IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Saturday, 2012-07-07

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DocScrutinizer05LOL WTF?!! just had to kill >.xsession-errors, it was 4.3GB :-o01:33
DocScrutinizer05and made my (old) laptop act up on a number of things, since kmail e.g. couldn't create any more temporary mail-id-list01:34
DocScrutinizeraplay     32757         jr    1w      REG        8,7  2270413488    2310169 /home/jr/.xsession-errors01:36
DocScrutinizerhalley:~ # >/home/jr/.xsession-errors01:37
DocScrutinizerhalley:~ # df -h01:37
DocScrutinizer /dev/sda7              30G   24G  4.3G  85% /home01:37
DocScrutinizer05NFC where the other 2GB came from01:37
DocScrutinizer05before I reset .xsession-errors, it been 0% on /home01:38
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DocScrutinizer /dev/sda7              30G   28G     0 100% /home01:40
DocScrutinizerreal fun01:40
DocScrutinizerpffff, nothing!01:41
DocScrutinizerjr@halley:~/Documents/OpenMoko> uptime01:41
DocScrutinizer 00:41    123 Tage 20:57 an,  12 Benutzer,  Durchschnittslast: 0,11, 0,35, 1,0401:41
DocScrutinizerI honestly wonder though what aplay has to write in .xsession-errors01:42
DocScrutinizer05luckily this old silicon gravejard is awaiting some retirement now01:43
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merlin1991chem|st: so far nope14:39
merlin1991just a general heads up, I'm going to be way starting tomorrow till friday next week, after that I'll set up our next meeting14:40
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asfethangreetings15:04
asfethanfreemangordon: can you please post me version of your libcurl?15:04
asfethanfrom dpkg?15:04
freemangordonasfethan: 7.25.0-1maemo715:23
asfethanfreemangordon: and is the fb sharing plugin working with that?15:24
freemangordonyep15:25
Lava_Croftits a curl thing that makes fb plugin stop working?15:29
Lava_Croftas in, not able to share to fb15:30
asfethanLava_Croft: yes it is15:33
asfethanLava_Croft: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-06-04.log.html15:33
Lava_Croftheh15:33
Lava_Croftty15:33
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DocScrutinizer05jonwil: Hi!17:27
jonwilhi17:27
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: smscb widget needs quite some love17:28
jonwilI have no time right now for N90017:28
DocScrutinizer05damn17:28
DocScrutinizer05hope it's due to a fun thing!17:29
jonwilplus my operator has stopped transmitting SMSCB (or more likely, are only transmitting it from a few cells and not from all the cells) so I couldn't properly test changes17:29
jonwilMore specifically the cell towers that I can pick up from my house no longer transmit SMSCB17:29
DocScrutinizer05web2.0-ification of GSM17:30
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: anyway, do we know about cell handover events?17:33
DocScrutinizer05about LAC, CID?17:33
jonwilthe cbs widget already handles dbus signal cell_info_change17:34
jonwilwhich should have the info you seek17:34
jonwilregistration_status_change may also be relavent17:34
DocScrutinizer05there were several complaints that somebody roamed to another country/network, and when they came back home, the other network never vanished in smscb-widget due to their hoem network didn't send any smscb17:35
DocScrutinizer05based on what info those smscb are meant to transport, we should reset the display on each cell handover17:36
DocScrutinizer05or alternatively after exiration of a few-minutes-timer17:36
jonwilthe way I wrote it is that it will clear out the SMSCB display anytime there is a change of operator code17:37
DocScrutinizer05hmmm17:37
jonwilor radio type17:37
jonwili.e. GSM <-> UMTS17:37
jonwilor registration status17:37
DocScrutinizer05should be on dbus signal cell_info_change17:37
jonwilor service status17:38
DocScrutinizer05basically each cell-handover (aka change in CID) should clear the smscb text17:39
jonwilwell the original assumption I made was that if an operator transmitted CBSMS, all the towers with the same operator code and radio technology would transmit those same CBSMS17:40
DocScrutinizer05which is not entirely correct17:41
DocScrutinizer05since it's often used as a simple form of location based service, it will change for each cell17:42
jonwilyeah, as evidenced by the patchy nature of my current operator17:42
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jonwilI dont mean that each operator will transmit the same CBSMS for each tower, what I originally assumed is that if one tower was transmitting CBSMS, all towers on the network would be transmitting the same format CBSMS on the same channel (e.g. cell ID)17:43
DocScrutinizer05the widget needs a waqy to fall back to original/default text when cell handover to a cell that doesn't ever send smscb17:43
DocScrutinizer05fair assumption, but obviously not exactly RL conforming ;-)17:44
DocScrutinizer05and for some reason users had sticky roaming parter network ID in oper-name even after they returned back home17:45
jonwilAs evidenced by the fact that my phone has been at home and the CBS widget was listing a location on the other side of town :)17:46
DocScrutinizer05wher "back home" meant t-mo which obviously isn't sending smscb for them17:46
jonwilsome experimentation with my old GSM Motorola way back when confirmed that said Motorola didn't seem to erase location IDs on change of tower, only on reboot or phone or on change of operator17:46
DocScrutinizer05jonwil: you see the issue. Fine :-)17:46
jonwilin any case I have no time to fix it17:46
DocScrutinizer05:-(17:47
jonwilbut if someone else wants to fix it, feel free to make whatever changes you want :)17:47
DocScrutinizer05sad17:47
DocScrutinizer05sure thing17:47
DocScrutinizer05how's life?17:47
jonwilgood :)17:47
DocScrutinizer05:-)17:47
jonwilI would suggest that if changes are made, a check is added where it checks the operator code to also check the country code17:48
jonwilLiving in Australia it never occurred to me that an N900 could move to a location with a different country code without being turned off :P17:48
DocScrutinizer05hehe17:49
DocScrutinizer05what lang is that widget?17:49
DocScrutinizer05c?17:49
DocScrutinizer05python?17:49
jonwilc17:49
DocScrutinizer05:nod:17:49
jonwilwriting a hildon widget in anything other than c seems stupid :P17:50
* DocScrutinizer05 feels like nobody but himself will be willing to look into it17:50
DocScrutinizer05so this will probaly mean I should install friggin SB to my new laptop17:52
DocScrutinizer05if only *I* had as much (free) time as I used to have 8 months ago17:52
jonwilhopefully the phone shop calls me soon to say that the N900 parts I am waiting for have arrived17:54
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