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| freemangordon | hmm, strange, if you snooze an alarm in ACT_DEAD mode, it does not power down but remains in ACT_DEAD | 13:57 |
| luf | freemangordon: world with zombies is more exciting :D | 13:59 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 13:59 |
| freemangordon | how is bluez going? | 13:59 |
| luf | freemangordon: I'm using it several weeks. No I finished with backporting the network stuff. | 14:00 |
| luf | * Now I'm finishing with back.... | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | why noone wants to test alarm UI? | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | comeon, the worst that could happen is one to be late for work and get fired :P | 14:02 |
| luf | freemangordon: be patient ... | 14:03 |
| luf | Maybe kerio is trying it .... | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | patient? | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | no | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK | 14:03 |
| * freemangordon is going to find something for lunch, bbl | 14:04 | |
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| kerio | freemangordon: gimme a .deb | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | kerio: just a minute | 14:16 |
| luf | freemangordon: what? what minute? now! :D | 14:17 |
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| kerio | he's setting an alarm to remind himself to upload the .deb | 14:17 |
| luf | kerio: it's bad. You never get the .deb in that case :D | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/alarmui/ | 14:18 |
| luf | good alarmui passed first test. | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 14:19 |
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| luf | freemangordon: it's better than bluez PAN ;) | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | kerio: please check the correct .so is replaced | 14:20 |
| freemangordon | "/usr/lib/systemui/libsystemuiplugin_alarm_dialog.so" | 14:21 |
| kerio | that's the package... | 14:21 |
| kerio | you can just open it :) | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | i did that, but I want to be sure | 14:21 |
| kerio | well, unar it and then untgz the data.tar.gz file | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | ^^^ | 14:21 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i've got guests for lunch right now, though | 14:24 |
| kerio | so any testing will have to wait | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | ok | 14:24 |
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| luf | Good it seems bluez + networking is working as I expected :) | 16:01 |
| freemangordon | :) | 16:01 |
| kerio | :D | 16:01 |
| luf | Ok so not fully. I see bug in removing interface when stopping bluetoothd. | 16:04 |
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| _ade_ | freemangordon: installed your osso-systemui-alarm. First alarm showed up fine ;-) | 16:20 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: good. BTW do you have any problems with stock? | 16:21 |
| freemangordon | like those on 720p thread | 16:21 |
| _ade_ | Will test the stock clock as well. But you had problems with multiple alarms in a short notice as I understood. Never tested that. | 16:23 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 16:23 |
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| _ade_ | freemangordon: question; does this bug I reported ring any bells: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12661 I did not get a response since I registered it months ago | 16:40 |
| povbot | Bug 12661: Popup menu fails with X Error while switching portrait/landscape | 16:40 |
| kerio | hey _ade_ | 16:42 |
| _ade_ | hello there | 16:42 |
| kerio | can you reduce the space between buttons so they look like gtk buttons? | 16:42 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: no, but why it is agains h-d and not against CSSU? | 16:42 |
| freemangordon | can you file another one against CSSU with link to the original? | 16:43 |
| _ade_ | freemangordon: okay, I will do that | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: I suspect Qt here | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | though I've never seen such behaviour | 16:44 |
| _ade_ | Strange, on both my N900's I get it consitently. Very annoying, I have to kill these programs when this happens | 16:45 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: any other program besides worldclock that behaves like that? | 16:46 |
| _ade_ | yes, every (Qt?) program that shows up a dialog and has had this rotation order | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: gimme some name :P | 16:48 |
| _ade_ | Now I think of it, not only Qt. FAP has it too. | 16:48 |
| kerio | i have a serious problem with QT on the n900 | 16:48 |
| kerio | it sucks | 16:48 |
| freemangordon | kerio: you suck | 16:49 |
| tadzik | well, it would be nicer if it didn't reorder widgets every single time when you rotate the device | 16:49 |
| kerio | freemangordon: no seriously, qt doesn't use xkb apparently | 16:49 |
| kerio | so my keyboard is rendered half useless | 16:49 |
| freemangordon | tadzik: it depends on the program, not on qt | 16:50 |
| kerio | it also doesn't honour the setting to ignore the "hold key to sym" nonsense | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: is there any "stock" application behaving like that? | 16:50 |
| _ade_ | I think I can state: every application that uses popup/dialog windows | 16:51 |
| kerio | freemangordon: QT sucks | 16:52 |
| _ade_ | I did not test if forced rotation could solve it. | 16:52 |
| _ade_ | I my opinion Maemo is not aware there was a rotation in these cases | 16:53 |
| freemangordon | _ade_: no forced rotation here, cannot reporoduce it with pdf reader | 16:53 |
| _ade_ | You tested in the order as described in the bugreport? | 16:53 |
| freemangordon | I think so | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | and clicked on "open" button | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | well, maybe it is not popup | 16:54 |
| arcean | _ade_, the latest stable worldclock replacement and I can't reproduce | 16:54 |
| tadzik | freemangordon: so the program is free to somehow precompute both orientation layouts and not do it every single time? | 16:55 |
| _ade_ | It should be something like a QDialog window. I was always wondering why other people never reported it. | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | tadzik: no, it receives a signal and changes the layout accordingly | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | if needed | 16:56 |
| freemangordon | QDesktopWidget::resize that is | 16:56 |
| freemangordon | (iirc) | 16:56 |
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| freemangordon | tadzik: what is going on with opera 12? | 16:57 |
| freemangordon | any clue why it crashes as soon as started? | 16:57 |
| tadzik | yeah, but then reordering stuff on screen takes some visible amount of time; look at OMP for example. I wonder if it could be avoided somehow | 16:57 |
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| tadzik | freemangordon: well, I have no such problem with it. Weird | 16:57 |
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| freemangordon | tadzik: that is very strange | 16:58 |
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| tadzik | did it happen to anyone else? Did you try re(naming|moving) its config file? | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | yes, it takes time, but not much to be done here | 16:58 |
| tadzik | so that is Qt's fault, aye? | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | tadzik: look at TMO, lots of people got hit by that | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | well, GTK does the same | 16:58 |
| tadzik | I don't have that impression | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | it just does it way faster :D | 16:59 |
| tadzik | yay, gtk finally better at something | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | gtk2.0? | 16:59 |
| tadzik | we have 3.0 on maemo? | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | no | 17:00 |
| tadzik | then yes, I mean 2.0 | 17:00 |
| tadzik | now that I look at it, fapman indeed does it too (visibly moving stuff around), and way faster indeed | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | see :P | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | anyway, gtg | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | bbl | 17:00 |
| tadzik | freemangordon: I'll poke Opera maintainer when I get back to the office, see if we can do anything about it | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | tadzik: seems something has changed on the server side | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | which crashes opera on the device | 17:01 |
| tadzik | server side? What kind of server side could that be, Turbo? | 17:02 |
| tadzik | (Opera Turbo, that is) | 17:03 |
| tadzik | okay, I'll read the tmo thread and then start asking questions :) | 17:03 |
| arcean | _ade_, when I click really fast, a couple of times, on the label displaying time (worldclock main window), it will open a couple of dialogs :P | 17:04 |
| _ade_ | I know ;-) | 17:05 |
| arcean | _ade_, ok :) | 17:05 |
| _ade_ | I could see if I can prevent it | 17:05 |
| _ade_ | Have to go now also, thanks for the responses here | 17:06 |
| arcean | _ade_, all in all I have just switched to your worldclock app :) | 17:06 |
| _ade_ | Good to hear that! | 17:06 |
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| ShadowJK | tadzik; just speculation, but right after a website is loaded, opera accesses 3 opera servers. It crashes right after. Atleast one of the files is a big file with site-specific "fixes", of which there's also a local copy in .opera/ ? | 17:34 |
| ShadowJK | Also a fourth access to some opera turbo servers on socks port (even with turbo switched off), but i dont know the timing of that | 17:35 |
| tadzik | that'd be UserJS I suppose | 17:35 |
| tadzik | (the fixes file) | 17:36 |
| tadzik | "Atleast one of the files is a big file" - one of what files, those fetched from Opera servers? | 17:36 |
| ShadowJK | that'd be the browser.js | 17:37 |
| ShadowJK | the "fixes" | 17:37 |
| ShadowJK | the rest seemed tiny | 17:37 |
| tadzik | so again: it crashes after opera start, or after website access? | 17:37 |
| ShadowJK | After a website has loaded | 17:38 |
| ShadowJK | when the spinning thing stops spinning and progress bar goes away | 17:38 |
| ShadowJK | On news.bbc.co.uk it takes awhile for everything to load, so you get some time to scroll around the half-loaded page before it crashes | 17:39 |
| tadzik | curious. | 17:40 |
| tadzik | Okay, I'm guessing around and still haven't even looked at the tmo thread. Still have an exam to learn for :/ | 17:40 |
| ShadowJK | when loading something simple, like an image, there's about a second delay before crash | 17:41 |
| ShadowJK | Even more curiously, when launched from xterminal, it doesn't exhibit this behaviour, seems to run fine | 17:41 |
| luf | kerio: I upladed the new .deb on merlin.at for bluez-499 ;) Feel free to test it. | 17:42 |
| kerio | I'LL FEEL WHATEVER I WANT | 17:42 |
| luf | kerio: :D | 17:42 |
| kerio | luf: there's also a new obexd, isn't it | 17:44 |
| luf | I'll have to make some wiki for it ... | 17:44 |
| luf | kerio: It depends what is your version. | 17:44 |
| kerio | luf: 0.46-1maemo4+0cssu1 | 17:44 |
| kerio | so yes, there's 0.46-1maemo5+0cssu1 on your wobsite | 17:45 |
| luf | kerio: I fixed IrMC protocol last week or previous week. Thanks to don_falcone | 17:45 |
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| luf | But it should be included in CSSU-testing ... | 17:46 |
| tadzik | ShadowJK: did anyone try stracing? | 17:46 |
| ShadowJK | not so far | 17:46 |
| luf | kerio: since obexd-0.46-1maemo3 the IrMC contains bug which prevents from using IrMC protocol :( At least for some clients as one info wasn't on the right path. | 17:49 |
| luf | kerio: it's fixed in 0.46-1maemo5+0cssu1 | 17:50 |
| kerio | k | 17:50 |
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| kerio | luf: what should we test? | 17:53 |
| kerio | remember, i don't have a carkit | 17:53 |
| luf | kerio: with bluez? I worked on PAN (network support). | 17:57 |
| luf | There is no need for pand now :) | 17:57 |
| kerio | oh, you figured how to connect to a NAP without pand? neat | 17:58 |
| luf | Yes. | 17:58 |
| luf | But from upstream it needed dbus connection all the time. | 17:58 |
| luf | permanent dbus connection: /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/$(pidof bluetoothd)/hci0/dev_<BT ID> org.bluez.Network.Connect string:{panu|gn|nap} | 18:00 |
| luf | I added /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/$(pidof bluetoothd)/hci0/dev_<BT ID> org.bluez.Network.ConnectPermanent string:{panu|gn|nap} | 18:00 |
| kerio | luf: and how can you disconnect? | 18:01 |
| luf | I did the same for registering server parts and also path changed: org.bluez.Network{Peer|Hub|Router}.Register (as in bluez-4.60) | 18:01 |
| luf | kerio: try to guess ;) | 18:01 |
| luf | /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/$(pidof bluetoothd)/hci0/dev_<BT ID> org.bluez.Network.Disconnect | 18:02 |
| kerio | neat | 18:02 |
| luf | org.bluez.Network{Peer|Hub|Router}.Register and org.bluez.Network{Peer|Hub|Router}.RegisterPermanent | 18:02 |
| luf | BTW I backported also config /etc/bluetooth/network.conf so it supports now the autoregistering of server parts. | 18:03 |
| luf | kerio: http://pastebin.com/DVuCbEtE | 18:05 |
| luf | What Interface is present (not commented out) that server role is started automatically during bluetoothd startup. | 18:06 |
| kerio | k | 18:07 |
| kerio | does it create the bridge by itself? | 18:08 |
| luf | Yes it can if none of such name exists. | 18:13 |
| luf | But you have to have kernel support for bridge driver (detected via /sys/module/bridge /sys/module/bridgedriver) | 18:14 |
| luf | cssu git with bluez refreshed so it contains the latest code. | 18:21 |
| kerio | luf: os x connected to my NAP :D :D :D :D :D | 18:25 |
| kerio | fucking sweet | 18:25 |
| luf | kerio: Welcome in real world ;) | 18:25 |
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| luf | kerio: to put you back to the earth ... It's NAP only by the name ... | 18:26 |
| kerio | i just need a point-to-point connection anyway | 18:26 |
| kerio | :) | 18:26 |
| luf | GN and NAP has the same implementation inside bluez. | 18:26 |
| kerio | luf: is there a way to not create the bridge? | 18:26 |
| luf | Use PANU server role. | 18:27 |
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| kerio | ooh good point | 18:27 |
| luf | After some playing I decided that it'll be the best to backport old behaviour so it should be backword compatible with implementation in bluez-4.60. | 18:28 |
| luf | BTW PANU is againist BT specification ... ;) | 18:29 |
| luf | PANU should be only client side but in older bluez it's also server role. | 18:29 |
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| kerio | luf: nope, OSX can't trigger the connection | 18:30 |
| kerio | luf: ok, how do i configure btnap? | 18:33 |
| kerio | is it ifupped? | 18:33 |
| kerio | luf: ok, it's not ifupped :( | 18:37 |
| kerio | luf: how is one supposed to set the bridge up? | 18:45 |
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| kerio | luf: ok, got it | 18:49 |
| kerio | now i have a reliable way to ssh to my n900 while i'm pooping :D | 18:49 |
| kerio | luf: awwww, i don't :( | 18:52 |
| kerio | it doesn't reach far enough | 18:52 |
| luf | kerio: I'm sorry I took my dinner. | 18:52 |
| kerio | luf: patch bluez so the range is big enough! | 18:53 |
| luf | kerio: I can do nothing how far the bluetooth reach ;) | 18:53 |
| kerio | that's what a lazy person would say! | 18:53 |
| luf | kerio: sure. I'm lazy. | 18:53 |
| luf | kerio: BTW you can use script in config file to configure the new device (gn, nap - bridge, panu the per connection device). | 18:54 |
| kerio | yep, that's what i did | 18:54 |
| kerio | but apparently i suck at shell scripting and i tried three times while using $0 as the interface name | 18:54 |
| kerio | apparently, ifconfig didn't want to configure the "/usr/local/bin/bluez-nap-up.sh" interface | 18:55 |
| luf | kerio: $1 is the interface name ;) | 18:55 |
| kerio | yeah, i realized that eventually :) | 18:55 |
| luf | kerio: welcome in whole new world :D | 18:55 |
| kerio | hm, i just realized that i can just configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and then tell bluez to use ifup | 18:55 |
| luf | kerio: it didn't work for me. No exact idea why. | 18:56 |
| kerio | then i'll leave it like this | 18:56 |
| luf | And bluez calls the script only during device up (so it doesn't cooperate with ifup well). | 18:57 |
| kerio | is bluetooth PAN more energy-efficient than wifi? | 18:58 |
| luf | I didn't measure it. But I think I read somewhere that it's more energy efficient. But the throughput is also lower via BT. | 18:59 |
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| kerio | now i really wonder if i can plug an usb bt adapter to my router and get PAN there :D | 19:11 |
| luf | kerio: I see also that latency is quite higher with BT. You'll see if it's enough for you. | 19:13 |
| luf | I have a small problem that it seems that my NetworkManager 0.8.1 doesn't show me the BT connections (bnep0) :( | 19:16 |
| kerio | gnome sucks | 19:17 |
| kerio | hm, i wonder why nokia didn't use connman for the n900 | 19:17 |
| luf | I'm using quite old version you know RHEL 6 ... | 19:17 |
| luf | kerio: because using some closed source is sooo sexy. | 19:18 |
| luf | Uncle Google doesn't help me with bluez + NetworkManager a lot :( | 19:19 |
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| kerio | hm, it appears that bluetooth PAN is fucking awful | 20:07 |
| kerio | in power consumption | 20:07 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: new alarm UI .deb, fixed one SIGSEGV | 22:07 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: neat | 22:08 |
| kerio | link pls | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | kerio: the same place http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/alarmui/ | 22:10 |
| kerio | freemangordon: do i have to reboot? | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | yes | 22:11 |
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| freemangordon | arcean_: do you know if alarm clock settings are part of worldclock or control panel plugin? | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | the place where you set znooze time, alarm sound and such | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | *snooze | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | aah, where is ade when i need him :D | 22:27 |
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| arcean_ | freemangordon, a dialog where you can change alarm's sound and snooze time? | 22:39 |
| freemangordon | yep | 22:39 |
| arcean_ | then it's part of the worldclock | 22:39 |
| arcean_ | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/clock-ui/blobs/master/alsettings.cpp | 22:40 |
| arcean_ | yes, that's it :) | 22:41 |
| freemangordon | yeah, thanks | 22:41 |
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| freemangordon | i'll have to talk to ade to introduce settings for snooze count and sound duration | 22:42 |
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| freemangordon | now those are hardcoded to 3 and 60 | 22:42 |
| arcean_ | sounds great :) | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | though I am not sure wheter I will be able to do that per alarm. should be possible though | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | arcean_: did you install alarm UI replacement? | 22:44 |
| freemangordon | as there is a fixed version | 22:44 |
| arcean_ | oh, then I'm going to install :P | 22:44 |
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| freemangordon | hehe | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | be careful if you rely on your n900 to wake you up :P | 22:45 |
| arcean_ | it will be fun :P | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | well the fun is in stock one | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | look at the commits if you are curious | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | I really wonder how is that possibe | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | *possible | 22:46 |
| arcean_ | yeah, I have missed a couple of alarms | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | only a couple? lucky you | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | if it is not my GF to wake me up every day... | 22:47 |
| arcean_ | lol, is it really that bad? | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | yes, it is | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | toldya, look at what I've changed | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | stock was not meant to be used with more than one alarm :D:D:D | 22:48 |
| arcean_ | :D | 22:48 |
| freemangordon | global variables used all over the place, | 22:48 |
| freemangordon | with alarm cookies overwriting those on every new event | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | you can imagine | 22:49 |
| arcean_ | hmm, maybe some trainee wrote that ? :D | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | maybe | 22:49 |
| freemangordon | but I wonder about QA | 22:49 |
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| freemangordon | arcean_: there was even one missing dbus_message_unref(message); | 22:51 |
| arcean_ | wtf :D | 22:51 |
| freemangordon | leading to one DBusMessage leak on every alarm event | 22:51 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 22:51 |
| freemangordon | no, wait, not one per alarm event | 22:52 |
| freemangordon | that one here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-alarm/blobs/master/osso-systemui-alarm.c#line389 | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | that function is called 7-8 times per alarm event | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | the fuck? | 22:53 |
| arcean_ | so far new alarm-ui works fine :) | 22:53 |
| freemangordon | and we're wondering why swap needs to be defragmented in a couple of days :D | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | arcean_: hope so | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | though maybe there are still some bugs to be found | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | I'll need to cleanup the code a bit | 22:57 |
| freemangordon | :( | 22:58 |
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