IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2011-11-01

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DocScrutinizerhah, no infobot here15:39
DocScrutinizerI could change this, on public demand - if there's any such demand15:40
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jonwilneither of the people I want to talk to seem to be around in any case15:55
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merlin1991http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP <-- we should consider contacitng the devs to inlcude this to cssu18:41
merlin1991it's an obvious case for a software update that makes sense18:41
DocScrutinizerdoes it need replacement of system libs or daemons, or changes to system config so the system can't work anymore with the stock configured components?18:51
DocScrutinizer(which the latter one afain would need replacement of stock components to make them work with the new system config)18:52
DocScrutinizerif not, then I do't think it couldn't get deployed via extras(-devel) repo and thus wouldn't qualify for inclusion to CSSU18:53
merlin1991it needs to replace obexd18:53
merlin1991wich is a system deamon18:53
DocScrutinizerok, fair enogh18:53
merlin1991it's basically an update for obexd to newer upstream source18:54
DocScrutinizer:nod:18:54
merlin1991wich enables transfer of phone library ... on a lot of car-kits18:54
DocScrutinizerstraight candidate for CSSU then18:54
merlin1991I just hate it that that wasn't working with n900, and it doesn't work again on the n918:55
* merlin1991 wonders why the bluetooth software stack on maemo and meego is in sucha bad shape18:55
merlin1991MohammadAG: ping18:57
merlin1991http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog#line15 was a fix in qt?18:57
DocScrutinizerbtw regarding all the "nice to have improvements / app that don't qualify for CSSU" (like nicocam), I had the idea to publish a system backup app backup-file that has all the "recommended apps" not included in CSSU. You could download the backup and "restore" it, even select which apps/applets/whatever you want or reject18:57
* merlin1991 has no clue how the backup app works actually, never tried it18:59
DocScrutinizerit's just using HAM to install a list of apps, and you can [un]checkmark each single app prior to the restore process19:04
DocScrutinizerso basically it's like a giant install file19:04
DocScrutinizerthat also includes some tar'd config files etc19:04
DocScrutinizerso this restore is like a nifty options-dialog for "augmented functions recommended and tested by XXX (CSSU-team, whatever)"19:06
merlin1991sry, for some reason I thought you meant backup-menu19:06
merlin1991the backup app I know19:06
merlin1991actually been extracting data from some backups by hand :D19:07
merlin1991and I still wonder how an application marks it's config files for backup because I know that xchat settings ended up in the backup files19:07
DocScrutinizerrestore of a "clean fresh" system from a publicly available backup.tgz seems the right thing to do19:07
merlin1991but doesn't the backup normally include the sources.list too?19:08
merlin1991you'd possibly break setups of other users, or can you exclude it and still have the backup working?19:08
DocScrutinizer(how X marks...) some entry in some setting file(s) in /etc/<backup-app-config>/*19:08
MohammadAGyou pinged?19:09
merlin1991<merlin1991> http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/blobs/master/debian/changelog#line15 was a fix in qt?19:09
merlin1991besides that changelog is in order again19:09
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MohammadAGmerlin1991, paste the line? on wG19:10
MohammadAG2G19:10
merlin1991* Segfaults in apps like marble fixed.19:10
MohammadAGmerlin1991, yes19:10
DocScrutinizerls -l /etc/osso-backup19:11
DocScrutinizerless /etc/osso-backup/applications/xchat.conf19:12
merlin1991whatabout sources.list though?19:12
merlin1991if it works the idea is defenitely nice19:13
DocScrutinizerwtf is sources.list?19:13
DocScrutinizersome apt stuff?19:13
merlin1991afaik back application also restores /etc/apt/sources.list19:13
DocScrutinizerthe repo list? afaik it just adds repos needed to fetch app pkgs19:14
DocScrutinizerwhich seems reasonable as you can't install foobar without having the repo in sources.list where foobar lives19:15
merlin1991we have to try that though, i'm not usre if it adds, or simply replaces19:15
merlin1991I somehow got the feeling that it just brings the repo list with the backup and just replaces19:15
DocScrutinizernevr heard of a bug report like that19:15
merlin1991I'm simply saying we should do such a backup and the cross check if it breaks anything on installing it, or does only what we want19:16
merlin1991s/and the/and then/19:17
DocScrutinizersure we shouldn't publish such a thing without testing it thoroughly ;-P19:17
merlin1991I guess it's time I'll reflash my n900 then19:19
DocScrutinizerfor testing that source.list stuff? really not needed19:20
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merlin1991it is, I added the cssu to the hildon-app-manager specific catalogue file in a way that is not the default cssu way19:20
merlin1991so if I test I can't tell if sources.list works fine because I did crazy stuff or because backup app is just fine :D19:21
DocScrutinizerjust add a rage repo (opera? firefox?) and do a backup of that app (and all apps). Then remove that rare repo as well as testing and devel repo, and restore just that one app from that rare repo. Your sources.list should have rare-repo then after restore, but no testing and devel repo enabled19:22
DocScrutinizerrs/rage/rare/19:23
merlin1991I'll give it some testing and will come back with my results19:23
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DocScrutinizer:-)19:24
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