IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2012-08-16

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Palimerlin1991, I'm pushing packages to cssu-devel, but ke-recv is still in /srv/apt/cssu-devel/incoming/09:06
Palimerlin1991, try to look why is was not moved to repository...09:06
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Paliupdated packages pushed to cssu-devel: ke-recv, operator-name-cbs-widget, osso-wlan, policy-settings-rx5109:47
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Sicelo\0/ Pali10:05
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merlin1991Pali: maybe you didn't increase the version number?11:28
merlin1991the log says File "pool/free/k/ke-recv/ke-recv_3.19-15.3.dsc" is already registered with different checksums!11:28
Paliok, I will increase version11:28
freemangordonguys, vkbrenderer RE is ready, :)11:28
Palinice :-)11:29
merlin1991freemangordon: awesome11:29
merlin1991now we just need portrait layouts :D11:29
Palineed testing new decompiled & recompiled package policy-settings-rx5111:29
PaliI will also inform OMP about it (where headset button is usefull)11:30
merlin1991when I'm happy at home nothing happens, then I go on vacation and suddenly everyone has ready stuff11:30
merlin1991Pali: what does the policy setting package do?11:30
Paliaudio routing, audio policy, cgoups policy, ...11:30
Pali*cgroups11:30
freemangordonmerlin1991: yeah, though I can try to tweak it to suppoort portrait without adding portrait layouts to .vkb files11:30
Palia lot of11:30
merlin1991Pali: and what did you change? or is it simply a re?11:31
Palimerlin1991, I changed policy for jackbias11:31
Palinow jackbias is enabled automatically when headset with microphone is plugged11:32
Paliif jackbias is disabled headset button not working11:32
merlin1991:)11:32
Palimerlin1991, and package is not RE, but is decompiled :-)11:32
merlin1991freemangordon: I'm still waiting for that mail ;)11:32
merlin1991Pali: k11:32
PaliI created shell script which decompile prolog code back to source files...11:33
Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/policy-settings-rx51/blobs/master/scripts/plc-decompile11:33
merlin1991btw Pali could you write me a list of what you've done since the last -testing release? I lost track of what stuff we have ready11:33
Paliok, info is in irc log - I will collect all packages11:34
Pali+ changelogs11:34
merlin1991Pali: that would be perfect11:34
merlin1991I'm back in vienna startin with monday, I'll try to push a new testing then as soon as possible11:34
merlin1991s/startin/starting/11:35
infobotmerlin1991 meant: I'm back in vienna starting with monday, I'll try to push a new testing then as soon as possible11:35
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Palimerlin1991, new version of ke-recv pushed to cssu-devel12:14
kerioby the way, operator-name-cbs-widget from the git repo still doesn't work correctly for me12:15
kerioand why is it an additional package and not just an update to connui-cellular-home?12:16
Palikerio, operator-name-cbs-widget is only transitional package12:23
Paliit can be removed alfter update12:23
Palisee description12:23
freemangordonPali, merlin1991: any idea how to tell automake or debhelper to NOT create .so symlink to a lybrary12:37
freemangordon*library12:37
Palino idea12:38
Paliautotools sucks12:38
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jon_yfreemangordon: isn't that from libtool?13:11
freemangordonjon_y: well, my debian/rules was buggy, it was building directly to package dir. I moved build dir to debian/tmp and it is ok now13:12
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jon_yok13:12
jon_ynormally you can -o libfoo.la -avoid-version in libtool13:12
freemangordonbut I want version :)13:13
jon_yok13:13
freemangordonjust do't want .so symlink13:13
jon_ylibfoo-3.la -avoid-version :)13:13
freemangordonlibhildon-im-vkbrenderer.so.3.0.3 :P13:13
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ivgalvezPali ping13:42
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ivgalvezPali ping14:11
Paliivgalvez, pong14:11
ivgalvezDo you have plans to upload package "Community SSU Enabler" to Extras soon?14:11
Paliit does not depends on me14:12
Palialso last fixed version of CSSU enabler is still only in cssu-devel14:12
ivgalvezanyone could upload it to Extras devel14:12
Paliquestion if pushing cssu enabler to maemo extras is for cssu meeting14:12
ivgalvezwhen is next CSSU meeting?14:13
PaliMAG already pushed it (year ago), but there was decision to remove it14:13
Paliso first need to know reason why cssu enabler was removed from extras-devel14:13
ivgalvezunderstood14:14
PaliI do not know, when will be next meeting...14:14
Palimerlin will be back monday14:14
ivgalvezmmm, maybe a fixed schedule would be useful considering the big momentum and the big amount of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving14:15
keriowill cssu-enabler also add the repos?14:28
ivgalvezIt adds CSSU repositories, CSSU gpg keys and application "Install CSSU" into Menu.14:29
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kerioby the way, community-ssu-enabler can be removed, right?14:30
ivgalvezAFAIK, with new package, CSSU can be uninstalled completely14:32
keriomeh, i would enable -devel but i would lose a lot of benefits from -thumb14:40
ivgalvezyou can simply add the repository and install selected packages from CSSU-devel14:40
ivgalvezin fact, thats is saner than doing a full upgrade to devel14:40
keriobut then i'd have unupgraded packages14:41
keriothat i can't upgrade if -thumb upgrades them14:41
ivgalveznot a problem14:41
ivgalvezif you want to test a single feature14:41
ivgalvezi.e. ke-recv14:42
ivgalvezwithout messing the whole system14:42
ivgalvezconsider that devel is highly risky+14:42
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AapoRantalainenI'm planning to upgrade python. Maybe first step is python2.6. But I'm not sure how to do it. I started sources of python2.6 from debian, but they leeds circular dependencies between jinja2 and sphinx (where latter is documentation tool, but I don't know how to skip it)15:21
ivgalvezwow15:22
ivgalvezyou are really brave15:22
AapoRantalainenI'm not upgrading phone, but trying to build them on scratchbox15:23
ivgalvezHarmattan is running 2.6 isn't it?15:23
AapoRantalainenI think so15:23
AapoRantalainenthat might be best bet15:24
ivgalvezYep: http://wiki.meego.com/Python/Harmattan15:24
ivgalvezthat would help porting of applications to/from Harmattan15:24
ivgalvezand Meecolay project15:24
ivgalvezTizmee for example is right now using specific 2.6 features15:24
AapoRantalainenI have encountered barries because of too old python. And now I read about problems with meecolay15:25
ivgalvezhowever, considering the big amount of space needed for Python, I dunno if it would be way too much to have two different versions in the same device15:25
ivgalvezmaybe with thumb215:26
AapoRantalainenI hope that I'm not alone with this, and we can get rid of python2.5 entirely15:26
ivgalvezthat would be great15:27
ivgalvezat this pace we will need an entirely new distribution for the N900... Maemo 5.515:27
AapoRantalainenor if python can be on /opt or even MyDocs there are no issues with disk scape15:27
AapoRantalainenMaemo5.5 sounds very good, glad you mention it15:28
ivgalvezhehe15:28
ivgalveznow that you are here...15:29
ivgalvezhave you made any progress with Allegro library?15:29
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AapoRantalainenno, I haven't check it since you last time asked15:30
AapoRantalainenis there new upstream versions? If bug is suddenly went away15:31
ivgalvezI don't think so, they are currently pushing version 515:31
ivgalvezI wish I could find a few spare hours to check it in depth15:31
ivgalvezcomparing with implementation of SDL could help to fix the problems15:31
AapoRantalainenthat is good plan15:32
ivgalvezfor full screen support it should be very straihtforward15:32
ivgalvezthe excessive cpu consumption playing audio seems more tricky15:33
AapoRantalainenaudio can be disabled, games are not the same, but good start15:34
ivgalvezyep15:34
ivgalvezI have a bunch of games already ported but not uploaded to Extras15:35
ivgalvezbecause the have the same issues than Head Over Heels15:35
ivgalvezand I would prefer to upload them with proper Allegro support15:35
AapoRantalainenpython on harmattan has same: jinja2 needs python-sphinx (>= 0.6). and python-sphinx needs  python-jinja2 (>= 2.1)15:38
ivgalvezwhy don't you get the sources directly from Meego instead of Debian?15:40
ivgalvezor from Harmattan repos15:40
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marmistrzmerlin1991: ping15:42
Palikerio, cssu-enabler can be deleted only if no cssu package is installed15:50
keriowell, it's weird15:50
keriobecause i uninstalled it15:50
Palikerio, also cssu enabler package contatins downgrade script which uninstall all cssu packages15:50
kerioand nothing's wrong15:50
Palikerio, I mean new version of cssu enabler15:50
keriooh15:50
Palinew version is only in cssu-devel15:50
Palibut will be in cssu-testing...15:50
keriowell, i don't have the metapackage installed anyway15:51
Paliafter cssu-devel changes HAM will cannot update CSSU without enabler package15:52
Palikerio, then you will need to use apt-get15:52
kerioi already ran the enabler once15:52
kerioand besides, my HAM won't complain about domain changes, i changed the hidden settings15:53
PaliHAM and cssu enabler (in devel) using proper way how to add new (system signed) repository to maemo15:53
Palikerio, then ok15:53
keriooic15:53
Palialso red pill mode is back in devel15:53
Paliit is possible to enable it via standard old way15:53
keriooh, neat15:53
kerioi used gconftool15:53
freemangordonmerlin1991: could you create hildon-im-vkbrenderer in CSSU for me?15:54
kerioPali: besides, the apt-worker.real thing is a kludge and doesn't work properly if you don't have passwordless sudo enabled for everything15:55
kerio:s15:55
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lizardoAapoRantalainen: someone just asked the same question about python2.6 upgrade on the pymaemo-developers mailing list: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/pymaemo-developers/2012-August/001556.html16:43
lizardoAapoRantalainen: if you are interested, you can contribute to discussion there, as not everyone interested in helping may be on this channel16:44
keriohm, why isn't /usr/bin/python2.5 optified?16:49
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keriocould cssu eventually move to thumb2 binaries?18:25
Raimu-XYou trolling again, kerio? :D18:43
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kerioRaimu: it depends on the answer18:50
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