IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2012-01-08

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DocScrutinizerVETO for nikocam. It freezed for quite some 10s when switching from video to camera, then finally segfaulted03:31
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Lava_Croftnever did that here:<13:11
PaliDocScrutinizer, see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1147311&postcount=11113:19
Paliautomounting all paritions on SD card via ke-recv13:20
Paliworking with non FAT parts too13:20
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* amiconn would like to know why opening the camera app when opening the lens cover is like hit and miss13:53
amiconnThis is independent of which app is registered for the event13:53
NIN101Pali: cool stuff.14:06
PaliNIN101 :-)14:08
freemangordonMohammadAG ping14:16
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freemangordonmerlin1991, ping14:19
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Lava_Croftamiconn: I had that problem randomly appear some time ago15:23
Lava_Croftbut it also randomly disappeared15:23
Lava_Crofthavent run into it for months now15:23
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merlin1991freemangordon: pong19:19
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freemangordonmerlin1991, any news from MohammadAG19:49
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Palimerlin1991, can be patched ke-recv included in CSSU?19:54
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DocScrutinizerPali: great! I think I also have to have a look at ke-recv, it was a central component we had problems with regarding jrbme/h-e-n. Might suggest some further patches, so ke-recv gets a bit more flexible to do useful things for not so common usecases as well20:15
Paliok20:16
DocScrutinizerbtw you've seen my rant about nikocam?20:16
DocScrutinizerit segfaulted for me when I was in a hurry to take a photo20:16
DocScrutinizerwhich is exactly why I wasn't that happy with including it to CSSU first instance20:17
DocScrutinizerI'd prefer to have the stock camera app - which I know about its reliability - when I open lens cover. When I want to use nikocam I should be able to install a normal extras-pkg and start the app the usual way20:19
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: the nikocam on gitorious has a few possible segfaults and memleaks fixed and it's not going to stable anyway before another fix which is also on gitorious was in testing20:25
merlin1991Pali: patched ke-recv is a perfect kandidate for cssu20:25
merlin1991there should be a huge amount of testing though20:25
merlin1991I remember for example that stock cam tries to write to sd partition if sd gets mounted and that there was uid problems then and so on20:26
merlin1991(if you mount anything ext)20:26
merlin1991freemangordon: not yet20:26
DocScrutinizermerlin1991: let's not start on this topic again. I already explained why in my book it has been a poor idea to forced_replace stock camera by nikocam20:26
merlin1991DocScrutinizer: it's not going to be forcereplace anyway ;)20:27
merlin1991it's going to be a user choice just like the lock20:27
DocScrutinizergood to hear20:27
DocScrutinizermaybe I have to switch to cssu-s then ;-D20:27
merlin1991hehe20:27
merlin1991but you'd have to reflash if you follow your own advice ;)20:27
DocScrutinizeri know20:27
merlin1991freemangordon: will email mag today and see what I can get out of him20:28
DocScrutinizeras otherwise I wouldn't get back stock cam anyway20:28
merlin1991you can get it back20:28
merlin1991if you install the camera-ui from the nokia ssu repo20:28
DocScrutinizer:nod:20:29
DocScrutinizerdoesn't exactly help when next cssu-t rev will nuke it again20:29
merlin1991well you'd nuke next cssu-t with it20:29
merlin1991since you'd have to get rid of the cssu-t mp in order to install the nokia version20:30
DocScrutinizer:nod:20:30
DocScrutinizerunacceptable20:30
merlin1991but you could repack the original camera-ui with a version numberjump then you'd have it forever20:30
merlin1991add an epoch in the version install that package and cssu-t won't overwrite it anymore20:31
merlin1991and also no problem with mp since mp always depends on > latestcssu20:31
DocScrutinizerPali: first cursory look at patch diff makes me think it's all fine20:49
Paliok20:50
Palithere is one small problem: Integrated osso-browser does not show SD card icon, but show that each partitions is N900 device20:50
Pali*osso-file-manager20:50
Paliit is because it thinks that SD card can be mounted only to /media/mmc120:51
Palibut we cannot mount all paritions on one place20:51
Palipacthed ke-recv mounting to /media/mmc1p<part>20:52
Paliand if there is only one parition on SD card it mount directly to /media/mmc120:52
DocScrutinizerfsckdup filemanager, I looked at exactly this once and got headache20:52
Paliosso file manager is closed..20:53
DocScrutinizerthe idiotic hideaway of everything above MyDocs and card20:53
DocScrutinizerooh it is? then what was it Iooked at?20:53
DocScrutinizerI seem to recall I even tried to patch it20:54
DocScrutinizerto show /*20:54
DocScrutinizerbut failed miserably20:55
Paliosso file manager show same icon for all SD paritions as icon for MyDocs20:55
DocScrutinizeraah, maybe it's not been osso-fm but the fileselector lib20:56
Palino idea, but whole Maemo is configured that only MyDocs and one partition on external SD exist20:58
DocScrutinizeryep20:58
Palisee all enviromental variables20:58
Pali(e.g. in bash)20:58
Paliwhy only one parition? and why only fat32???20:59
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PaliI do not understand all Nokia Maemo devs...20:59
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DocScrutinizerhow about creating a "normal dir" /media/mmc1/" and therein create mountpoints "/media/mmc1/p2" "/media/mmc1/p3" ... ?21:01
Paliit has problem too :D21:01
DocScrutinizerouch21:01
DocScrutinizernm21:01
Paliit show standard GNOME icon :D21:01
DocScrutinizerall apps that think /media/mmc1 is the "root" of the mmc wll fail on that scheme21:02
DocScrutinizere.g camera-ui21:02
Paliok, it can be changed21:02
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# ll /media21:03
DocScrutinizerinsgesamt 821:03
DocScrutinizerdrwxrwxrwx 12 user root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 mmc121:03
DocScrutinizerdrwxr-xr-x  2 root root  160 2011-10-04 12:33 mmc1ext321:03
DocScrutinizeris what I got here, but obviously I need explicit mount for the ext3 partition21:03
DocScrutinizerand it's not osso-fm compatible21:03
DocScrutinizer:-S21:04
fw190We have one more serious problem which has to be solved: why MAG is everywhere but not here! Merlin 1991 is stating that there are patche to fix nicocam and we cant push them. This circus goes for weeks if not months. he opos for a minut, promises an update and that is it21:04
DocScrutinizerbbl21:04
Palicode for mount point: https://maemo.gitorious.org/~pali/maemo-af/pali-ke-recv/blobs/master/src/events.c#line92121:05
DocScrutinizerPali: shouldn't ke_recv also handle USB hostmode storage?21:11
DocScrutinizerso we *finally* get rid of the "mount" button in H-E-N GUI21:12
DocScrutinizeror probably we could exploit udev for that?21:13
DocScrutinizerafk again21:13
PaliDocScrutinizer, in ke-recv source code is handling for /dev/sda* devices from hal21:15
Palike.recv only handle events from hal21:15
Paliso I think that there is stupid bug in ke-recv if automounting with HEN does not work21:16
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DocScrutinizerPali: I know about kernel-events (see KE in ke-recv). I think ke-recv is simply not prepared to deal with storage attached via USB, heck it didn't even know about any second partition on uSD21:30
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Palisee syslog21:42
Paliand also lshal21:42
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DocScrutinizerwhyt should I find there?23:27
DocScrutinizerwhat*23:27
DocScrutinizerI don't think lshal is giving much useful info regarding this particular topic23:28
DocScrutinizerprobably udev-adm monitor would be a better choice for getting some ideas about it23:29
DocScrutinizeralas iirc we need to listen to KEVENT, not UEVENT, when we want some useful functions for h-e-n23:31
DocScrutinizerwhich aiui is exactly what ke-recv is doing23:31
DocScrutinizere.g detection of VBUS 5V will toggle the according sysnode (/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/1-0048/twl4030_usb/vbus or /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/vbus) and send a KEVENT but no UEVENT. So if we don't want to poll the sysnode, we want something to listen to that KEVENT and act accordingly, which I think is a task for ke-recv23:34
DocScrutinizerlistening to VBUS KEVENT and starting charger script aka jrbme whenever external power detected is part of what I think should become the replacement for bme that also supports vboost mode for h-e-n23:37
DocScrutinizerke-recv sounds like the natural place for this function to live in23:38
DocScrutinizer(of course jrbme itself could open a netlink socket and listen to kevents, instead of polling sysnode or waiting for ke-recv sending a signal or starting jrbme)23:40
DocScrutinizerbut I don't really like that idea23:40
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