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| _nicolai_ | hi, I hadn't time to participate for the recent ssu-meetings, but I read the irc-logs and | 13:32 |
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| _nicolai_ | on additional note for bug 6584: | 13:32 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/6584 GPS geotagged pictures truncate precision of GPS reading (0 decimal places) | 13:32 |
| _nicolai_ | this isn't only relevant for camera-ui2, but for the stock camera-ui as well | 13:32 |
| _nicolai_ | and it is tested by me and tmo user mikecc, for camera-ui2 and the stock camera-ui, if it isn't too late, this can be included in stable cssu | 13:33 |
| merlin1991 | _nicolai_: we'll have a meeting today | 14:12 |
| merlin1991 | and stable isn't out yet | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | so you still can convince me to include it in the first stable release :D | 14:13 |
| merlin1991 | _nicolai_: ping | 14:15 |
| _nicolai_ | please :-) | 14:21 |
| _nicolai_ | btw the relevant package is gst-plugins-bad0.10 | 14:22 |
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| merlin1991 | _nicolai_: did you have a look at bug #12318 ? | 14:24 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12318 camera-ui open lid dialog has no close button | 14:24 |
| _nicolai_ | yes, it's a bit harder to fix. | 14:27 |
| _nicolai_ | I have to rethink the whole UI-Layout, and I am not good in gtk widget layouts. | 14:27 |
| merlin1991 | that's one blocker for camera-ui to get to stable | 14:29 |
| merlin1991 | I attached a screenshot of the stock ui dialog for convenience | 14:30 |
| _nicolai_ | are there other blockers, (bug 12831 should be fixed) | 14:31 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12831 was not found. | 14:31 |
| _nicolai_ | ~s/12831/12381/ | 14:32 |
| merlin1991 | well stable should at least be feature complete to stock | 14:37 |
| merlin1991 | so tagging :/ | 14:37 |
| merlin1991 | though imo ui fix + overwrite fix should make it stable enough | 14:37 |
| merlin1991 | _nicolai_: meeting today should start @ 17 UTC as usual, just bring up your points again by then | 14:39 |
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| _nicolai_ | merlin1991, I am on the road at that time, but I'll read the logs afterwards | 14:50 |
| merlin1991 | damn | 14:50 |
| merlin1991 | I'll try to bring up your points then | 14:50 |
| merlin1991 | or rather point atm :) | 14:51 |
| jonwil | so yeah guys we have official confirmation that the source code for the PR 1.3.1 certificate manager applet will be released by Nokia | 16:17 |
| jonwil | which means CSSU can use (and hack/modify) it instead of shipping the binaries | 16:17 |
| merlin1991 | what where? | 16:18 |
| jonwil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12388 | 16:19 |
| povbot | Bug 12388: Missing source code of certificate control panel applet | 16:19 |
| jonwil | That should then mean the CSSU does not have to ship any closed packages in its repos | 16:22 |
| jonwil | at least as far as I know anyway | 16:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meeting day? | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: what's state of S now? | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: ping | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | will you be here today? | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | I'm here | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | still some time till meeting time | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: what'S current state of S and T17? both still blocked? | 17:31 |
| merlin1991 | not by debs missing from nokia anymore | 17:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | but no official rollout yet? | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: can we at least decide today whether to officially announce and rollout S ? | 17:33 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: announce and rollout depend on the autobilder to stop acting up --> me finding out why he does so | 17:34 |
| merlin1991 | atm autobuilders just doesn't want to build qt | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | ouch | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | you asked for help? maybe from X-Fade ? | 17:35 |
| merlin1991 | yes I did | 17:35 |
| merlin1991 | we're working on it | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | good, well kinda | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | so, we got something to talk about in 90min | 17:35 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | could sb text/call MohammadAG so he maybe blows into his fan and joins in at 17:00 UTC? | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | also _nicolai_ made a point today wich we have to descuss | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | s/descuss/discuss/ | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | is it on ##topic? | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | I'll text him | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | ##topic-11-18 gst-plugins-bad0.10 according to nicolai | 17:37 |
| merlin1991 | missing "stable" there but I'll be able to remember for that long :D | 17:37 |
| merlin1991 | I'm texting mag | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 17:46 |
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| merlin1991 | shit seems like I need to leave here in about 20 mins | 18:37 |
| merlin1991 | we might have to postpone the meeting untill I have internetz again | 18:38 |
| merlin1991 | or you guys just do it | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm, no MohammadAG around, no merlin1991 at 17:00 UTC | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm temped to also postpone it by 60min | 18:40 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 18:40 |
| merlin1991 | I might not be here at all today (I'm out of town, don't know exactly when I'll be next to a pc with internet and quassel | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody else around who planned to participate the meeting? | 18:40 |
| andre__ | I planned to just lurk, but doesn't matter when :) | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | fine :-D | 18:42 |
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| merlin1991 | /topic fsckd bastards not showing up meeting deayed till arrival? | 18:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oops | 18:44 |
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| merlin1991 | In case I don't show up, stable is ready when autobuilder stops acting up | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang | 18:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | andre__: you seen my comment to CSSU tag bug against bugtracker? (add CSSU-T, reassign existing CSSU as meaning cssu-S(+T) ) | 18:48 |
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| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, if I got it right, you refered to creating a second product "CSSU Testing" and rename "CSSU" to "CSSU stable"? | 18:50 |
| andre__ | if you all agree on that, that's easy to do | 18:50 |
| andre__ | I think I was kind of waiting for agreement. And maybe merlin1991 also adding a +1 :) | 18:50 |
| andre__ | for the records: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12497 | 18:50 |
| povbot | Bug 12497: Maemo 5 Community SSU needs field to distinguish between stable and testing | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, it's first and foremost merlin1991 and MohammadAG who need to agree on that | 18:52 |
| merlin1991 | I thougth of simply adding versions to each component in the cssu product | 18:52 |
| merlin1991 | stable and testing | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | or their proxies (yet to elect) | 18:52 |
| merlin1991 | and assing all existing bugs to testing | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | but I dunno wich makes more sense user wise | 18:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: aiui your approach is a nuisance both user experience wise and to handle in bugtracker | 18:53 |
| merlin1991 | what speaks for 2 products as compared to versions on the components? | 18:54 |
| merlin1991 | why is it a nuisance to handle in the bugtracker? | 18:55 |
| merlin1991 | there is the version field already wich states "unspecified" | 18:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | first and foremost the fact that nobody (not even we devels) knows off top of his head which version means what, while users for sure know if they are on S or on T | 18:55 |
| merlin1991 | huh? | 18:55 |
| merlin1991 | I wouldn't make versions as in product versions | 18:56 |
| merlin1991 | but use the version field to make it say stable or testing | 18:56 |
| andre__ | yeah, using version fields is the other option. | 18:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | the version is against the component, not against the product | 18:56 |
| merlin1991 | TRUE | 18:56 |
| merlin1991 | arf caps | 18:56 |
| merlin1991 | how does the diablo cssu do it? | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | most components are almost impossible to find their current version, for a mere end user | 18:57 |
| merlin1991 | diablo cssu has the version "testing" in it's component versions | 18:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | and when CSSU is another product than maemo, then CSSU-T is another product than CSSU-S | 18:58 |
| merlin1991 | yeah I see the point | 18:59 |
| merlin1991 | andre__: either solution is fine for me | 18:59 |
| merlin1991 | but now I gotta run | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll be back in 50min | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | (get me some milk for my coffee, etc) | 19:05 |
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| Sicelo | /t/t | 20:07 |
| Sicelo | sorry for spam | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | *errhemm* | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: ping | 20:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | freemangordon: do you wanna start? | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody here at all? | 20:10 |
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| andre__ | me, half of | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's MEETING time!! Weekly meetings every Friday @ 17:00 UTC (this time 60min late) | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/search?q=%23topic-11-18 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2011-11-14.log.html#t2011-11-14T18:00:36 seems it's already time to blow the funeral march | 20:14 |
| Sicelo | heh | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | interesting how the lack of main maintainers to deliver and exploit momentum discourages the few other interested contributors, rather than making obe of them step up to take over. | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | I officially declare this meeting a stillborn event and closed | 20:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer waves | 20:19 | |
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| Sicelo | oh gosh :( | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | ##topic-11-18 MEETING CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF PARTICIPANTS / CONTRIBUTIONS | 20:23 |
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