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| Raimu | Was the Hildon taskswitcher desaturation effect causing problems? It vanished at some point and I don't know if it was changed to be enablable by parameter or something. | 03:14 |
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| kerio | Raimu: you have to enable it afaik | 07:45 |
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| Lava_Croft | Raimu: blurless_saturation = 0 in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini | 09:48 |
| Lava_Croft | or 1, whatever | 09:48 |
| Raimu | Oh, I thought that setting was there much earlier and affects the popping-up background blurring. | 11:09 |
| Raimu | I meant the effect when you shut an application down the small window thumbnail in the task switcher goes monochrome. It's a recent effect. | 11:11 |
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| Raimu | Yeah, I can see it in CSSU T-maemo5 changelist as added: "Desaturate the window thumb when it's about to close" | 11:23 |
| Lava_Croft | aah | 11:25 |
| Lava_Croft | that | 11:25 |
| Raimu | Yeah. I doesn't seem to happen on later testing hildon-desktops anymore, on my n900 at least. I was wondering why. | 11:29 |
| Raimu | *It | 11:29 |
| Lava_Croft | Strange, no idea | 11:29 |
| merlin1991 | hm interesting find | 12:24 |
| merlin1991 | btw Raimu afaic the effect only works when you close the application in the taskswitcher | 12:25 |
| Raimu | Yup, but it stopped working. | 12:26 |
| merlin1991 | damn gitorious semi down | 12:27 |
| * merlin1991 wants to check if there is an option | 12:27 | |
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| merlin1991 | Raimu: there is a new option thumb_desaturation | 12:35 |
| merlin1991 | you have to set it to 1 and thanks to dpkg config handling it is only in /usr/share/hildon-desktop-tansitions.ini.dpkg-dist | 12:36 |
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| Raimu | Aha. | 12:53 |
| Raimu | Thanks for lookup. | 12:53 |
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| Raimu | Yeah, got it to work now. Thank you! | 13:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we definitely need a decent editor for all that stuff. One that can merge new options with existing setups from /usr/share/hildon-desktop-tansitions.ini | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I.E it needs to - at build time at least - automatically grep all the possible options out of the MHD sourcefiles that define them. Then - at runtime - set all those options to proper defaults, then read in hildon-desktop-tansitions.ini and override the internal option values of those that are defined in there. Then on "save" write a complete /usr/share/hildon-desktop-tansitions.ini with all the available options, and those that | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | were already defined in old hildon-desktop-tansitions.ini set to their old values | 15:14 |
| jon_y | perl? :) | 15:16 |
| tadzik | sounds like a job for a Perl Man | 15:16 |
| tadzik | or for a proper .ini library, and so any language around :) | 15:17 |
| tadzik | esp. since maemo runs on 5.8.6, which is ancient even by CentOS standards | 15:18 |
| jon_y | perl 5.8.6? | 15:18 |
| tadzik | yeah | 15:18 |
| jon_y | good enough for some regex matches | 15:19 |
| jon_y | and section markers | 15:19 |
| tadzik | if regex solution is what you're aiming at, then yeah | 15:20 |
| jon_y | we could go with json or xml :) | 15:20 |
| jon_y | or yaml | 15:20 |
| jon_y | or whatever flavor of the month serialize format | 15:20 |
| tadzik | doesn't it need to be .ini for hildon to understand it? | 15:21 |
| jon_y | does hildon have to use ini? | 15:22 |
| tadzik | heh, apparently Config-Tiny works even on 5.5.3 ;) | 15:22 |
| jon_y | well, just saying there are more sane things than using ini :) | 15:24 |
| tadzik | sure :) | 15:24 |
| tadzik | ini is quite nice for hand-editing on device though | 15:24 |
| jon_y | /^\s*\[(.*)\]\s*$/ <- I've kind of forgotten how normal people look at regex | 15:27 |
| tadzik | probably better written as /^\s*\[([^\]]*)\]\s*$/ :) | 15:28 |
| jon_y | [^\] <-? | 15:29 |
| tadzik | [^\]], character class of "anything but ]" | 15:29 |
| tadzik | saves you backtracking on section title | 15:29 |
| jon_y | oh | 15:29 |
| jon_y | heh | 15:29 |
| tadzik | which will probably be just one character, but... yeah ;) | 15:30 |
| luf | BTW why perl? Isn't python more supported on N900? | 15:30 |
| jon_y | definitely an evil spell incantation | 15:30 |
| jon_y | luf: it started mostly as a joke | 15:30 |
| tadzik | Beacuse Lexical Scoping!!!11 ;) | 15:30 |
| tadzik | well, python version is at least LSB-conformant, whatever that's worth | 15:31 |
| jon_y | PerlCritic is awesome btw | 15:31 |
| luf | jon_y: I never saw DocScrutinizer05 makes a joke :D | 15:32 |
| jon_y | should be mandatory to make all of them readable | 15:32 |
| tadzik | except when it's annoying | 15:32 |
| jon_y | that's what exclude is for :) | 15:32 |
| tadzik | "Hey, you turned of wanings here". I know, damnit! :) | 15:32 |
| jon_y | ##no critic | 15:32 |
| tadzik | s/of wa/off war/ | 15:32 |
| infobot | tadzik meant: "Hey, you turned off warnings here". I know, damnit! :) | 15:32 |
| tadzik | yeah, I know, but still. How often do you do 'no strict "refs"' by accident? | 15:33 |
| jon_y | sometimes | 15:33 |
| jon_y | the best part is spotting mistyped sort/grep constructs | 15:33 |
| tadzik | yeah, it has its good parts | 15:34 |
| tadzik | or warning about undefined behaviours, I never knew about those before | 15:35 |
| jon_y | yes, especially doing regex on $_ in a loop | 15:35 |
| jon_y | not exactly easy to spot if you're new to perl | 15:36 |
| tadzik | btw, did the context menu ideas eventually get on a bugtracker? | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah, prolly not | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd think it's less effort to prepare the patch based on what we already discussed here, than to open a ticket with all that info and conclusions | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we already found out there's code to pop up the context menu to left upper side from touchpoint. Just the condition/test that selects this particular method is kinda flawed, since it only kicks in when touchpoint is too close to lower-right end of screen. | 15:58 |
| tadzik | it was also a matter of it disappearing too eagerly | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this condition needs to get tweaked so it works exactly other way round | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that been a missing option in some theme file, that needs to be 150 instead 30 or 8 or whatever it been. I don't agree we might patch source to ignore a setting in theme just because the existing setting in existing themes doesn't match our taste. Rather provide a simple theme-patcher tool | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (^^^ disappearing too soon that is) | 16:01 |
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| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, can we setup an apt triger, so if a new theme is installed, to fix it? | 16:15 |
| freemangordon_ | *trigger | 16:15 |
| freemangordon_ | Not that I have any clue how apt/dpkg triggers work, just a wild idea | 16:16 |
| freemangordon_ | merlin1991: ^^^? | 16:16 |
| merlin1991 | we could use postinst | 16:16 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait theme? | 16:17 |
| freemangordon_ | merlin1991: we can't fix all of the themes around | 16:17 |
| merlin1991 | hm well that apt trigger would be weird | 16:17 |
| merlin1991 | would have to be content agnostic | 16:17 |
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| freemangordon_ | let me elaborate: on new .deb installed, sed(or whatever) /opt/usr/share/themes/*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc | 16:20 |
| freemangordon_ | and fix the broken value | 16:20 |
| freemangordon_ | I think we all will be happy that way. If it wrks | 16:20 |
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| freemangordon_ | *works | 16:20 |
| freemangordon_ | merlin1991: we can use a small C program instead if script, which is using GSettings (or whatever the GTK class was) | 16:22 |
| freemangordon_ | so no need to parse .rc files | 16:22 |
| jon_y | sqlite! :) | 16:22 |
| freemangordon_ | GTK will do it for us, and it can set values in .rc files too | 16:23 |
| freemangordon_ | merlin1991: ooh, we can tell dpkg to watch a directory for a change :D | 16:25 |
| jon_y | dpkg is always running? | 16:27 |
| freemangordon_ | merlin1991: "interest /path/to/a/directory" in debian/triggers | 16:30 |
| freemangordon_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2007/04/msg00076.html | 16:30 |
| freemangordon_ | jon_y: no | 16:30 |
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| kerio | do you have to reboot after installing a theme? fixing stuff like that on boot would be easier | 18:05 |
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| freemangordon_ | kerio: no | 18:31 |
| kerio | shame | 18:32 |
| freemangordon_ | unfortunately I changed *dnd* value to 230, nothing has changed :( | 18:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | run a inotify-monitor script | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chnging the value isn't sufficient, you need to compile the changed .rc file too | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly whoever has set up that theme file this way, is responsible to fix it. Users using a theme file either accept it the way it is, or they tweak it on purpose, to adjust properties like that *dnd* value. Of course somebody can set up an 'app' that inotify monitors the themes and runs a edit script to auto-tweak whatever theme properties the user wants edited. We however should NOT deploy a global mandatory fix for that | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a mandatory fix is like replacing all existing heating thermostats by fixed-temperature versions, just because the current thermostats were shipped with an inconvenient preset | 19:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I could live with the context menu vanishing as soon as pen-up, if only context menu wouldn't appear *under* my fingertip | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW the first fix is way more useful than the second | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus the first fix can get implemented in a 100% clean way, by changing default behaviour from "anchor: top left" to "anchor: bottom right" and add a new option "anchor=[0|1|2|3]" for bottom-right, bottom-left, top-left, top-right | 19:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so anybody interested in keeping current behaviour could restore this by setting anchor=3 | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | likewise we could have changed _default_ of *dnd* from 8 to 150, but since obviously the nonsense value is already explicitly set in gtkrc, our only reasonable option is to tweak this value as set in the file | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird shit returned for >>ll /opt/usr/share/themes/*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc*<< | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could anybody check if your files have same date, please? | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ls -l /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 130648 2011-09-09 12:33 /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my /opt/usr/share/themes/*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache are all of same date, despite the gtkrc are of different often years older age | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | makes me think something compiled them on my device | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all at once | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WTF?!?! /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nothing but a weird shebang line, 13 bytes length, here :-o | 19:38 |
| kerio | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 130648 2012-09-15 14:29 gtkrc.cache | 19:39 |
| kerio | \_o_/ | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, I gather you installed something at 2012-09-15 14:29 | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sth grk(-theme) related | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gtk* | 19:40 |
| kerio | can't remember | 19:41 |
| FIQ | how about the default themes? | 19:41 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: maybe i... removed the beta theme? | 19:41 |
| FIQ | I honestly never used a custom theme | 19:41 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: /usr/bin/hildon-theme-recache-all | 19:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: ls -l /opt/usr/share/themes/*/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:42 |
| kerio | Tool to generate gtkrc cache files on fly | 19:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: \o/ | 19:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hildon-theme-cacher /usr/share/themes | 19:43 |
| kerio | yep | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon_: you called this ^^^ after changing your value *dnd* to 130 (or whatever)? | 19:44 |
| FIQ | DocScrutinizer05: gives "alpha", "beta", "default" and "Raleigh" (whatever that is) | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | same here | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all 4 with same date | 19:45 |
| FIQ | yeah, seems to be the time I reflashed | 19:45 |
| FIQ | which was 11d ago | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# /usr/bin/hildon-theme-recache-all | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Generating /usr/share/themes/beta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Generating /usr/share/themes/alpha/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ... | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ls -l /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 130648 2012-11-27 18:46 /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course | 19:47 |
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| kerio | wtf is *dnd*? | 19:50 |
| FIQ | drag-and-drop I guess | 19:50 |
| FIQ | a thing useful for people not too exposed to technical stuff as it's very simple | 19:51 |
| FIQ | ...but I guess you knew that :p | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chnaged dnd to 300, /usr/bin/hildon-theme-recache-all --> fixed \o/ | 19:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | # Drag and drop treshold | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gtk-dnd-drag-threshold = 300 | 19:52 |
| FIQ | also, where exactly is dnd used in hildon? | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sed s/gtk-dnd-drag-threshold = 30/gtk-dnd-drag-threshold = 30/ -i /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc && /usr/bin/hildon-theme-recache-all | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I did that as root, dunno if it's mandatory | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly, since /opt/usr/share/themes/ isn't owned by user | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grrr | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sed s/gtk-dnd-drag-threshold = 30/gtk-dnd-drag-threshold = 180/ -i /opt/usr/share/themes/default/gtk-2.0/gtkrc && /usr/bin/hildon-theme-recache-all | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | new if you package that as an "app", I insist on getting credit as original author :-P | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now* | 19:56 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: I called hildon-theme-racache-all | 19:57 |
| freemangordon_ | and yes, you need to be root | 19:58 |
| freemangordon_ | nothing changed here, at least for file manager | 19:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | here I think there clearly changed sth, only that I guess it's not pixels but mouse dits that this value's unit | 20:00 |
| freemangordon_ | mouse dits? | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atm (with 300) I get ~2...3mm I can drag the stylus before context menu vanishes | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm nope, with 2000 it's all the same | 20:03 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: just did it 1230, still the same | 20:03 |
| freemangordon_ | yeah :D | 20:03 |
| FIQ | <DocScrutinizer05> new if you package that as an "app", I insist on getting credit as original author :-P | 20:03 |
| * FIQ makes a package and tell everyone that he came up with the idea | 20:03 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FIQ: you're welcome | 20:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | starting filemanager and opening context menu gives inotify-watch -r /usr/share/themes/ : | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 8 4 2 2 /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/ | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4 0 2 2 /usr/share/themes/alpha/gtk-2.0/ | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 11 5 3 3 /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/ | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | time for reboot | 20:17 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: didn't help here either | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I guess the themes are read in by maemo-launcher and after that only shared | 20:17 |
| freemangordon_ | no, it is sapwood engine | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | too late | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | already booting | 20:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, still no effect | 20:21 |
| freemangordon_ | toldya, it is not that | 20:21 |
| freemangordon_ | aiui w have a simulated right-click | 20:21 |
| freemangordon_ | *we | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but we both read the source code, no? | 20:21 |
| freemangordon_ | and dnd should not affect that | 20:21 |
| freemangordon_ | well, yes :) | 20:22 |
| freemangordon_ | did you keep the links? | 20:22 |
| freemangordon_ | *do | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and wasn't gtk-dnd-drag-threshold explicitly mentioned in there | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas nope | 20:23 |
| freemangordon_ | it was | 20:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait, I'm still wondering if I edited the *right* theme gtkrc | 20:23 |
| freemangordon_ | fuck gitorious: "503 Service Unavailable" | 20:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon_: chanlog, search /usr/share/themes/ | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or gtkrc | 20:28 |
| freemangordon_ | gitorious is driving me buts | 20:32 |
| freemangordon_ | *nuts | 20:33 |
| freemangordon_ | hmm, could it be that it should be set on widget. going to try it | 20:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, good thinking. I also wondered what's the real meaning and structure in that friggin gtkrc file | 20:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but hey, since that shite obviously doesn't work in gtkrc the way we assumed, we could as well edit the default from wherever it's coming from | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first step: gdb filemanager, see what value that variable actually has, which is supposed to have the value of gtk-dnd-drag-threshold but obviously doesn't | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | second step: find out where from this value comes, edit that to a sane value | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | odds are we actually can include a sourcecode patch now | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since there's no setting from themes that needs to be overridden, rather that variable has some default value coming from somewhere else, probably sourcecode | 20:44 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: there is, we just need to find which one | 20:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, I grep'ed /usr/share and ooops ~/.* | 20:45 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 <-idiot with root hat on | 20:45 | |
| freemangordon_ | hehe | 20:45 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: no need to grep, all we need is in /ush/share/themes/gtk2.0 | 20:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so, I didn't find *any* gtk-dnd-drag-threshold except the edited ones, in usr/share/themes/gtk2.0 | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so the value that's in that variable right now hardly comes from ush/share/themes/gtk2.0 | 20:48 |
| tadzik | is there a way to easily downgrade to previous version of CSSU-T>? | 21:13 |
| Lava_Croft | no | 21:14 |
| Lava_Croft | (iirc) | 21:14 |
| tadzik | dang. No old mp-fremantle-something-something.deb lying around? :/ | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there probably is, but I don't think installing that will downbgrade the patched binaries to prev state | 21:15 |
| kerio | there isn't | 21:20 |
| kerio | you can just install the versions manually | 21:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: what's wrong with T6? | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if there's any valid reason whatsoever to downgrade to T5.1, we really would like to hear about it | 21:30 |
| Pali | merlin1991, I will push rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait deb package to cssu-devel | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since any such reason, except for testing upgrade to T6 or checking bugs in T5.1, would be a bug in itself | 21:31 |
| Pali | it is platform independent (architecture: all) so I built it on ubuntu without problem | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: and odds are you'll get a T6.1 that satisfies all your needs that made you consider downgrading, in just a few days | 21:32 |
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| tadzik | DocScrutinizer05: rotations are screwed up a bit | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 21:47 |
| tadzik | okay, I'll wait | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already heard sth like that. We should fix that | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please open a ticket | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 21:47 |
| tadzik | hehe | 21:47 |
| tadzik | there's a thread on tmo full of people complaining | 21:48 |
| tadzik | and I think arc<TAB><TAB> saying "it's actually a bug in Qt" | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, I missed that | 21:48 |
| tadzik | but well, it worked before | 21:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not using portrait mode, and I not even updated to T6, so I can't help with describing the bug | 21:49 |
| tadzik | I'm looking through tmo, there's a chance that someone already came up with Steps To Reproduce | 21:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I guess downgrading hildon-desktop should fix it | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "fix" | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no need to downgrade whole MP | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hildon-desktop: | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Installed: 1:2.2.142-22 | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so (iirc) apt-get install -reinstall hildon-desktop=1:2.2.142-22 should do the trick | 21:54 |
| tadzik | let's see | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, probably that will remove the MP nevertheless | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 21:54 |
| tadzik | yeah, it wanted to do that | 21:55 |
| tadzik | I'll just wait for the next release | 21:55 |
| tadzik | also, autoremove wanted to drop some stuff | 21:56 |
| tadzik | libwildmidi0, libcpaboutcssu, libqt4-test and few others | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so if anybody knows a magic incantation of dpkg-divert or whatever, to avoid the MP problem, I'd be *highly* interested | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: NEVER do autoremove | 21:56 |
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| tadzik | I don't :) | 21:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uninstalling MP however is 'harmless' | 21:57 |
| kerio | tadzik: how many? | 21:57 |
| tadzik | 6 in total | 21:57 |
| tadzik | status-area-orientationlock-applet gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-extra qtquickcompat | 21:57 |
| tadzik | may be that they're mp-fremantle-asdasd dependencies | 21:57 |
| kerio | tadzik: well, those are deps pulled in by the metapackage | 21:57 |
| kerio | yep | 21:57 |
| kerio | if you *want* some of those explicitly you should manually install them | 21:58 |
| kerio | just apt-get install will do that, or apt-mark markauto | 21:58 |
| kerio | did you uninstall something multimedia-like? | 21:58 |
| tadzik | I don't mind them installed | 21:58 |
| tadzik | nope | 21:58 |
| kerio | are you *sure*? | 21:58 |
| tadzik | it was when apt wanted to remove cssu metapackage | 21:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uninstalling MP doesn't automatically uninstall any other package (afaik) | 21:58 |
| kerio | yeah but something pulled in gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-extra and then you uninstalled it | 21:58 |
| tadzik | hm | 21:58 |
| kerio | same for libwildmidi0 | 21:59 |
| tadzik | nothing I'm aware of | 21:59 |
| kerio | the other ones are from the metapackage, yes | 21:59 |
| kerio | tadzik: just install the older version of the metapackage | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: he didn't uninstall anything | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tadzik: you're probably absolutely safe to apt-get install -reinstall hildon-desktop=1:2.2.142-22 and accept MP to get uninstalled | 22:00 |
| tadzik | I won't take chances :) | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just don't allow anything else to get uninstalled | 22:00 |
| tadzik | if 6.1 is upcoming I'll just live with landscape omp | 22:00 |
| kerio | apt-get install --reinstall hildon-desktop=1:2.2.142-22 mp-fremantle-community-pr=21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1 | 22:00 |
| kerio | and then reboot | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: WHY? | 22:00 |
| kerio | to keep dpkg happy :3 | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's still happy when no MP installed at all | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you install T5.1 MP you'll get pestered with update T6 immediately | 22:02 |
| tadzik | I set check-for-updates interval for 5 years or such :) | 22:02 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how do i delete an alarmd alarm? | 22:03 |
| kerio | afaik HAM's autoupdate is one of those | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good then, nevertheless there's no real benefit in installing T5.1 MP - except you don't break updates to future cssu releases of course | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I *think* you can find them alarmd events somewhere in /var/* | 22:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if simply editing or deleting a file there is already enough | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /var/cache/alarmd/alarm_queue.ini | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cave /var/lib/dsme/alarm_queue_status | 22:06 |
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| arcean | tadzik, what's the problem with qt and hildon-desktop? | 22:59 |
| tadzik | arcean: the rotation issues, as described on tmo | 22:59 |
| arcean | link? | 23:00 |
| tadzik | steps to reproduce are (somewhat): | 23:00 |
| tadzik | open qt app, rotate to portrait, watch it rotate correctly | 23:00 |
| tadzik | lock screen, unlock screen, still in portrait | 23:00 |
| tadzik | watch qt app rotate itself to landscape and not coming back | 23:00 |
| tadzik | arcean: looking | 23:00 |
| tadzik | it's the one you replied to, though :) | 23:01 |
| arcean | with omp? | 23:01 |
| tadzik | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80525&page=99 | 23:01 |
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| tadzik | yeah | 23:01 |
| arcean | we are talking about omp not QTLockscreen and etc :) ? | 23:02 |
| tadzik | well, I notice it with omp, since it's the only qt app I use, afaik | 23:02 |
| arcean | the problem you've described has nothing in common with http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1297848&postcount=1310 | 23:09 |
| arcean | as there was a problem with blacklisting | 23:09 |
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| tadzik | oh, hm | 23:14 |
| tadzik | I can't even reproduce it anymore :F | 23:15 |
| arcean | me too | 23:15 |
| tadzik | well, problem solved then :) | 23:15 |
| arcean | I think the problem is somewhere much much deeper | 23:15 |
| tadzik | I'll complain again if it happens again | 23:15 |
| arcean | yeah, would be great :) | 23:16 |
| tadzik | oh btw | 23:16 |
| tadzik | if I wanted to look at the code responsible for the screen showing all running apps, where would I look? | 23:17 |
| arcean | the task navigator? | 23:17 |
| tadzik | yeah | 23:17 |
| arcean | oh boy, gitorious 503 Service Unavailable | 23:18 |
| tadzik | yeah | 23:18 |
| arcean | anyway https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arcean-hildon-desktop/blobs/master/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c | 23:18 |
| tadzik | can I hack on it and test in scratchbox on the fly somehow? | 23:18 |
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| arcean | if you're not going to play with portrait/landscape thingie - yes :) | 23:19 |
| tadzik | good :) | 23:19 |
| tadzik | just compile, make install or some more sophisticated shamanism>? | 23:19 |
| arcean | build the package and replace the old one in scratchbox | 23:20 |
| tadzik | I never remember those debian incantations :) Will play around, thanks | 23:21 |
| arcean | np :) | 23:21 |
| tadzik | arcean: do I need some specific arcean-packages installed? The build fails for me now: hd-render-manager.c:3408: error: 'HdRenderManagerPrivate' has no member named 'zoomed' | 23:27 |
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| freemangordon_ | arcean: push your commits :P | 23:29 |
| freemangordon_ | tadzik: too lazy to read the backscroll, why not using h-d from CSSU? | 23:30 |
| tadzik | freemangordon_: well, I want to rebuild it, not just use it | 23:30 |
| tadzik | so I need sources | 23:30 |
| freemangordon_ | git://gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/hildon-desktop.git | 23:31 |
| freemangordon_ | oops | 23:31 |
| freemangordon_ | not that one | 23:31 |
| freemangordon_ | git://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop.git | 23:31 |
| freemangordon_ | tadzik: ^^^ | 23:31 |
| freemangordon_ | this is what is in the latest CSSU-t | 23:32 |
| tadzik | trying | 23:32 |
| freemangordon_ | and in the latest CSSU-thumb (branch thumb-testing) | 23:32 |
| freemangordon_ | etc. | 23:32 |
| freemangordon_ | here: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu you will find the source code of EVERYTHING in any flavour of CSSU | 23:33 |
| freemangordon_ | including stuff yeto-to-be-included | 23:33 |
| tadzik | sounds exciting :) | 23:34 |
| tadzik | I'd like to experiment a bit with fancy ways of closing tasks | 23:37 |
| tadzik | I usually can't aim for the small X with a finger | 23:37 |
| tadzik | freemangordon_: yeah, the one from community-ssu doesn't build with the same error | 23:39 |
| tadzik | I probably need cssu versions of some of the -dev stuff I have installed | 23:39 |
| freemangordon_ | tadzik: yes | 23:41 |
| freemangordon_ | add cssu-testing deb and deb-src repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list in SB | 23:42 |
| freemangordon_ | (i assume you want to build for testing) | 23:42 |
| freemangordon_ | then do apt-get upgrade | 23:42 |
| freemangordon_ | make sure you DON'T have extras-testing or extras-devel enabled in SB | 23:43 |
| tadzik | na, I don't | 23:43 |
| freemangordon_ | good | 23:43 |
| tadzik | still fails to compile, same error | 23:44 |
| tadzik | maybe at least sleeping will work today | 23:44 |
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