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| DocScrutinizer | there's a magic remedy: tab expansion | 03:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | though my fontsets I've chosen all have clearly distinguishable 1/l and 0/O | 03:48 |
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| faina | is there any way to make ubuntu act like pc suite for the cssu installer? | 09:27 |
| merlin1991 | faina does ham complain about needing pc suite? | 09:29 |
| merlin1991 | in that case check the error page (i think 1 option before the pc suite dialog) | 09:30 |
| merlin1991 | Typical problems include modified h-d | 09:31 |
| faina | merlin1991: I ran, the cssu enalber, it ran the application manager and offered a bunch of packages to install. When I picked "Upgrade All" it then said. you need create a backup | 09:31 |
| merlin1991 | Well that needs no pc suite so far :) | 09:32 |
| faina | the dialog seemed to be "<create backup>" or press the blurred out region to cancel. | 09:33 |
| merlin1991 | Was there no button below create backup? | 09:34 |
| faina | I didn't see one. though I didn't try to scroll... | 09:34 |
| merlin1991 | Hm you should't need to scroll, so what did you get after the backup? | 09:35 |
| faina | will try again... currently backing up to memory card | 09:35 |
| merlin1991 | Also, technically you don't need the backup, but it never hurts :) | 09:36 |
| faina | well yeah... it did seem like "hey that's a good idea" | 09:37 |
| faina | I just have a dialog "Maemo Update" to update your device to this version of the OS you must use Nokia PC Suite on your PC. ... <create backup> | 09:38 |
| merlin1991 | Go back to the update window in ham | 09:39 |
| merlin1991 | tap the cssu package (yellow grey icon) | 09:39 |
| merlin1991 | And check the problem tab | 09:39 |
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| merlin1991 | Wich should show up in the first dialog after taping the update | 09:40 |
| faina | ok | 09:40 |
| faina | i closed it... and the app manager restarts so "quickly" | 09:40 |
| merlin1991 | Yea, patience is needed :P | 09:40 |
| faina | on the app manager menu, I just get a "log" option | 09:41 |
| faina | mostly the error messages seem to be about components being unsinged? | 09:42 |
| faina | eg. apt-work: domain change camera-ui (nokia-system -> unsinged) | 09:42 |
| faina | so many typos | 09:42 |
| faina | apt-worker ... -> unsigned. | 09:43 |
| merlin1991 | Did you open the app manager protokoll from the "title bar"? | 09:43 |
| faina | you can do that? | 09:44 |
| merlin1991 | that's the only "log" I know of :) | 09:44 |
| merlin1991 | but I'm looking for other output from the app manager | 09:45 |
| faina | I tapped on the "Application manager" text, it popped up 4 buttons. Refresh, Application catalogs, Log, Restore applications | 09:45 |
| merlin1991 | Ah silly german translation, well what I called protokoll is called log on yours | 09:46 |
| faina | ah... or should I be looking at the "details" tab | 09:46 |
| faina | with "problems" | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | Yep | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | go to update | 09:46 |
| faina | whcih offers the more helpful "conflict with application packages qml viewer | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | Tap cssu | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | Ah | 09:46 |
| merlin1991 | now we're closing in | 09:47 |
| merlin1991 | Hm conflicting qml viewer is a first time for me, heaven't seen that one yet | 09:47 |
| merlin1991 | You could apt-get remove it before tying again (cssu should install the updated one) | 09:48 |
| faina | I did manually install qmlviewer from somewhere | 09:49 |
| merlin1991 | Then deinstall, you'll get one again automatically | 09:49 |
| faina | it would've been really clever of me to do a dpkg --status before uninstalling it though | 09:50 |
| faina | Yay, after uninstalling qt4-declarative-qmlviewer, I now have a <continue> button | 09:51 |
| merlin1991 | faina: did you have modfied hildon desktop installed? (if yes you'll have a slight problem) | 09:57 |
| faina | merlin1991: I don't think so, I just did the pr update, and then installed some dev tools | 09:58 |
| faina | I didn't customize the UI very much | 09:58 |
| faina | I did get to "operating system successfully updated" | 09:59 |
| merlin1991 | enjoy your updated n900 :) | 10:00 |
| faina | thank you for your help :) | 10:00 |
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| uros1 | need help with SSU instalation, please | 12:02 |
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| uros1 | anybody? | 12:05 |
| uros1 | please need help | 12:05 |
| X-Fade | uros1: You are asking the wrong kind of questions. | 12:06 |
| uros1 | ok tnx | 12:06 |
| X-Fade | uros1: You need to say: I did this and this and now I see this error. What am I supposed to do now? | 12:06 |
| uros1 | aha cool | 12:07 |
| X-Fade | People need information to actually be able to help you :) | 12:07 |
| uros1 | i follow this instruction http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 12:07 |
| uros1 | on step 3 my device hanging and software update icon blinking, still nothing happend | 12:08 |
| uros1 | sorry for bad english | 12:08 |
| X-Fade | uros1: Give it some time, it might be downloading and processing the packages lists. Those are huge. | 12:08 |
| uros1 | okay but 30 minutes, maybe 35... | 12:09 |
| X-Fade | uros1: Is the device nice and warm? | 12:09 |
| uros1 | yes | 12:09 |
| X-Fade | Then it must be doing something. | 12:09 |
| uros1 | okay waiting... | 12:10 |
| X-Fade | You could look at it from the terminal to see what is up. | 12:10 |
| uros1 | top command? | 12:10 |
| X-Fade | yes | 12:10 |
| uros1 | what i looking for? | 12:11 |
| psycho_oreos | the very first process that maybe is using up all the CPU% | 12:15 |
| uros1 | /usr/libexec/apt-wo | 12:16 |
| uros1 | 80% | 12:16 |
| psycho_oreos | that's HAM still working | 12:17 |
| uros1 | ok waiting | 12:17 |
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| uros1 | well all done | 12:38 |
| uros1 | another problem | 12:38 |
| uros1 | fire up CSSU enabler, runs good, start the process, then ask me to create backup and to connect device vith PC using Nokia PC suite, but i only have Ubuntu without PC sutie... How to fix this? | 12:40 |
| psycho_oreos | there should be a way to upgrade without using pc suite route | 12:41 |
| uros1 | no way here | 12:41 |
| psycho_oreos | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ | 12:42 |
| X-Fade | apt-get remove libqt4-test | 12:43 |
| X-Fade | You can see which package is blocking on the 'problem' tab. | 12:44 |
| uros1 | okay | 12:44 |
| uros1 | lets see | 12:44 |
| uros1 | apt-get remove libqt4-test done | 12:46 |
| uros1 | no still asking fo pc suite | 12:53 |
| psycho_oreos | continue checking in `problem' tab until issues resolved | 12:54 |
| uros1 | okay | 12:54 |
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| uros1 | flashing device, then another try | 13:23 |
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| merlin1991 | uros1: you don't need to flash, but I guess I'm kinda late to tell you that :D | 15:45 |
| uros1 | right | 15:45 |
| merlin1991 | technicall you would have only had to check the problems tab and fix the problems there | 15:46 |
| merlin1991 | normally it's a conflict with a few packages | 15:46 |
| uros1 | well thing get whorse and whorse with every single fix | 15:46 |
| uros1 | on the ehd, CSSU enabler disappear from menus | 15:47 |
| merlin1991 | well technically if you have the cssu enabler run once it's done | 15:47 |
| merlin1991 | after that you just need to install the update in ham | 15:47 |
| uros1 | but ham asked for PC suite | 15:48 |
| uros1 | restoring from backup, btw | 15:48 |
| merlin1991 | sure but ham also has the problems tab before that, and if the problems are resolved it stoppes asking | 15:48 |
| uros1 | now | 15:48 |
| uros1 | anyway, after backup restore I`l try once again | 15:49 |
| uros1 | have decent internet here, so i hope better luck | 15:49 |
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| merlin1991 | uros1: did it work out? | 17:19 |
| uros1 | not yet. just restored backup, most go on work now... | 17:20 |
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| m4yer | hey, I've got a huge problem since last cssu update ... my battery holds now for about 5hours in idle! | 19:31 |
| m4yer | any fixes/known solutions before i try to downgrade to generic-ssu? | 19:31 |
| faina | I'm just guessing, but did you change the kernel too? | 19:34 |
| faina | IIRC, kernel power doesn't seem to ship with power management turned on. | 19:35 |
| merlin1991 | m4yer: did you check with `top` if you have any processes going crazy? | 19:39 |
| merlin1991 | because batter holds fine for a day at least here | 19:39 |
| m4yer | merlin1991: all processes look normal | 19:40 |
| m4yer | and iirc last kernel-update was before i updated cssu (and the battery-issue began) | 19:41 |
| faina | Ok, good luck in diagnosing it. | 19:42 |
| m4yer | load average: 0.19, 0.16, 0.18 | 19:42 |
| m4yer | looks normal to me ... | 19:42 |
| m4yer | faina: fast hint where to look if power-managment is enabled?^^ | 19:42 |
| faina | m4yer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Configuring_the_kernel_speed.2Fvoltage_settings | 19:43 |
| m4yer | thx. | 19:45 |
| faina | gotta run good luck | 19:45 |
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| m4yer | powermanagment seems on (as i thought): http://pastebin.com/B07z16Te | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | m4yer: this PK undervoltage settings are virtually useless and for sure not the cause of your problem | 19:49 |
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| m4yer | hm, Ill try a downgrade to generic ... too annoying to have a useless mobilephone ... | 19:55 |
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| uros1 | how to lock desktop orientation on landscape with CSSU | 21:12 |
| merlin1991 | lemme find the gconf key | 21:13 |
| merlin1991 | gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false | 21:14 |
| merlin1991 | might be the one you're searching for | 21:14 |
| uros1 | tnx | 21:14 |
| uros1 | command not found | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | I just used it and it worked | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | oO | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | are you sure you have no typo? | 21:17 |
| uros1 | maybe lets see | 21:17 |
| uros1 | still not found and no typo | 21:20 |
| uros1 | this is command for x-terminal, ok? | 21:20 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 21:21 |
| merlin1991 | try only /usr/bin/gconftool-2 | 21:21 |
| merlin1991 | should givve you a usage message | 21:21 |
| uros1 | okay ask me to type /usr/bin/gconftool-2 --help | 21:22 |
| merlin1991 | hm your path is messed up then | 21:23 |
| merlin1991 | just use /usr/bin/gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false | 21:23 |
| uros1 | still not found | 21:24 |
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| merlin1991 | sry uros1 I missed your last line | 21:50 |
| merlin1991 | that's really strange because the command is found since it works if you invoke it without parameters | 21:51 |
| uros1 | let`s see | 21:57 |
| uros1 | well strange | 21:59 |
| uros1 | newer mind, must work now, no time to play, blah | 22:01 |
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