20:49
merlin1991and how do i tell it to do what I want?20:50
freemangordonmerlin1991: great, As I have the feeling -thumb users will lynch me if I delay the new -thumb any longer :D20:50
kerioindeed20:51
keriodoes that mean that you'll just skip the current testing?20:51
merlin1991arf /me hates ham20:51
keriomerlin1991: well, it uses DHCP by default, you just tap "USB network"20:51
freemangordonkerio: skip? well, it can be said that way either20:52
merlin1991kerio: does not show up in the connections list20:59
keriomerlin1991: you need to do the magical rituals20:59
merlin1991...21:00
kerioaka follow what's been shown in postinst21:00
merlin1991been there21:00
merlin1991done that21:00
keriohm21:00
keriois g_ether/g_nokia loaded?21:00
merlin1991pcsuite-enable and it works :)21:02
merlin1991no dhcp though!21:03
keriohuh?21:03
kerioicd does dhcp21:03
merlin1991ah damn, no pc-suite drivers on the win box21:03
merlin1991FUUUUUU21:03
merlin1991is there a script to load g_ether?21:04
keriodisable pcsuite, modprobe g_ether21:04
keriowell21:04
keriodisable pcsuite, modprobe -r g_nokia, modprobe g_ether21:04
merlin1991fatal: module g_ether not found21:08
merlin1991is it fucking kidding me?21:08
keriooh lol21:08
keriono KP?21:08
Palicall /usr/sbin/*pcsuite*disable for disabling pcsuite mode21:08
merlin1991I do have the stuff installed21:08
merlin1991but base kernel21:08
Paliand there is also script for disbling mass storage21:09
merlin1991Pali: I never found that one21:09
Palig_ether is only in KP21:09
merlin1991how's it called?21:09
kerioi don't think there's g_ether for omap121:09
merlin1991kerio: there is it's in usb-networkign-modules or somehting package21:09
merlin1991but that one does not call depmod -a21:09
merlin1991hence modprobe is fubar21:09
Palimerlin1991: sudo /usr/sbin/pcsuite-disable.sh21:09
merlin1991Pali: mass storage not pc suite21:09
keriothen i dunno21:09
keriomerlin1991: osso-usb-mass-storage-*21:09
Palisudo /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-disable.sh21:10
Palithere are also "-enable" scripts21:10
Paliand one important! : Always must be mass storage or pcsuite mode active!!!!21:10
Paliotherwise usb detection will not work!!!21:11
merlin1991Pali: you forgot to put some 111elf after those exclamation marks ;=21:11
keriousb detection also works with g_ether21:11
Palimerlin1991 ^^^ do not forget to enable pcsuite or mass storage again (after rmmod g_ether)21:11
keriosadly, it doesn't work with g_zero21:12
Palikerio, it should work with any proper gadget driver21:12
kerioat least, it doesn't let you charge with g_zero21:12
Palibut problematic can be maemo/HAL/ke-recv/someting state21:12
Paliwhich know only 2 modes: pcsuite and mass storage21:12
merlin1991hm I want to edit that usb dialog so I can do mass storage, pc-suite or usb-networking21:12
keriothe maemo scripts only expect g_nokia or g_file_storage to be loaded21:12
merlin1991next up, vnc server on the n90021:13
merlin1991any suggestions?21:13
keriomerlin1991: well, if you don't mind running phonet-at and softupd, you can just enable pc suite mode21:13
kerioand then start the connection from the connection dialog21:13
kerioor use pali's ke-recv patch to enable the usb connection silently - but then maemo apps won't know about it21:14
merlin1991I actually had to disable that, since I had the dnsmasq fun set xD21:14
kerioheh21:14
merlin1991the biggest problem with pc-suite is, that I didn't find the win drivers only for that yet21:14
kerioi don't think the windows drivers for g_nokia allow usb networking21:15
merlin1991the g_ether win side drivers I found in the qt-creator installer21:15
merlin1991though they really piss me off, because the bloody network adapter goes invisible when you detatch the usb cabl21:15
merlin1991anyway any suggestions for a vnc server?21:16
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freemangordonPali: any clue what TKLOCK_ONEINPUT is?21:19
freemangordonit is also known as "event eater"21:20
freemangordon"An EventEater window interrupts X pointer and key press events. On event received EventEater hides its window."21:20
freemangordonI don;t get it why is that needed in tklock :(21:20
PaliI did not know21:21
freemangordonbut mce wnats tklock to support it21:21
freemangordon*wants21:21
PaliI never see that21:21
freemangordonPali: where did you find tklock header?21:21
freemangordontklock-dbus-names.h21:22
freemangordonand this: http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-systemui/blobs/2279f94e003806174b61bda3b243267201b7f9a7/src/systemui/screenlock/eventeater.h is suprising21:22
freemangordon*surprising21:22
freemangordonwhy the hell screenlock in meego needs event eater in the same way as in maemo ?!?21:23
keriohrmpf, presencevnc has no way to disable the screen view and only send input21:26
freemangordonaah, the fuck, tklock_open is called with  TKLOCK_ONEINPUT when the screen is dimmed. Now I understand21:27
Palifreemangordon, tklock-dbus-names.h file is in harmattan mce on gitorious21:28
PaliI copied it from that repo21:28
freemangordonPali: see ^^^21:28
freemangordonaiui this is to stop interaction when mce dims the screen21:29
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merlin1991heh, now that I have the complete bt setup for luf ready he's gone21:51
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arceanif an application uses REQUEST_PORTRAIT flag (which means it only works in portrait mode or the user set explicitly portrait mode in settings) and the user opens hwkbd, should we stay in portrait?22:18
freemangordonarcean: no22:19
arceaneven if it will break app's layout?22:19
freemangordonarcean: you have n950, how it that possible you to ask such question :D22:19
freemangordonarcean: afaik there is no application that supports only portrait mode22:20
arceanmy n950 is heavily patched :P22:20
freemangordonirrelevant :P22:20
arceanso it works as n900 for me :P22:20
freemangordonlol22:20
arcean:D22:20
arceanevery system application works also in landscape with sane layout22:21
* freemangordon will have to do the same some day [/OT]22:21
freemangordonarcean: n900 was meant to be landskape device, every app supports landskape22:21
freemangordon*landscape22:22
keriorather, every app MUST support landscape22:22
freemangordon:nod:22:22
arceanfreemangordon: i have removed QtRotationManager and now every Qt-based app behaves like qtk/hildon based ones22:22
kerioarcean: :D :D :D22:22
freemangordonarcean: yo da man22:22
kerioarcean: can you also remove the qt input bullshit?22:22
arceanso the patch will be something like: -200 +5 ;D22:22
freemangordon:D:D:D22:22
freemangordonnice22:23
freemangordonarcean: well, you;d better #ifdef it22:23
arceankerio: not now, we have to tune h-d also (for new Qt)22:23
freemangordon:nod:22:23
freemangordonarcean: rotation manager xould be useful if there is no h-d22:24
freemangordon*would22:24
freemangordonor even better-leave the code, but export some global function/variable/whatever, so one to be able to enable it if needed22:25
freemangordondisable it by default22:25
freemangordonarcean: what do you use to detect rotation?22:26
arceanrelayout? it's handled by Qt itself22:27
freemangordonno, how is QDesktop::resized() generated22:27
freemangordon(or whatever the signal name was)22:28
freemangordonin other words - how Qt detects it is portraait mode22:28
arceanwindow is resized by window manager22:29
arceanand then the Qt fires relayout process22:29
freemangordonand you have gtkwidget::sizerequest event handler attached.22:30
freemangordonok, i'll se it in the code22:30
arceanthat's what goes to the bin: http://fpaste.org/HqBn/22:31
arceanall that stuff should be done only by hildon-desktop22:31
freemangordoni see22:32
arceanhmm wait22:33
arceanwithout h-d QMaemo5OrientationManager won't work22:33
freemangordonarcean: though i still think it is better to keep the code, just disable it by default22:33
arceanas all it does is mangling with _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT etc22:34
arceansure22:34
freemangordonyou mean if there is noone to care about _HILDON_... atom, that code is useless22:35
freemangordon?22:35
arceanpretty much22:35
freemangordonhmm...22:36
freemangordonmakes no sense to keep it then22:36
arceani'll place #ifdef Q_WS_MAEMO_5_OLD for now, to disable it22:36
freemangordonsounds good22:36
arceanand make it working with h-d22:37
freemangordonQ_WS_MAEMO_5_OLD_ROTATION?22:37
arceaneven better :)22:37
freemangordon:)22:37
freemangordonI really wonder why they did it that way. or stock h-d does not support portrait at all?22:38
freemangordonmakes no sense22:38
freemangordonthat implementation is 180 deg from what it should be22:39
arceanmaybe it was the same person who wrote tklock ;P22:39
freemangordonhehe22:39
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_ade_merlin1991: could you remove the latest libpng from cssu-devel if you have not already done so? Looks like it is giving more and more people trouble.23:03
kerio_ade_: D:23:10
_ade_kerio: I thought you where the tester here?23:10
kerioyeah but i've got the flu23:11
kerioand i've been playing ogame23:11
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merlin1991I've removed libpng from cssu-devel for now23:49
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