IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2012-05-25

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freemangordonmerlin1991, ping12:18
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merlin1991freemangordon: pong12:28
freemangordonmerlin1991, I am unable to import kernel-cssu in both -thumb and -devel repo, error is "no distribution found".12:30
freemangordonbut there is one, for sure :D12:30
merlin1991lemme see yourchangelog12:33
merlin1991is gitorious valid?12:33
freemangordonyep12:33
merlin1991arf gitorious web does not allow to show it, can you past me the latest changelog entry?12:34
freemangordonkernel-cssu (1:2.6.28-10cssu0) fremantle; urgency=low12:35
merlin1991fremantle has to be unstable12:35
freemangordonaaah12:35
merlin1991the repo maps unstable -> fremantle12:35
freemangordonok12:35
freemangordonmerlin1991, BTW it is -devel the correct repo to put kernel-cssu in?12:39
merlin1991nope :D12:39
freemangordonwhy?12:39
merlin1991it's neccessary for -thumb afaik  :)12:40
freemangordonnope, it has bugfixes for bugs against CSSU12:40
freemangordonthumb is just a feature12:40
merlin1991well you can put it into -devel aswell since it is a devel thing12:40
freemangordonyeah12:41
merlin1991bug against cssu in the kernel?12:41
freemangordonyep12:41
merlin1991do you mean bluetooth?12:41
freemangordonBT sysfs buffer overfolw12:41
freemangordoncheck https://garage.maemo.org/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=1980&group_id=2300&group_project_id=386412:42
merlin1991hm what were the bq24150*  patches?12:42
freemangordoncharger support12:43
freemangordonbut kernel don't boot with those enabled :D12:43
freemangordonPali promise to look at it during the weekend12:43
merlin1991okay I'll try it the other way around what's missing with them disabled :D12:43
freemangordonnothing12:43
freemangordonthose are bleeding-edge, planed for KP5112:43
merlin1991ah I see12:44
freemangordonthe are not in KP5012:44
freemangordon*they12:44
merlin1991what would they bring?12:44
merlin1991and please don't say charger support again xD12:44
freemangordonjust a second12:44
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/hald-addon-bme/hald-addon-bme12:44
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/libbmeipc/libbmeipc12:45
freemangordona way to get rid of BME12:45
merlin1991intresting12:45
merlin1991I guess that depends on palis to be finished kernel module?12:46
freemangordonplus hostmode will be better supported, ask Pali for details12:46
freemangordonno, right now it is almost POC, there is just bq battery module support, no charging12:46
freemangordonbut it BME to be replaced we need to just code the remaining stuff (i.e. charging ad some other)12:47
merlin1991and exporting bme signals to all the stock fun that still uses it ;)12:48
freemangordonthat is done by hal addon, most of it is in place :P12:48
merlin1991if we ever going to ship that with cssu by default we'll have some fun regression testing ahead of us :D12:49
freemangordonyeah, sure, but before that we should re-define CSSU, as BME replacement is out of the scope so far :P12:50
merlin1991yep12:50
freemangordoncssu-extras?12:51
merlin1991though technically we could ship it in our to be done "replaces" channel :)12:51
freemangordonyeah12:51
merlin1991and would still stay in scope :)12:51
freemangordon:)12:51
freemangordonbtw i think you should reprocess kernel-cssu packages, once the upload finishes12:52
merlin1991how do you mean that?12:52
freemangordonNFC, I suspect just overwriting the packages in ./incoming would not be enough12:53
merlin1991should be enough12:53
freemangordonok, lets see12:54
freemangordonyeah, it is enough :)12:54
freemangordonmerlin1991, now the kernel just need correct warning message when flashing, now it uses KP's one12:56
freemangordon*needs12:56
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Estel_aren't we going to get lost in all those cssu, cssu-extras cssu-replaces, cssu-heaven etc channels?15:23
Estel_it sounds like army of devs and maintainers like debian's one needed to keep them in sync15:23
Estel_+ testing more complicated programs against all combinations of those on device...15:24
Estel_headache15:24
Estel_something for 2000 voting ballots community, not 200+, IMO15:24
Estel_...despite being great idea on it's own, I'm afraid that such many channels of, honestly, main system package, sounds like overkill15:25
merlin1991Estel_: no worries there's only 315:41
merlin1991cssu then cssu-extras and cssu-thumb when freemag has it ready :)15:41
merlin1991err freeman15:41
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freemangordonmerlin1991, cssu-devel too :P16:13
Estel_:P16:16
Estel_if it's not too much hassle for people working for it, OR for people working on generic programs to keep compatibility between 3 versions + stock...16:17
Estel_it's ok for me16:17
freemangordonEstel_, it would be different in reality, CSSU-devel, goes to either -testing or -extras, along with going to -thumb16:18
freemangordonthere are 3 repos to be really maintained (as merlin1991 said)16:19
Estel_yea, understand that16:47
Estel_but everyone writing program would need to make it compatible with cssu, cssu extras, cssu thumb, and stock16:47
Estel_even now, writing simple ereswap, I've hit problem with non- busybox-power users16:48
Estel_(frankly, busybox-power should be part of CSSU for ages, as it don't provide any regressions)16:48
Estel_I can only imagine what will happen, when more complicated apps will start to appear16:49
Estel_for all 4 versions (cssu variants and stock)16:49
Estel_I bet at the end everything written will be aimed at cssu-extras-thumb variant16:49
Estel_with "it may work with other variants, although wasn't tested by me and I'm not interested in doing so"16:50
Estel_= enforcing users to either sit on stock obsolete, or full CSSU, with intermediate cssu variants being obsolete this or other way around16:51
Estel_no matter if all-mighty maintainers like it, or not. Anyway, I don't want to start another flamewar, so...16:51
Estel_time will tell.16:51
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