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| merlin1991 | Doc why are there 3 docs in here actually? | 00:00 |
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| chem|st | multiple personalities^^ | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: because there are like 4 clients active | 00:01 |
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| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: you need a better bouncer system, 1 doc in the channel should be enough to fit an unlimited amount of clients ;) | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | merlin1991, yesterdy I asked you kindly for info about meeting, remember? I haven't got Your answer | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: try xchat-n900 and konversation over same bouncer! you'll get scared what happens to your battery | 00:02 |
| Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, dircproxy handles it very well | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | Estel_: here at cssu we don't work @ lightspeed | 00:03 |
| merlin1991 | in other words there's no date yet | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | merlin1991, lol :D | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | ok, i just wanted to be sure, that You've received message at all | 00:03 |
| tadzik | the way you capitalize You looks familiar :) | 00:03 |
| Estel_ | ;) | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 1.5GB dadumdidum | 00:07 |
| chem|st | re | 00:07 |
| Raimu | Er. | 00:08 |
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| chem|st | now my longboard is kinda fixed and I have time for other sh*t | 00:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | longboard? surfer? | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: are you dl a complete install dvd? | 00:10 |
| chem|st | streetsurfing yes... windsurfing I will be off in about 5 weeks | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | I ususally go with the minimal cd and dl on the fly | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sucks as actual install takes even longer | 00:10 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: is this dvd a nightly? | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, plain suse12.1 | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so almost obsolete ;-p | 00:11 |
| chem|st | sry mate but now you got to find a deep dark deep corner and hide in | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (not that I ever do anything else - I love dark hunid corners) | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but this DSL SUUUUUUCKS! | 00:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng Post err Telekom would sell me a line 16 times as fast for exactly same money today | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but they can't upgrade this abomination | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "ne free slot in your DSLAM" - bastards! | 00:15 |
| Timmo_ | :D | 00:16 |
| Timmo_ | still uploading :D | 00:16 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: lte might become an option for you then | 00:17 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: no cablecomp? | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pondering | 00:18 |
| chem|st | cable or lte? | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | both ;-D | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SLED | 00:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fsck buntkuh! | 00:18 |
| jon-kha | lsusb | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no devices found | 00:20 |
| jon-kha | two meny keyboards around here | 00:20 |
| jon-kha | *many | 00:20 |
| jon-kha | *too, I probably should go to sleep | 00:21 |
| Timmo_ | done | 00:24 |
| Timmo_ | so now i'm hoping sombody will see my link | 00:25 |
| merlin1991 | Timmo_: I'll point freemangordon to it tomorrow | 00:27 |
| Timmo_ | thank you merlin1991 | 00:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | DA FAQ! my download again stalled, resp allegedly finished 100% 4.3 of 4.3 - just the dest file is only ... :-o 2.0GB | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | copy is fast - ~15s/GB | 00:50 |
| chem|st | ehrm are you sure you fs is capable of more than 2gb? | 00:52 |
| chem|st | had things like that with usbsticks, external hdds people with windows only have no idea of formating properly | 00:52 |
| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, MohammadAG, DocScrutinizer, see: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/merge_requests/7 | 01:02 |
| Pali | only public GPG key for merlin cssu server is missing | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: yep, I'm rather sure *now*. Before I just thought "WTF? EXT4!" | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: now I managed to finally trick the shite into resuming, hope it will work in the end | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i.e. will result in a correct 4.3GB iso | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: install-community-ssu(0 / 106) ?? | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't get it what the whole patch does, it seems | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I think that part went fubar | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | it's now comuniity-ssu-enabler | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why would it delete install-community-ssu? | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | rename | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 01:16 |
| Pali | gitorious is stupid, it is rename | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | gitorious webinterface is crap | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: errormsg been "connection to ftp.fau-erlangen.de lost" | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now I'm using ftp:// rather than the crappy http:// download | 01:18 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: grab the torrent | 01:19 |
| merlin1991 | at least you have checksums and paus/replay that way | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since http:// asked "resume?" and on answer yes simply restarted at zero | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I rather guess the http// DL of konqueror/kio is borked maybe | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though this been the 2nd abort already, first one was after some 40MB, so I didn't mind the fake resume | 01:21 |
| merlin1991 | srly grab the torrent | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no torrent client here | 01:21 |
| merlin1991 | ktorrent maybe? | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, seems to work just fine with ftp | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus doesn't clog my upstream | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uplink | 01:24 |
| merlin1991 | just limit your uplink, be a fag ;) | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/opensuse/distribution/12.1/iso/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso is just 20km away, why should I use torrent and open a zillion connections to a zillion peers, with all the protocol overhead involved, and worry about creating a separate download dir for torrent client and all that hassle | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | esp when the bottleneck clearly is my DSL downlink | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wouldn't like to see uplink becoming the bottleneck ;-D | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since that's about 1/8 of down | 01:29 |
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| Pali | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12632 | 13:02 |
| povbot_ | Bug 12632: Fremantle CSSU testing apt repository is signed by diablo gpg key | 13:02 |
| Pali | Niels Breet 2012-06-28 12:37:40 EEST > I changed the signing script. It should sign the repo with the fremantle key now. Changes will show after a new package is pushed. | 13:02 |
| Pali | freemangordon, merlin1991, DocScrutinizer, see ^^^^ | 13:03 |
| Pali | push new package/cssu version to community-testing asap to see if bug is really fixed :-) | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: nice, but I don't get the catch. What does this mean for me, regarding future action to be taken? | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 13:04 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, no more anoying messages in apt-get (and ham) that missing gpg key in system for community repo | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I get it when thinking a bit longer, let's see... | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, Niels fixed some stuff in CSSU-*? Repos, so we don't see the "no signing key found" or whatever warnings/errors in HAM, right? | 13:06 |
| Pali | yes, but it will be fixed after new package will be pushed to cssu-t | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 13:06 |
| Pali | I understood, that fixed script which signing repo will be called after new package update | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui we're about to define a new rollout rev for T in a few days anyway, so no pending action-points from that? | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or wait, could somebody upload one pkg to see if the fix works as supposed? | 13:08 |
| Pali | yes, I think that uploading one package to see if it really fixed will be needed | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok. could you do that? or do we need somebody else taking care | 13:10 |
| Pali | I do not have upload permission | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ping | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ^^^^ could you upload arbitary pkg to cssu-t to see if signing works? | 13:10 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, what do you think about script which uninstall CSSU (downgrade all packages from cssu repo to version from nokia)? | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nice-to-have | 13:11 |
| Pali | I think more people on TMO asked for that and it could be usefull for testing too (without reflashing device) | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure thing | 13:11 |
| Pali | in ubuntu is script ppa-purge which do that | 13:11 |
| Pali | and I looked that ppa-purge is simple bash script which working fine on ubuntu | 13:12 |
| Pali | I will try to modify it to downgrade packages from cssu repo | 13:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a useful thing, good plan | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly I'd like to rollback CBS-widget for now | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we need to think about how to deploy that thing in a better more optional and compatible way | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure the custom-oper-widget is a dirty hack aiui and not compatible in itself. But that's no justification for CSSU to nuke it unconditionally, if we can find a better way to handle that | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lots of users are missing custom-oper-widget functionality now | 13:17 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, problem with cbs-widget can be fixed that we move widget library into package where is original nokia widget | 13:17 |
| Pali | then dpkg-divert will work | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I thought as well | 13:18 |
| Pali | of custom operator widgets from extras | 13:18 |
| Pali | I can look on it | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I don't get it why it has a new pkg name after all | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: that would be really great :-) | 13:18 |
| Pali | but somebody planned to RE cellular control panel applet | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | much appreciated | 13:18 |
| Pali | so I'm waiting for this | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | won't happen afaik. I heard a "giving up, too complex" | 13:19 |
| Pali | ok | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe ask again about status of this RE-task in here | 13:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to make sure about what I heard is really most recent state of matters | 13:21 |
| freemangordon | now way it will happen :( . I asked jonwil for help, he refused. And it is not a task for a single developer | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: thanks | 13:26 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I have script which create command apt-get remove <packages> && apt-get install <packages> for uninstalling cssu | 15:47 |
| Pali | but one big problem: my script using awk and busybox's AWK segfault :-( | 15:47 |
| Pali | so not usable on n900 :-( | 15:47 |
| Pali | why is busybox unstable? I thought that busybox is bad non working but never crash... | 15:48 |
| Pali | *** glibc detected *** busybox: realloc(): invalid pointer: 0xbeca4fd8 *** | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: might be related to your particular build of messybox? | 15:51 |
| Pali | I have defualt n900 busybox | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I never seen BB segfaulting on N900 | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dang | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mind to share a nuker-line? | 15:52 |
| Pali | ok, now I changed awk code and not crashing | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | pls ping me later on it, busy with daywork for now | 15:52 |
| Pali | this crashing awk ... << EOF ... awk program ... EOF | 15:53 |
| Pali | but this not awk '...awk program...' | 15:53 |
| Pali | awk program is multiline and in shell I wrote multiline strings vi document here << EOF syntax | 15:54 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: please write the commandline that crashed awk down somewhere | 15:55 |
| merlin1991 | that is a valid candidate for cssu to upate messybox | 15:56 |
| Pali | ok, I will upload it to pastebin | 15:56 |
| Pali | merlin1991, here is script which crash buxybox awk: http://pastebin.com/rbh0SvQ2 | 16:00 |
| merlin1991 | than Pali | 16:03 |
| merlin1991 | s/than/thanks/ | 16:03 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: thanks Pali | 16:03 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, DocScrutinizer51, script for uninstalling CSSU is here: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-community-ssu-enabler/blobs/master/community-ssu-disabler | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | :) | 16:43 |
| Pali | uninstalling not tested yet, but list of packages seems to be ok | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali: mind to make a new version of KPS that is compatible with kernel-cssu? | 16:45 |
| Pali | ok | 16:45 |
| freemangordon | i.e. that depends on kernel-feature-overclock or something | 16:45 |
| Pali | I think we should add to kernels packages new Provides line for new overclock scheme | 16:46 |
| freemangordon | agree | 16:46 |
| freemangordon | Pali: BTW I think your change to shut FMTX up brought the issue. in KP i mean | 16:47 |
| Pali | what? | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | iirc you made a patch that removed some error message | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | if you remember there were several reports for high bttery drain with KP50, the reason geing sh runaway process | 16:48 |
| Pali | yes | 16:48 |
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| Pali | I remember | 16:49 |
| freemangordon | Pali: | 16:49 |
| Pali | this was caused by fm-boost extras package I think | 16:49 |
| freemangordon | I aam almost sure your patch introduce that | 16:49 |
| freemangordon | yes, but it should not act like that | 16:49 |
| freemangordon | I mean there was no problem before that | 16:49 |
| Pali | and other programs should not use active waiting... | 16:50 |
| Pali | I will look at fm-boost in extras | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | whatever, if we plan kernel in CSSU that should be solved | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | active waiting? | 16:51 |
| merlin1991 | I think he means busy wait | 16:52 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK fm-boost just does acho | 16:52 |
| freemangordon | *echo | 16:52 |
| Pali | ok, package fm-boost v 0.2 do only one echo ... > ... without any loop or waiting | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | yep | 16:54 |
| Pali | freemangordon, I need to know more informations about that problem | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | 1 minute | 16:55 |
| Pali | it that person who has/has problem on irc? | 16:55 |
| Pali | I need to identify that shell script what doing | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | no, but kp50 thread has several posts | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | I don't remember who exactly had this problem | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | Pali: Nokia-N900:/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0063# echo 0 > lock | 16:57 |
| freemangordon | and you're in the game | 16:57 |
| Pali | and this one echo line caused it? | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | yep | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | -sh 100% CPU usage | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | try it | 16:58 |
| Pali | ok, now I have idea where can be problem | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | ther seult? | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | *result | 16:58 |
| Pali | bad reading from buffer in kernel driver | 16:58 |
| Pali | e.g bad number parsing | 16:58 |
| Pali | I will look at it | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:59 |
| Pali | one question, is this working? echo -n 0 > lock | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | no, it hangs, you need ctrl^c to stop it | 16:59 |
| Pali | (make sure you have echo with accept -n, some busybox do not understand it) | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | i am on stock | 17:00 |
| Pali | printf 0 > lock | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | ? | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | what? | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | you wantm me to do that? | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | printf 0 > lock does not hang | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 17:01 |
| Pali | ok, then is is problem with parsing newline | 17:01 |
| Pali | in kernel | 17:01 |
| Pali | printf does not write newline after string | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | :) | 17:01 |
| Pali | ok, I found it in kernel driver, this is that problem (with parsing string) | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | great | 17:02 |
| Pali | replace sscanf with one *strtol* function should fix it | 17:03 |
| freemangordon | but sscanf should work?!? | 17:03 |
| freemangordon | or I miss something | 17:03 |
| freemangordon | hmm, lemme check what i use in SR driver | 17:04 |
| Pali | you need to return full buffer size of get attr function | 17:04 |
| Pali | but sscanf return only number of bytes which was parsed | 17:05 |
| Pali | so it hangs somewhere in kernel and userspace waiting until kernel read last unparsed char | 17:05 |
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| freemangordon | you return the result of sscanf? | 17:07 |
| Pali | yes | 17:07 |
| freemangordon | omg, you should not return that | 17:07 |
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| Pali | nokia | 17:08 |
| freemangordon | aah | 17:09 |
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| Pali | what about add new kernel provides line: kernel-feature-vdd ? | 17:16 |
| Pali | freemangordon ^^^ | 17:16 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I am ok with whatever you want KP to provide, I'll add it to kernel-cssu | 17:17 |
| Pali | I will add it to kernel-power git | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | you can also add provides *720p* | 17:18 |
| Pali | and new kernel-power-settings will depends on kp50 | kernel-feature-vdd | 17:18 |
| Pali | so it allow to use kernel-cssu too | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | hmm, isn't kernel-feature-smartreflex better? | 17:19 |
| Pali | ok, I will also add kernel-feature-video-720p | 17:19 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 17:19 |
| Pali | ok, smartreflex seems better | 17:19 |
| freemangordon | yeah, think a little bit for PR :D:D:D | 17:20 |
| Pali | Ok, I added kernel-feature-smartreflex, kernel-feature-video720p to kernel-power-flasher & kernel-power-bootimg | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:24 |
| Pali | and kernel-power-settings depends on kernel-power >= v49 or kernel-feature-smartreflex | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | great | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | you will push it in extras-devel? | 17:25 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, changes pushed to kernel-power garage git repo | 19:50 |
| Timmo_ | BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash) | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | ~ $ monodevelop | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | * Assertion at mini-arm.c:2881, condition `thumb_supported' not met | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | Stacktrace: | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at Gnome.Vfs.Vfs..cctor () <IL 0x00000, 0x00007> | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at (wrapper runtime-invoke) object.runtime_invoke_void | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | (object,intptr,intptr,intptr) <IL 0x0004c, 0xffffffff> | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at MonoDevelop.Platform.GnomePlatform..cctor () [0x00022] in | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at (wrapper runtime-invoke) object.runtime_invoke_void | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | (object,intptr,intptr,intptr) <IL 0x0004c, 0xffffffff> | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | (object,System.Reflection.BindingFlags,System.Reflection.Binder,object[],System.Globalization.CultureInfo) | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | <IL 0x00124, 0x0020f> | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | at System.Reflection.MonoCMethod.Invoke | 19:55 |
| Timmo_ | (System.Reflection.BindingFlags,System.Reflection.Binder,object[],System.Globalization.CultureInfo) | 19:55 |
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| Timmo_ | any suggestion what to read for quick start debuging apps? | 20:18 |
| Timmo_ | :) | 20:18 |
| Timmo_ | :D | 20:18 |
| Timmo_ | i'm desperate | 20:19 |
| Timmo_ | or what to know about developing for maemo and x apps? | 20:20 |
| Timmo_ | i bouth keyboard so now i need to use it :D | 20:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | morning cssu | 20:41 |
| timmo_ | ola | 20:42 |
| timmo_ | what time is at your side? | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | UGT morning | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~ugt | 20:43 |
| infobot | methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | actually I'm in CET | 20:45 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: did you recieve luf's email? I am asking, as i sent it using "send IM" funcion on my n900 IRC conversations plugin, never used it before and have NFC if it works :) | 22:26 |
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| merlin1991 | _freemangordon: could you look @ https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12631 ? | 23:21 |
| povbot_ | Bug 12631: MonoDevelop app broken after update cssu | 23:21 |
| merlin1991 | my bet is, that it's the gnome-vfs failed build | 23:21 |
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| luf | Hi. | 23:25 |
| luf | merlin1991: I'm not dead ;) | 23:25 |
| luf | merlin1991: ping | 23:30 |
| Estel_ | CSSu, devs, I got weird PM - I think it was meant for You: | 23:37 |
| Estel_ | <rlinfati> [16:15] https://gr37Bcvd:dfe52Ydf@downloads.maemo.nokia.com/unreleased/fremantle/apps/adobe-flashplayer-10-1_4.0.0-45+1divert2.deb - flash 10 for fremantle ( the same of harmattan ) , can be included in cssu ? | 23:37 |
| Estel_ | probably, it's some hoax | 23:37 |
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| Estel_ | yea, it's hoax, redirect to some scam shit. Don't waste time on it. | 23:54 |
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| wmarone__ | heh | 23:56 |
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