IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2012-03-13

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merlin1991bah02:17
merlin1991I'm dissappointed by bioware02:17
javispedrome3 sucks02:17
javispedroI don't need to play it to know02:17
javispedro:)02:17
javispedroGAN will certainly be thrilled by this02:18
merlin1991the game is nice but teh ending is dissapointing02:18
javispedrolet me guess: it is basically fixed whatever you did in me1 and me2 :)02:19
merlin1991it builds up all that you're going todo it despite all odds, but in the end you can't survive :/02:19
merlin1991you can save pretty much everyone but you :(02:19
merlin1991I also hate the fact that I had to turn down the difficulty for the last 10 mins of gameplay02:21
merlin1991I played the whole damn thing on insane, and then in the last sequenze they just spawn bosses all the time that take longer to kill (with maximum damage output) than you have time02:22
merlin1991I just feel betrayed that I played through 3 games and still don't get my happy ending02:23
merlin1991I must say the Deus Ex ending didn't feel that wrong, because you don't really get attached to the character, even though it's still the same scheme02:25
merlin1991you get 3 choices and none is a proper ending for your character02:26
merlin1991but enough of me3, time to merge some h-d commits :D02:27
MohammadAGhmm, bad endings, lemme remember02:43
javispedroheh, if you play in insane then you're not my kind of player02:44
MohammadAGKillzone 3, shows the fact they can make a Killzone 4, probably on the vita so you buy that02:44
MohammadAGPortal 2, best ending eva02:44
javispedropssht :)02:44
MohammadAGwould've been fun if it tracked moon shape and said "Replay the game in 15 days unless you can aim like an eagle"02:45
javispedroah, that part was cool indeed02:46
javispedrowas thinking on the actual ending02:46
MohammadAGthe corn field? nah, should've been tomatoes02:46
javispedrooh, that part was cool indeed /me goes find the music02:46
MohammadAGI Want You Gone javispedro02:46
javispedro(heehee http://t.co/bLBl6kDW )02:47
* MohammadAG hates shortened links02:48
MohammadAGwhy? cause my DNS sucks at resolving them02:48
javispedronot disagreeing02:48
javispedrobut getting a usable link from twitter is an adventure02:48
MohammadAGoh, twitter returned that?02:48
MohammadAGweak02:48
MohammadAGI still want one of those :(02:49
javispedrowell since I've slowed down with sowatch few have complained02:52
javispedrothe firmware development environment has only recently been released and seems overly complex02:52
MohammadAGso it still can't shoot lasers then?02:55
MohammadAGand by shoot lasers I mean guide missiles from the watch02:55
merlin1991javispedro: what kind of player are you? :D02:56
javispedroMohammadAG: hum .... *goes look at price of usb-based missile launchers*02:56
javispedromerlin1991: the bad one kind02:56
javispedrohad a hard time @ suicide mission... in normal difficulty :)02:57
merlin1991played it through on insane .D02:58
javispedro(not that I enjoy shooters... me1 I enjoyed, me2 I dragged myself through it because of the story and few rpg stuff left, me3 I'm not buying)03:00
MohammadAGMass Effect is a shooter right?03:04
MohammadAGcause I hate RPGs03:04
javispedroit was a mix between a rpg and a shooter, evolving to a plain shooter frm 2 onwards03:04
merlin1991yep03:06
merlin1991me1 was awesome, form there it only went downwards03:06
merlin1991s/form/from/03:06
infobotmerlin1991 meant: me1 was awesome, from there it only went downwards03:06
merlin1991though it at least was still story driven in me203:07
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Lava_Croftmass effect is an rpg for people who dont like rpgs, but for for whom playing a shooter does not gain enough social status09:03
Lava_Crofthence they hide behind the mask of an empty, shallow post y2k bioware 'rpg'09:03
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merlin1991Lava_Croft: that is why I have more game time on RO2 than on mass effect :D15:41
ivgalvezAnnoying. TMO down again15:41
merlin1991like ususal :D15:42
ivgalvezwith all the administrative problems we have, it might be a good idea to start a backup place15:45
ivgalvezmaybe something more general15:45
ivgalvezsuch as Open Mobile devices15:46
ivgalvezso it could fit not only to Maemo devices but Nemo, Tizen, Open Pandora15:46
ivgalvezand share resources with others15:46
sam23mback up +115:47
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gulyshe's up!16:34
sam23mwoohooooo16:35
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ivgalvezalmost 7 hours down16:54
merlin1991freemangordon: ping17:01
freemangordonmerlin1991, pong17:02
merlin1991the new h-d only benefits from update clutter but does not require it, right?17:02
freemangordonyep17:03
freemangordonbut it is better to depend on it, I don't want unnecessary bug reports17:03
merlin1991(currently merging h-d)17:03
freemangordonBTW there is a MR for hildon-home too17:04
merlin1991okay will look into that one aswell17:04
freemangordononce tose are merged I will make .debs and will push them in the "repo to be"17:05
freemangordon*those17:05
merlin1991btw if you want testers you can hand out the url on tmo for the brave souls :)17:05
freemangordonWell, I would rather wait you to be ready with the repo, I really hope you will do it these days.17:06
freemangordonBTW isn't there a way someone else to help you?17:06
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freemangordonmerlin1991, throwing the url on TMO is a bad idea, having in mind there are not only .debs but all the stuff dpkg-buildpackage is producing, just imagine the questions :D17:08
merlin1991true :D17:08
ivgalvezDon't worry, trisha02 will install it and report...17:20
freemangordonivgalvez, BTW where this kid disappear?17:31
freemangordon:D17:31
freemangordonShe was so active on TMO17:31
merlin1991even better question who is trisha02? :D17:33
* merlin1991 should read more tmo17:33
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merlin1991MohammadAG: ping17:42
MohammadAGpong17:43
merlin1991you could start building the new -testing17:43
merlin1991I can give you a list, just have to prepare 3 more repos but we should be good to go17:43
merlin1991freemangordon: whatabout ke-recv ready for -testing?17:46
ivgalvezI really need ke-recv17:47
ivgalvezit should allow to mount ext4 on boot, shouldn't it?17:47
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merlin1991also freemangordon whatabout the osso-pdf-reader l10n?18:43
merlin1991Pali ping18:54
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freemangordonmerlin1991, ker-recv seems ready for -testing19:22
freemangordonthere is one more issue, but methinks it is related to h-e-n/libhildonfm19:22
freemangordonMohammadAG, ping19:23
MohammadAGpong19:23
freemangordonYou can find some pre-build .debs here http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/develdebs/19:24
freemangordonmerlin1991, ping19:42
merlin1991freemangordon: pong19:45
freemangordonmerlin1991, I was under the impression that arcean made some changes in h-d besides my fixes, seems I was wring :)19:45
freemangordon*wrong19:45
Raimu-XSomething in particular to test in those debs?19:46
freemangordonRaimu-X, well, look at changelog, if you find something interesting... Otherwise those are candidate-testing19:47
freemangordonshould be stable anyway19:47
Raimu-XVery well.19:48
freemangordonYou can wait a little bit until i upload h-d and h-h (if you wish)19:49
Raimu-XI'll wait as I'm not home anyways.19:49
freemangordon:)19:49
freemangordonmerlin1991, are you going to update debian/changelog for h-h or me to do it?19:52
merlin1991changelog is updated19:55
merlin1991commit order isn't perfect though19:56
freemangordon:) thanks19:56
freemangordonas is the life :D19:56
merlin1991the changelog update is in arceans first commit19:56
merlin1991the other 2 are part of the same thing19:56
freemangordonaah, ok19:57
freemangordonh-d and h-h are in "repo"19:59
freemangordonmerlin1991, what about freetype?19:59
merlin1991merged is going to be part of the -testing udpate20:01
freemangordondo you want me to build anything else?20:02
merlin1991just wait for mag he should be building everything anyway20:02
freemangordonwait for mag or his lappie?20:03
freemangordon:D20:03
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Zx432Hi20:39
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Zx432Anyone?21:04
Paliping merlin199121:06
Paliping MohammadAG21:08
merlin1991pong Pali21:15
Palimerlin1991, did you included my patch for osso-xterm into -testing?21:16
merlin1991no, we said we want it within the ui21:16
Paliok21:17
merlin1991as a checkbox of the drop down menu21:17
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Zx432quick question21:18
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Zx432I am about to install ssu for the first time21:18
merlin1991...21:19
Zx432I made backup with the integrated programm21:19
Zx432And saved it on my comp hdd21:19
Zx432If the unspikable happenes,  and I brick my device how can I open my saved contacts and callendar on comp and move it to new phone??21:20
merlin1991yes and no21:21
merlin1991you can always move it to a new n90021:21
merlin1991the data also is stored in such a way that you can with a lil work move the content to any phone21:21
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merlin1991but most importantly we don't do anything to the phone that can't be fixed with a reflash21:22
merlin1991so you're not going to brick your n900 beyond repair with the cssu21:22
Zx432That is nice. :)21:22
Zx432I have no doubt in you. I doubt me.21:22
Zx432Another question from a silly noob: What do I gain? I read the logs, but since I am not a good programmer I am not totally clear on that.21:25
merlin1991you read http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU21:25
merlin1991especially the installtion part ;)21:25
merlin1991s/installtion/installation/21:25
infobotmerlin1991 meant: especially the installation part ;)21:25
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Zx432Yes I did.21:27
merlin1991it's pretty straight forward, update the phone to pr 1.3 if you heaven't yet, remove modified hildon desktop if you have it installed, then open the wiki page in the n900 browser and click the testing or stable icon depending on what you prefer21:29
Zx432ok. Hoow do I know If I have hildon installed?  It would be listed in app manager?21:33
merlin1991you should remember that you did so21:33
merlin1991it doesn't install by itself ;)21:33
Zx432I know :)21:33
merlin1991or you can use "dpkg -l modified-hildon-desktop" to check from the commandline21:34
M4rtinKthe most important thing about CSSU from my perspective as a developer are probably the updated Qt libraries21:37
Zx432But let's assume I forgot. :) I used the command and got : -sh: dpg: not found21:37
Zx432I assume that means I am ok to go?21:38
merlin1991because you didn't type the k in dpkg21:38
Zx432aw21:38
Zx432sorry21:38
M4rtinKthe old Qt version in non-CSSU is quite buggy21:38
merlin1991well the Qt version we had within CSSU some time back that one was bad xD21:38
merlin1991but true 4.6.* which is stock maemo is quite bad compared to 4.7.421:39
Zx432no packages found matching modified-hildon-desktop21:39
merlin1991then you're good to go :)21:39
Zx432:)21:40
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: your webhost is awesome21:40
Zx432Thanks for help.21:40
merlin1991currently copying the pr1.2 source iso with 10M/s according to wget21:40
M4rtinKmerlin1991: also QtComponents work just like on Harmattan with CSSU Qt (there are just some missing icons right now)21:41
M4rtinKbut are very broken on stock PR 1.321:41
merlin1991afaik there are still some missing components compared to harmattan21:42
merlin1991but what runs on cssu should run pefect on harmattan21:42
M4rtinKI hit only some missing icons so far21:45
M4rtinKmaybe some labs* components or similar ?21:46
M4rtinKalso concerning the missing icons, author of the port announced, than an update will be coming at the end of the month :)21:47
merlin1991i think that is Achipa?21:48
DocScrutinizer~seen achipa21:52
infobotachipa <~attila@a91-155-190-80.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 120d 10h 1m 17s ago, saying: 'also libqtm-12 seems to have lost the promotion block so it's borked in general as it propagated to testing'.21:52
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M4rtinKthe developer goes under the nick "inean" on TMO - not sure if its the same person :)21:57
merlin1991nop that's not the same person21:57
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Zx432ok done22:22
Zx432but I cant see an< difference22:24
Zx432*any22:24
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merlin1991did you go for stable or -testing?22:28
Zx432stabile22:29
Zx432Installation was surprisingly fast.22:30
merlin1991did you have a reboot already?22:32
merlin1991or do you still have to click the button in the app launcher? ;)22:32
Zx432yes22:32
Zx432I clicked, there was a white command prompt22:32
merlin1991and then the application manager should have opened22:33
merlin1991and you should have had an update to install22:33
Zx432I had and I installed22:33
merlin1991well -stable mostly is about under the hood fixes22:33
Zx43223mb app22:33
merlin1991not so much visible stuff22:33
Zx432ah ok22:33
merlin1991but you should for example be able to enable an additional 5 desktops22:34
Zx432how?22:34
Zx432There is no orientation bar for stabile version?22:35
merlin1991desktop -> cogwheel -> manage views ->  swipe to the left -> tap the black space22:35
merlin1991there is one but it's not forced on you22:35
merlin1991you can install it via the application manager, it's under 'Desktop'22:35
Zx432Cool new desktops! :)22:36
MohammadAGZx432, who are you?22:39
MohammadAGI almost got you glined, sorta22:40
Zx432Who am I?22:40
MohammadAGwell, scratch that22:40
MohammadAGwhy did you send me OTRs?22:40
Zx432sorry22:40
MohammadAG10 others did the same and I reported them to #freenode22:40
Zx432my bad22:41
MohammadAGI thought it was a spam attack22:41
MohammadAGno, not really, blame the 10 others22:41
Zx432No I am yust silly22:41
Zx432*just22:41
Zx432I am pretty new with the whole Irc thing.22:41
gulymaybe it's just the client that tries to encrypt queries22:42
MohammadAGyou're using pidgin as someone pointed out on #freenode22:42
Zx432So please accept my sincere apology. Yes I am on pidgin.22:43
MohammadAGI should be the one apologizing, almost got you banned22:44
Zx432And I have encryption but only for msn. It shouldn't cause problems here. I am just happy you didn't ban me :)22:45
PaliMohammadAG, can you look at https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/status-area-applet-battery/merge_requests/1 ?22:46
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