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Sicelohildon-desktop in cssu stable 2  is rock-solid .. not a single crash so far20:04
Sicelo\0/20:04
merlin1991yay :)20:04
merlin1991OMFG I just realized I had mags number on my n900 all the time20:04
* merlin1991 headdesk and sends sms20:04
merlin1991obvious next step, calling :P20:10
merlin1991heya prompt answer20:13
merlin1991he's got a semster exam tomorrow and should be free after that again20:14
merlin1991GOOD NEWS ^^20:14
merlin1991anyboday with cssu-testing enabled around?20:18
merlin1991dang nobody around20:19
merlin1991DocScrutinizer51: ping20:19
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: ping too20:19
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scoobertronmerlin1991: I am on testing, I believe20:23
merlin1991could you open the rss reader and add the feed http://maemo.org/news/latest.xml20:24
merlin1991and see if the icon switches to the maemo favicon?20:24
scoobertronsure.  I just need to reinstall the feed reader first.20:24
merlin1991:D20:25
merlin1991it seems testing broke that somehow even though we didn't touch the reader at all (because it works on my stbale but not on testing)20:25
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merlin1991hey there Estel_20:27
merlin1991you might want to adjust your end of the world posts a little in the way that you stop talking about git servers ;)20:27
merlin1991the only thing hosted by maemo.org regarding cssu is the repository, git stuff is on gitorious.org20:28
merlin1991(see http://gitorious.org/community-ssu)20:28
merlin1991Pali: I saw you pushed a few commits to tv-out-control, is it still save and sound in the current state?20:29
DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: wazzup?20:30
merlin1991if you find the time please fire up the rss reader on a device with testing and check if you get a favicon for the feed http://maemo.org/news/latest.xml20:30
scoobertronmerlin1991: The icon doesn't seem to change.20:30
Palimerlin1991, should be - it is bugfix from upstream20:30
scoobertronI'm not using the stock theme if that changes anything20:31
DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: rss reader? me?20:31
merlin1991I don't think that should make a difference20:31
merlin1991DocScrutinizer51 yes :D20:31
Palibut can you test if status menu plugin working with (your) tv?20:32
DocScrutinizer51I dunno what is a RSS reader20:32
merlin1991did you really remove it?20:32
DocScrutinizer51err, I don't know20:32
DocScrutinizer51anyway, still at work, so no chance20:33
merlin1991ah k20:33
DocScrutinizer51ATM20:33
merlin1991package name would be osso-rss-feed-reader20:33
merlin1991Pali: will do, could you try the rss reader too?20:34
ThreeMi can do it also20:34
Palimerlin1991, now my n900 is in nokia care...20:34
merlin1991again?20:34
merlin1991I thought you got it back20:34
Paliyes again20:35
merlin1991what happened?20:35
merlin1991ThreeM: please do so20:35
Paliresonating vibra with open keyboard20:35
ThreeMjust a moment please :)20:36
* merlin1991 really ought to set up all the scratchbox fun on the main machine, the laptop he's using for it is so slow :/20:36
ThreeMmerlin1991 nope, it shows the rss icon, not the favicon20:38
merlin1991damn so we have a regression somewhere even though we didn't touch the rss-reader20:38
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Palimerlin1991, can you create cssu repository for ke-recv?20:41
merlin1991will do20:41
merlin1991also need to set up one for obexd20:41
merlin1991Pali:  it does not even compile20:42
Palimaybe bad merge20:42
PaliI will look at it20:43
merlin1991Pali: did `rm -rf* && git reset --hard`and it compiled again20:44
Estel_hi merlin1991, thanks for noticing it. Why 'end of the world? :D20:45
merlin1991well we don't have to move away before end of 2012 for sure (funding for maemo.org is fixed till then)20:46
Estel_I was actually quoting someone from 2-3 posts above about git servers, lol. Should m ark is as quotation20:46
merlin1991and from what I've got by talking to people we have a good chance that maemo.org will get further nokia funding20:46
Estel_would be nice as long as people maintaining it aren't paid by Nokia20:47
merlin1991I personally don't think it makes sense to move away before we know the platform is going down, imo having the repository on repository.maemo.org creates a feeling of trust for the cssu20:47
Estel_Nokia don't care, so X-Fade don't care too20:48
Estel_it's nice to take money doing only some thing once a half year20:48
Estel_basically, he's working for *us* though Nokia is paying for it20:48
Estel_yet, extreme disrespect is shown20:48
Estel_no reply for mails, IRC, bug reports about repos, whatever20:49
merlin1991I've had no problems talking to him so far20:49
Estel_I though You also tyink this way of things can't continue20:49
Estel_So, ask him to fix Pali's problem with repos20:49
merlin1991I did, and he's actually working on it20:49
Estel_or freemangordon request to maintain CSSU some time ago20:49
Estel_for half of an year?!20:49
Estel_well, maybe YZou're only one who isn't in his blacklist20:50
merlin1991xD20:50
Estel_plentora of people are trying to ping him in many ways without success for weeks or months20:50
Estel_as DocScrutinizer, Pali, o freemangordon...20:50
merlin1991about maintaining the cssu there is a technical problem with the way the servers work20:50
Estel_and that's just top of ice mountain20:50
Estel_heck, I didn't expected philosophical problem. It's always technical. Any ETA, even in ~?20:51
merlin1991I think we'll never will get a proper co maintinership for the cssu repo20:51
merlin1991also about mag, I found out I had his phone # on my n900 all the time too and wrote him today, got a life sign, and we can expect him back in a day or two20:54
Palimerlin1991, I cloned code from gitorious and compilation in madde working fine...20:55
merlin1991Pali: works in scratchbox too20:55
merlin1991seems I had some leftover in the directory that broke it20:55
merlin1991doing a clean clone fixed it20:56
Paliok20:56
merlin1991something odd happened though20:56
merlin1991I installed the package20:56
merlin1991and all widgets on my desktop went missing20:56
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Palisee syslog21:01
merlin1991don't have it enabled, dang21:02
merlin1991also the status menu applet didn't show up anymore21:02
merlin1991the scale buttons had no effect21:03
merlin1991and the desktop widget didn't realize on or off21:03
merlin1991enabled checkbox in control-panel didn't work anymore either21:03
* merlin1991 forgot reboot, ooops :$21:04
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Estel_merlin1991,  if we never could get proper co-maintainership for CSSU using current tools (repos)21:09
Estel_let's change tools21:09
Estel_today, You got sikgn of life21:09
Estel_what about another situation, when MAG could be hit by bus or some vandering rocket?21:10
Estel_or, someone else just disappear?21:10
merlin1991Pali: everything works fine21:10
Estel_such situation with one and only maintainer of flagship project (alongside kernel-power) is unacceptable IMO21:10
Estel_anyway, contributors to CSSU were really upset AFAICT21:11
Estel_and they got good reason21:11
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Estel_I may be wrong, but You seem to be one and only CSSU dev that is content about how it works now21:11
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merlin1991Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ke-recv21:18
merlin1991Sc0rpius: ping21:18
Sc0rpiuspong21:18
Sc0rpiusmerlin1991: pong21:18
merlin1991I've noticed that various input fields in modest are displayed as if you can pan to the right but you can't21:19
Sc0rpiusin landscape or in portrait mode or it doesn't matter?¿21:19
merlin1991wtf21:19
merlin1991can't reproduce now when I trie21:20
merlin1991in landscape21:20
merlin1991when editing the settings to a pop3 account21:20
merlin1991the create new dialog has proper width on all elements21:20
merlin1991also the general settings dialog in landscape as the issue21:21
Sc0rpiusweird.21:22
merlin1991I don't have forced rotation enabled21:22
merlin1991and I have the issue on testing and stable21:23
DocScrutinizer51sigh, and hi21:26
merlin1991what's the sigh about?21:26
DocScrutinizer51well, you probably don't wanna know21:27
DocScrutinizer51though I've been reading backscroll of this chan...21:27
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* Estel_ is ready to get grilled21:33
* merlin1991 sets up his webserver21:35
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  what is Your opinion oin backscrolled subject?21:37
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DocScrutinizermy opinion is that there's been lots of bad moods and unproductive namecalling lately, and some pals are really hard to get a hold on22:04
DocScrutinizerand my words were "I might CONSIDER sponsoring some server space for a few months (or even longer)", I haven't even promised to actually do it, and for sure I didn't mention all the prerequisites that I'd think were mandatory for me to take that effort and expense, e.g. somebody who *knows* how to configure and maintain a repo22:07
DocScrutinizerand is willing to do that22:07
Palimerlin1991, ok22:08
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DocScrutinizerand I agree with the argument "repository.maemo.org creates a feeling of trust for the cssu"22:09
DocScrutinizerthough I admit it's a false feeling22:10
DocScrutinizerI'd tend to suggest to set up a mirror repo on maemo.cloud-7.de, and then decide which is master and which is mirror22:11
Sc0rpiusor create a new .org domain22:18
Sc0rpiuspointing to that same .de server22:18
Sc0rpiusmaemo-cssu.org22:18
Sc0rpiusor something22:19
merlin1991maemo.merlin1991.at has a mirror22:24
Palimerlin1991, full config file for apt-mirror (with downloads.maemo.nokia.com) is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1081673&postcount=7522:29
merlin1991Pali: atm I only mirror extras and cssu22:31
Paliok, I only write link for this config...22:32
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