IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2012-03-20

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merlin1991just reached X-Fade14:13
merlin1991repo is working again14:13
MohammadAGmerlin1991: You uploading a new stable?14:16
MohammadAGWell, uploaded to be precise14:16
MohammadAGHmm, these are testing logs, why did I get them now...14:16
merlin1991MohammadAG: because X-Fade just fixed the incoming queue14:18
MohammadAGWait, so the update wasn't out till today?14:19
Lava_Croftupdate?14:19
MohammadAGMaemo.org's breaking down14:19
MohammadAGYes, T214:20
Lava_Crofthow is the escape plan coming along?14:20
Lava_Croftfor maemo.org functionality14:20
MohammadAGBail when it sinks14:20
merlin1991MohammadAG: yes update wasn't out till today14:20
Lava_CroftBut where do i swim to14:20
merlin1991or better till a few mins ago14:20
MohammadAGLava_Croft: Watch the titanic, it'll help14:20
merlin1991Lava_Croft: there are a few backups of the maemo.org repos on several servers14:21
Lava_Croftyeah, i have a personal one14:21
merlin1991we could start serving at any point in time14:21
MohammadAGWhat about the forums?14:21
Lava_Croftyeah, thats what i mean14:21
MohammadAGHmm, there's 4chan I guess14:21
Lava_Croftthe entire maemo.org functionality14:21
merlin1991there's always 4chan ;)14:21
Lava_Croftnot just the repos, thats probably the easiest part14:21
Lava_Croftwould be nice to take over a 4chan board with maemo people14:22
MohammadAGBacking up the wiki would be a wise move tbh14:22
MohammadAGIt's the biggest loss if Maemo.org goes down at some point in time14:22
Lava_Croftforums and wiki, yeah14:22
MohammadAGThough I suggest killing meego.com and moving that to tmo14:22
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merlin1991MohammadAG: I wonder why you get those emails14:36
merlin1991silly system never emails me when I upload stable :D14:37
MohammadAGmerlin1991: It emails the maintainer, when you upload stuff you spam my inbox14:39
merlin1991but in stable 2 I did fix the maintainer in a few packages14:39
merlin1991still didn't recive mail14:40
MohammadAGHmm, no idea, afaik it emailed a nokian once14:40
RaimuHumms. I can't update to T2, because app man claims there's some oldish version of libclutter missing?14:40
RaimuA lib by that exact name string can't be pulled from a repo.14:41
MohammadAGHmm14:42
RaimuI wonder if there's a borked dependency there, there is a "Libclutter-1.0-0" in extras, but not "libclutter".14:42
* merlin1991 checks dependency14:43
merlin1991MohammadAG: you failed at the libclutterdependncy14:44
MohammadAGSigh14:44
MohammadAGFinish class in 75 mins14:44
Lava_Croftprotip: use testers14:45
merlin1991is libclutter (>= 0.8.2-0maemo67+0m5) and should be libclutter-0.8-0 (>= wtf is there in the repos14:45
merlin1991Raimu: fix will be up soon14:56
merlin1991Lava_Croft: protip -testing is a repo for testers ;)14:56
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Raimumerlin, k!15:06
merlin1991Raimu: new metapackage is in the repo15:20
merlin1991it 'should' work now15:21
RaimuWorks.15:41
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amiconnHmm, the new CSSU doesn't want to install OTA?16:19
amiconn(testing)16:19
merlin1991amiconn: do a refresh in ham16:21
merlin1991there was a faulty metapackage16:22
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amiconnAh, that worked, thanks16:33
* amiconn thought HAM would refresh automatically when entering the update list, given how long that takes16:34
merlin1991amiconn: ham does that refresh based on a time value16:35
merlin1991I think about 2 hours16:35
merlin1991so if you've refreshed the list from the repos in the last 2 hours (via ham) then it doesn't check16:35
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merlin1991freemangordon_: ping17:50
freemangordon_merlin1991 pong18:07
merlin1991you made me flinch when I saw the version number you assigned to libclutter18:08
freemangordon_well, i've just raised 66 to 67, did't change anything18:10
freemangordon_or I made some mistake?18:10
merlin1991but you kept the +0m5 postfix18:10
freemangordon_yeah, why not?18:10
merlin1991well everything before the + is upstream18:11
freemangordon_shall we append -cssu for all packages?18:11
merlin1991yes18:11
merlin1991should have been blbla+0m5-cssu018:11
freemangordon_aren't we upstream now?18:11
freemangordon_:-D18:12
merlin1991well not for stuff like libclutter :D18:12
merlin1991hildon we are ofc :D18:12
merlin1991but all the libs we use I'd say we should honor upstream18:12
freemangordon_ok, will keep that in mind18:12
merlin1991we actually should have talked about this earlier when we started cssu18:13
freemangordon_I am not much into debian packaging18:13
merlin1991I think we have 3 different version schemes on the packages18:13
freemangordon_well, add this to agenda for the next meeting18:14
merlin1991need to fix a meeting date first .D18:15
freemangordon_so we can put naming scheme written somewhere for reference18:15
merlin1991yeah18:15
freemangordon_then fix it before it is too late :-P18:15
merlin1991well we can always sanitize old packages with an epoch18:16
merlin1991but in general we need a scheme for new packages that end up in cssu18:16
freemangordon_I am ok either way, I really doesn't care how the package is called, once it is bug-free.18:17
freemangordon_after all it is maintainer's job :-D18:18
merlin1991hehe18:20
merlin1991okay time to try the updat with the new ham18:21
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freemangordonmerlin1991, could you pull https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/libxml2/ into CSSU?20:19
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MohammadAGfreemangordon, pushing20:33
freemangordonMohammadAG, thanks20:33
MohammadAGfreemangordon, https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libxml220:34
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freemangordonMohammadAG, maybe it is my mistake, but what we need is fremantle branch :(20:38
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freemangordonMohammadAG ^^^20:42
DocScrutinizerWHAT. USA paid 100 rubel for each demonstrator against Putin??? Putin, you idiot, it's been ME! USA is way too broke to do that20:46
DocScrutinizer1000 rubel even, accordin to MTV20:47
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DocScrutinizeror whatever that bullshit tv station's name20:47
shanttuhi. i just updated cssu testing. neither does this or previous version let me connect to internet at all. connectnow-widgets doesn't do anything and when i try from status-menu it doesn't even open the "select connection" menu20:47
freemangordonconnectnow-widgets ?20:48
shanttui've created backup just before updating and that works as it should20:48
freemangordonWTH is that?20:48
DocScrutinizerlame Putin lame! We expected better stuff from you than Ghadafi rhetoric20:48
shanttufreemangordon, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=4762320:49
shanttuthose are great20:49
freemangordonDocScrutinizer, how exactly are Putin and MTV (or whtever the shitty tv is called) related to CSSU?20:49
DocScrutinizerby me ;-D20:49
shanttuwtf are you talking about =)20:49
freemangordonaah, I see20:49
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Sicelodamn widgets!20:50
freemangordonshanttu, are you sure it is not that widged that is problematic?20:50
freemangordon*widget20:50
DocScrutinizerI bet20:50
shanttui cannot see how they could be related  because the menu should work20:51
DocScrutinizerprobably hardlinked against HD20:51
DocScrutinizer;-P20:51
freemangordonshanttu, could you uninstall them and try in usual way20:51
shanttui'll purge them and try after reboot20:51
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer, what do you mean hard-linked?20:51
DocScrutinizerusing some absolute entry point addr20:52
freemangordonhmm, nicolai is the author, i doubt he is that lame20:53
DocScrutinizerooh, then prolly not20:53
freemangordonyeah20:53
DocScrutinizerthough even he shot one or two fat birds20:53
freemangordon:D20:54
DocScrutinizerwell, I could easily figure any kind of postinst script that configures stuff for the given system, esp ICD2 and HD20:55
DocScrutinizerso simply reinstalling might help20:55
freemangordonshanttu, which version of connectnow-home-widget do yo uuse?20:56
DocScrutinizertbh widgets tended to break for me with every (even stock) major update20:56
shanttufreemangordon, purged and rebooted already20:56
DocScrutinizerQB carefully designed buttons: gone20:57
DocScrutinizer(this been 1.2 -> 1.3 iirc)20:57
freemangordonok, but where did you install connectnow-home-widget, extras or extras-devel20:57
DocScrutinizerwidgets are crap really20:57
shanttuextras-devel i assume because it's enabled20:57
freemangordonso? are you able to connect to inet?20:58
freemangordonMohammadAG, ping20:58
shanttufreemangordon, nope. status menu -> internet connections -> nothing20:59
shanttudoesn't give the menu/window20:59
MohammadAGfreemangordon, pong20:59
freemangordonMohammadAG, I need fremantle branch of libxml220:59
DocScrutinizershanttu: now that's weird20:59
freemangordon:nod:20:59
freemangordonshanttu, do you have syslog installed?21:00
DocScrutinizershanttu: try settings -> internet -> [connections]21:01
shanttufreemangordon, thought i did but not anymore. i see what can i do with my spare device21:03
shanttuDocScrutinizer, and from settings?21:03
DocScrutinizerplease rephrase21:04
freemangordonMohammadAG, just pull fremantle branch from https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/libxml2 and push is as master in CSSU repo21:04
freemangordon*push it21:04
MohammadAGfreemangordon, it's pushing atm21:05
freemangordonaah, ok21:05
freemangordonthere was no feedback :)21:05
MohammadAGfreemangordon, no feedback is better for the user till something's done :P21:05
DocScrutinizerwrong21:06
freemangordonerr, user?21:06
freemangordonme?21:06
freemangordonok, if you say so :D21:06
DocScrutinizerTCP usually way better than UDP, unless for high bandwidth low reliability connections21:07
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freemangordonMohammadAG, BTW DocScrutinizer is correct, anytime having feedback is better, even if is "nothing is done, but we plan to work on it"21:07
DocScrutinizerwhere "high" is relative to available BW21:08
DocScrutinizerEEEK my mouse shows red battery21:11
freemangordonshanttu, you have to provide some information on your problem, and I would recommend to open a ticket on the bugtracker21:12
DocScrutinizerumm21:12
shanttufreemangordon, i will install syslog. what other information to provide (cssu versions of course)21:13
DocScrutinizerI'd first check if WLAN is working at all21:13
freemangordonDocScrutinizer, he said the think broke after installing CSSU21:13
DocScrutinizeryup21:13
shanttuDocScrutinizer, it really did break after it21:13
MohammadAGgrr21:13
DocScrutinizerwe got new wlan stuff in recent testing, no?21:13
freemangordonI think so, but better ask Pali21:14
shanttunow when i restore a backup which was made 10 mins a go it will work. done many times but now i tried with the latest21:14
DocScrutinizershanttu: you by any chance installed improved WLAN driver?21:14
freemangordonwell, we didn't have anything wlan related in previous updates21:15
DocScrutinizerfor stuff like aircrack etc?21:15
shanttuDocScrutinizer, actually might have long time ago. is it used by default if installed?21:15
freemangordonshould not be used21:16
freemangordonAFAIK21:16
freemangordonshanttu, you said you have a spare n900?21:16
DocScrutinizerwe as well replaced the original stuff, at least partially21:16
DocScrutinizerI'd check syslog, and a proper ps aux21:16
shanttufreemangordon, yes. just bought.21:17
freemangordonwell, I would recommend to install CSSU in it and check if it works there21:17
MohammadAGfreemangordon, any idea how to push current branch as master on remote?21:17
freemangordonif everything is fine (and it should be), then install the same applications as on your primary device, one by one21:18
freemangordonto see which one is the bugger21:18
freemangordonremote:master?21:18
freemangordonMohammadAG ^^^21:18
shanttufreemangordon, lot to install but yes i'll try to debug it down21:18
freemangordonlet me ask google, I am not git guru21:18
MohammadAGgit push git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/libxml2.git fremantle remote:master?21:19
MohammadAGI'm googling but still not sure21:19
freemangordonshanttu, as you are the only one reporting it, I just cannot imagine any other way to track the bugger21:19
shanttufreemangordon, yep21:20
freemangordonMohammadAG, or you can delete branch master (could you?) and then branch fremantle to master. locally21:20
* DocScrutinizer idly wonders when the new T will pop up in HAM/status21:20
freemangordonMohammadAG, let me try that here21:21
MohammadAGfreemangordon, done21:22
MohammadAGpushing21:22
MohammadAGfreemangordon, good?21:23
freemangordonlet me check21:24
freemangordonMohammadAG, looks good, going to diff it against maemo repo sources (i've already done it with the original repo, but just in case). Will report when ready21:26
freemangordonMohammadAG, looks perfect21:29
MohammadAGfreemangordon, yay :)21:30
freemangordonBTW the source in maemo repos contains .orig and .diff files21:30
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freemangordonMohammadAG, commit pushed, now it needs only updated debian/changelog21:50
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