| * merlin1991 scratches head about deployment of new cssu komponent | 00:05 | |
| merlin1991 | we'll need some kind of transistional package that edits /etc/ham/cataloges | 00:06 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, why is that? | 00:07 |
| merlin1991 | because currently each user who has cssu has somehting along the line of "deb http://repository.maemo... fremantle free non-free | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | but in order to deploy it we need to have "deb http://repository.maemo... fremantle free replace non-free | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that is above my comprehension abilities :) | 00:10 |
| merlin1991 | lucky you ;) | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | damn, 4 3.2GHz cores running in parallel and still compiling Qt | 00:12 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I had 4 3.3 ghz cores running for about 1.5 hrs for qt | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | it is faster here, but still, it is Phenom II after all :) | 00:22 |
| merlin1991 | i5 :D | 00:23 |
| freemangordon | well, it takes about 45 minutes, but i guess it depends on RAM and HDD too | 00:25 |
| merlin1991 | hm ssd | 00:29 |
| merlin1991 | 8 gigs | 00:29 |
| merlin1991 | don't see anything slowing me down there :D | 00:29 |
| freemangordon | then it seems i5 is slower than phenom | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | And I am running SB under vmware, so i have an additional penalty | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, could you chage the repository description to be CSSU-testing (thumb) | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | or something like that | 00:35 |
| merlin1991 | in the .install? sure | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | I made it Community SSU (testing-thumb) | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | ok, great | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | uploading qt in repo | 00:38 |
| freemangordon | ;) | 00:38 |
| * merlin1991 hopes the repo is set up properly | 00:39 | |
| freemangordon | will see :) | 00:39 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, something is KO, files does not appear after copying, and i cannot do chmod | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | mayde directory permissions | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | *maybe | 00:48 |
| merlin1991 | lemme see them logs | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | nothing in the logs | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | i didn't copied .changes | 00:49 |
| merlin1991 | oh :D | 00:49 |
| merlin1991 | ooops | 00:50 |
| freemangordon | ? | 00:50 |
| merlin1991 | I forgot to give groups writepermissions on the folder | 00:51 |
| merlin1991 | you were in the right group, the group was assigned to the oflder | 00:51 |
| merlin1991 | but you couldn't write | 00:51 |
| merlin1991 | xD | 00:51 |
| freemangordon | nice :D | 00:51 |
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| freemangordon | is id ok now | 00:52 |
| freemangordon | *it is | 00:52 |
| merlin1991 | yeü | 00:52 |
| merlin1991 | *yep | 00:52 |
| merlin1991 | seems today is typoday :D | 00:52 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:52 |
| amiconn | freemangordon: I'd like to try thumb, but only when kp gets the fix | 00:59 |
| freemangordon | amiconn, gues which kernel i am going to ise as a base :P | 01:05 |
| freemangordon | *use | 01:05 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, qt is in repo, let me check if I could do apt-get upgrade | 01:15 |
| freemangordon | Get:4 http://maemo.merlin1991.at fremantle/free libqt4-declarative 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu6-thumb0 [1125kB] | 01:19 |
| freemangordon | :) | 01:20 |
| freemangordon | everything seems ok | 01:20 |
| merlin1991 | yep seems to be ok | 01:25 |
| freemangordon | going to put other stuff too | 01:25 |
| merlin1991 | go ahead and have fun :D | 01:25 |
| freemangordon | 10x :) | 01:25 |
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| ivgalvez | I don't really like the idea of a different repo (fork) | 11:59 |
| ivgalvez | unless you consider that as CSSU-Devel | 12:00 |
| freemangordon | ivgalvez, that is not a real fork. And lets see how it will develop, after all I may be wrong and thumb is not stable | 12:01 |
| ivgalvez | we are happy ginea pigeons | 12:02 |
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| freemangordon | :D | 12:13 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: did you post on tmo already? | 12:13 |
| freemangordon | nope | 12:14 |
| freemangordon | I am not ready with all the packages | 12:14 |
| merlin1991 | and the mp ;) | 12:14 |
| freemangordon | yep | 12:15 |
| merlin1991 | btw did you add the thumb errater depends to all packages? | 12:15 |
| freemangordon | no, I will do it mp- package | 12:16 |
| freemangordon | *in mp- | 12:16 |
| merlin1991 | technically it shoud be on each thumb package | 12:16 |
| freemangordon | hmm, correct, but I still don't have such kernel | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | because the way it is currently apt would only remove the mp in case you install an invalid kernel package | 12:17 |
| freemangordon | once I have it, i will add the dependency | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | k | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | just came around to announce our meeting on the mailinglist | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | I totally forgot about that :D | 12:18 |
| freemangordon | :D | 12:20 |
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| ivgalvez | I understan that the kernel in thumb repository will be the same than KP | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | yep | 12:29 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 12:29 |
| ivgalvez | wouldn't it be better to first include errata in KP at devel? | 12:29 |
| ivgalvez | so there is no need to have yet another kernel | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | why is that? | 12:30 |
| merlin1991 | the problem is that the repo has to work even if the user disabled -devel | 12:30 |
| ivgalvez | yep | 12:30 |
| ivgalvez | you're right | 12:30 |
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| freemangordon | that first, and as we need community kernel soon or later, that will be a good start | 12:31 |
| Jaffa | Morning all | 12:31 |
| merlin1991 | morning jaffa :D | 12:31 |
| freemangordon | morning | 12:31 |
| ivgalvez | morning | 12:31 |
| ivgalvez | freemangordon: then the kernel in thumb repo will substitute Nokia's kernel? | 12:32 |
| ivgalvez | I understood that the idea was to keep KP with extra features (including errata) and provide a substitute for Nokia's kernel only ith bugfixes (including errata) | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | no | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | why should we maintain 2 kernels | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | what is better to have both KP and omap? | 12:33 |
| ivgalvez | it's ok for me not to maintain two kernels, it's been years since last time I used Nokia's | 12:34 |
| freemangordon | *why | 12:34 |
| ivgalvez | just asking | 12:34 |
| merlin1991 | ivgalvez: we might introduce a kernel in the future that is only omap1 + fixes, but atm we have no kernel at all in cssu, and for -thumb we'll rely on KP | 12:35 |
| ivgalvez | my prediction is that most of TMO users will switch to -thumb very soon | 12:36 |
| merlin1991 | we'll see | 12:37 |
| freemangordon | hmm, lets see | 12:37 |
| freemangordon | :D | 12:37 |
| merlin1991 | there are plenty stable users on tmo aswell | 12:37 |
| ivgalvez | yes for Stable | 12:37 |
| ivgalvez | but no one will use Testing | 12:37 |
| merlin1991 | and I don't hink they'll jump to thumb that easily | 12:37 |
| merlin1991 | well essentially everybody will still use Testing :D | 12:37 |
| merlin1991 | only that a few pakages are thumb aswell | 12:38 |
| ivgalvez | yes, at some point, all the thmb stuff (if proved to work) should then be moved to Testing, maybe with the omap1+bugfixes kernel | 12:38 |
| merlin1991 | nah | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | if it turns out that most of the people use thumb and it is stable, then why not, we only need merlin1991 and DocScrutinizer to re-consider their position :P | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | but not with omap1 kernel | 12:39 |
| merlin1991 | there is a reason why I am against moving thumb support into the current cssu repo | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | there is noone to maintain it AFAIK | 12:39 |
| Raimu | Remember to provide a multiboot enabled kernel too | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991, yes, we discussed that | 12:40 |
| Raimu | If that is a possibility. | 12:40 |
| freemangordon | adn why you need MB when we have (almost) upstream u-boot? | 12:40 |
| ivgalvez | maintenance is very relative, consider that what is maintained now could be unmaintained in just a matter of days if it's developer moves or whatever | 12:40 |
| ivgalvez | about uboot, there should be a proper path for Nitdroid users to move from their existing multiboot configuration | 12:41 |
| freemangordon | ivgalvez, I am not against omap1 clone in CSSU, just don't know who will maintain it. Not me for sure and I never heard Pali to want to do it | 12:41 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I think nitroid still relies on multiboot | 12:42 |
| Raimu | freemangordon: Um, dunno. To be honest I installed MB way back when and haven't gone around to switching since I also installed NITdroid. | 12:42 |
| freemangordon | nah, Pali said it has Nitdroid booting through u-boot | 12:42 |
| ivgalvez | yes, but before forcing uboot, there shoud be a thread on TMO to encourage people to migrate | 12:42 |
| ivgalvez | and a proper how to | 12:42 |
| freemangordon | and migration path for current MB user is something Pali (being u-boot maintainer) should consider | 12:43 |
| ivgalvez | Pali ping | 12:43 |
| Raimu | I would migrate right away, I guess, if it was something that came with instructions and wasn't terribly likely to mess me up many times. | 12:43 |
| ivgalvez | Raimu: Me too | 12:44 |
| ivgalvez | but there is a ton of Nitdroid users | 12:44 |
| ivgalvez | that will be painfull | 12:44 |
| * Raimu is off to read up the latest on uboot | 12:48 | |
| Jaffa | ivgalvez: There are *thousands* of N900 users who don't read TMO, actively use their device and even actively download stuff from Extras (hence the reason why CSSU Stable should be advertised on banners across maemo.org) | 12:52 |
| ivgalvez | Jaffa: even though there will be people that won't notice | 12:53 |
| ivgalvez | A possible solution would be to promote a package up to Extras to install CSSU, something like a "Maemo 5 Community Upgrade" package that install the repo and CSSU Stable | 12:55 |
| Jaffa | ivgalvez: "won't notice"? | 12:55 |
| ivgalvez | those who don't enter on TMO but install stuff from Extras | 12:56 |
| Jaffa | ivgalvez: Agreed. But not sure what that's got to do with maintainership of apps or changing to thumb | 12:56 |
| ivgalvez | Jaffa: I changed subject :D | 13:03 |
| ivgalvez | regarding the banner | 13:04 |
| ivgalvez | and the promotion of CSSU | 13:04 |
| Jaffa | ivgalvez: Ah :) | 13:08 |
| Pali | ivgalvez, pong | 13:11 |
| ivgalvez | Pali: ping | 13:13 |
| ivgalvez | We were talking about including errata in KP and Community Kernel | 13:14 |
| ivgalvez | if a -thumb repo is enabled including KP + errata, that would require to install another kernel besides KP | 13:15 |
| ivgalvez | would you then stop maintaing KP in repos as it's now a pain in the ass each time you want to promote it? | 13:15 |
| ivgalvez | The other question is about uboot and Nitdroid | 13:16 |
| ivgalvez | moving to uboot for KP + errata would require existing Nitdroid users to migrate from multiboot to uboot | 13:17 |
| ivgalvez | that won't be easy | 13:17 |
| Pali | ivgalvez, migrating nitdroid users from multiboot to u-boot will require reinstall nitdroid I think | 13:30 |
| Pali | but on nitdroid is working vakkov | 13:30 |
| Pali | and he will prepair nitdroid image with u-boot bootmenu entry for easy install | 13:31 |
| Pali | you can comtact him at #nitdroid | 13:31 |
| Pali | about kernel (power|community|...), if it will be in extra repo I can maintain it with needed thumb2 patch | 13:32 |
| Pali | I belive that OBS will be working and allow us to create repository like: "Maemo5 repo with thumb binaries" | 13:33 |
| amiconn | Is nitdroid actually usable for anything else than just testing? | 13:56 |
| ivgalvez | amiconn: It's nice for gaming | 13:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | shipping a CSSU-introducer pkg to extras is a dead symple thing to do, no? | 14:50 |
| merlin1991 | kinda | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | clone one of the megaton of website-bookmark-pkgs, let URL point to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 14:51 |
| merlin1991 | it's dead simple to have it blow in your face though | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: nah! | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | not my approach | 14:52 |
| merlin1991 | which would be what? | 14:52 |
| merlin1991 | places a bookmark on the desktop? | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | clone one of the megaton of website-bookmark-pkgs, let URL point to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet X-Fade would allow us to skip quarantine even ;-D | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | even better: directly open the website http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU during install, via postinstall script | 14:56 |
| merlin1991 | dbus-send ftw | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's _all_ it does, besides failing (throw error so it doesn't count as installed) | 14:57 |
| merlin1991 | hm doesn't an error in postinst make the pkg be partly installed? | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't think so | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | what's a partially installed pkg by apt's view? | 14:58 |
| merlin1991 | nfc | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's either installed or not installed? | 14:59 |
| merlin1991 | whenever I have such fail I immediately go fixing :D | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, as usually the 'install' actually changed things | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | ours won't | 14:59 |
| merlin1991 | I can look into it what dpkg / apt / ham thinks of a package that fails during one of the install scripts | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | it *only* invokes microb with http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine :-D | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, we actually should create a landing page for this introducer, like http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU__from-extras | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | then just forward to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, of we don't need special announcements | 15:02 |
| merlin1991 | yea | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | like "you'll be forwarded to CSSU wiki in 10s. PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO CLOSE HAM!" | 15:03 |
| merlin1991 | that isn't even necessary afaik | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | prolly not | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | just gices us a hook where to place such stuff IF we need | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | gives* DAMN | 15:04 |
| merlin1991 | I'd place a big fat: DON'T FORGET TO *NOT* USE FAPMAN :D | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | time for 12648430 ☕ | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ok, I got a third device now, I can test all sorts of shite, like clicking install while HAM open | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I also finally permanently blacklisted cdc_ether so flashing shouldn't be the PITA it used to be | 15:07 |
| merlin1991 | which dist do yo uuse? | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | (you noticed I updated wiki for that?) | 15:07 |
| merlin1991 | on kubuntu I never had such problems | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | suse | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | buntkuh *cough* | 15:08 |
| merlin1991 | well I need .deb based for scratchbox | 15:09 |
| merlin1991 | and recent drivers thanks to my hw | 15:09 |
| merlin1991 | thus buntkuh :/ | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | I once tried to help a friend with his buntkuh system. Drove me mad to browse thru 47 configuration apps to find out where he could manage his locale | 15:09 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 15:09 |
| merlin1991 | actually that stuff is easy now | 15:10 |
| merlin1991 | kde has a central conf app | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | suse always had | 15:10 |
| merlin1991 | though that isn't exactly a pro suse argument ,) | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | and always had way better localization, and better audio support | 15:11 |
| merlin1991 | "we did it better in the past" --> whatabout now? :D | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | after all suse inc. contributed to ALSA a lot | 15:11 |
| merlin1991 | but yea audio support in buntkuh is gay | 15:11 |
| merlin1991 | untill you apt-get remove --purge pluseaudio | 15:11 |
| merlin1991 | and suddenly it's all fine :D | 15:11 |
| merlin1991 | though I need a lil of .asoundrc hackery in order to get flash sound into my usb headset | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | who's going to build the acme cssu-introducer pkg? | 15:14 |
| merlin1991 | I suppose the autobuilder? :D | 15:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | I probably could tweak starhash-enabler, but I haven't touched stuff since 2 yeras | 15:14 |
| merlin1991 | I do debian packages while sleeping now | 15:17 |
| merlin1991 | have tweaked far too many packaging scripts for my liking :D | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | btw I haven't found your invitation mail for monday's CSSU-extras discussion, on community ML | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | or devel-ML | 15:17 |
| merlin1991 | it's on devel-ml | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 15:18 |
| merlin1991 | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2012-May/028894.html | 15:18 |
| merlin1991 | kinda forgot about it and sent it out today | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | that'S why I didn't find it yesterday | 15:18 |
| merlin1991 | btw I'm offline from within an hour till sat evening | 15:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | YAY | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | any particular rason? ;-) | 15:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | reason even | 15:46 |
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| merlin1991 | off for fun in the countryside :D | 15:48 |
| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 | next meeting: 14.05 18:00UTC topic: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae" | 15:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much :-S | 15:49 |
| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 | meeting: 14.05 18:00UTC http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developer" | 15:50 | |
| DocScrutinizer | damn | 15:50 |
| merlin1991 | max topic lenght exceeded? :D | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | nof | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | dod | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | damn | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | nod | 15:51 |
| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version (testing): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1; (stable): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo3 | next meeting: 14.05 18:00UTC" | 15:52 | |
| DocScrutinizer | meh! | 15:52 |
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| merlin1991 | hm I always deop myself | 15:52 |
| merlin1991 | not via chanserv, no idea how todo it via chanserv :D | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | WTF we need "known bugs:" in topic? | 15:53 |
| merlin1991 | and don't thell me to msg help to the bot ;) | 15:53 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: it's been there ever since we got our bugtracker entry | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | /msg chanserv deop #channel | 15:53 |
| merlin1991 | it's the direct link to all open tickets against cssu | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | and | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | /msg chanserv op #channel | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | honestly such stuff should go to IRC landing page | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | which, in this case would be http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU so far | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest to change http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU__IRC, and have Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ and http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU there | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | best practice to have a dedicated IRC webpage to colect stuff like channel policies etc there, all the stuff that's simply too long for topic | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: ooh, and enjoy your countryside trip. Hope you'll not get killed by hail and tornado | 15:58 |
| * DocScrutinizer moans about IT not really smart yet today. Where's the context menu cmdline on merlin1991's context menu, where you'd enter "find weather" to initiate a traceroute, ip-locator query, and a unwetterzentrale.de lookup | 16:01 | |
| DocScrutinizer | type "find bithday" to get a spider crawl the internet to find any indication of merlin1991's birthday/age | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course also indirect references | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | so the spider has to have some intelligence obviously | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: (op, deop) I got two irc client user defined commands for that, called /opm and /dopm | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | works also geat like /opm merlin1991 | 16:06 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o merlin1991 | 16:06 | |
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| Raimu | Maybe Wolfram Alpha would know "what is merlin1991's birthday" | 16:10 |
| Raimu | Alas, not. ._. | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah, but a good approach I already considered. Alas WA is human-configured mainly | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | it doesn't have a single bit of own intelligence | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | basically a huge expert system filled with rules it can apply on the local factoid database | 16:14 |
| Raimu | Yup. | 16:14 |
| Raimu | It would know a celebrity's birthday because it's such a well-known fact, but us mere mortals... | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | no way | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I'm a celebrity but nobody knows my birthday ;-P | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | and actually I prefer it stays unknown | 16:16 |
| Raimu | :D | 16:20 |
| Raimu | It has data for me on Hollywood star birthdays but it didn't know Stephen Elop's one (it can be found on Wikipedia). :p | 16:24 |
| Raimu | So yeah, "intelligent" webcrawlers would rock the world. | 16:25 |
| amiconn | ~weather eddb | 16:38 |
| infobot | Berlin-Schoenefeld, Germany; (EDDB) 52-23N 013-31E 50M; last updated: 2012.05.11 1320 UTC; Dew Point: 57 F (14 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.03 in. Hg (1017 hPa); Relative Humidity: 39%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 84 F (29 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: Cumulonimbus clouds observed; Wind: from the SW (230 degrees) at 18 MPH (16 KT) gusting to 30 MPH (26 KT) | 16:38 |
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| dreamer | hmm, anyone else having problems with the battery monitor on n900? | 20:23 |
| dreamer | I got an update this week and now it doesn't signal when I'm charging or what the current charge is (just says APMD connected) | 20:23 |
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| ShadowJK | apmd? Is that advanced power monitor thing? | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | kill that. with fire :D | 21:17 |
| ShadowJK | I was going to say that, but self-censored :) | 21:18 |
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| Sc0rpius | hi | 23:04 |
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