IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2011-03-23

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Sc0rpiusMohammadAG,  isn't there already an email widget for Modest in Maemo?00:26
MohammadAGSc0rpius, it's crappy00:26
Sc0rpiusheh, dunno I have never used it00:27
MohammadAGI should've said an email widget rewrite00:27
Sc0rpiusis it closed source?00:27
MohammadAGyes, iirc00:27
Sc0rpiushmmm00:27
MohammadAGmodest-home-applet00:27
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anapospastoswill be included resizing and modification of shadows of icons on ssu?00:30
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saturn_MohammadAG, just read your chat earlier with Lava_Croft. He scared you for a second, didn't he? lol01:41
saturn_Anyway, the xml is just a link and there is a button to remove it from inside the app.01:42
saturn_Users rarelly read documentation or changelog but anyway here's the link:01:43
merlin1991I'd do it the other way round01:43
merlin1991have a button to add it01:43
merlin1991beeing less intrusive01:43
saturn_http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_Features_Configuration_Editor#Power_Key_Menu_entry01:44
merlin1991and since it's a customizer in the very essence it should give options not force them on install ;)01:45
BCMMw.t.f. http://wiki.maemo.org/Swappolube#Explanation_of_options01:46
BCMMhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Swappolube#Laptop_Mode , rather01:46
BCMMit's discussing disk spindown01:46
BCMMthat's nice.01:46
merlin1991:D01:47
merlin1991well it applies perfectly01:47
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merlin1991since it does not affect disk spindown, but is a setting that makes sense when thinking of spindown01:48
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BCMMmerlin1991: not sure i follow...01:48
saturn_cheers guys..01:49
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merlin1991It's a setting that makes sense when you have a disk, but is not nessecarily influenced by having a rotating disk01:50
merlin1991since it's just a flush interval01:50
BCMMsure01:51
BCMMit's just that the entire rationale for it's effects on the n900 seems to spindown01:51
merlin1991hehe01:51
BCMMi mean, the rationale given on that wiki page01:51
merlin1991true01:51
merlin1991I bet it's a copy paste from somewhere else01:52
BCMMof course01:53
BCMMit's a shame, this stuff would be interesting if the "suggested values" were anything other than voodoo01:54
BCMM(perhaps they are)01:54
BCMMi mean, if somebody had laboriously benchmarked various settings of those various parameters01:54
merlin1991that's be nice01:54
merlin1991but how would you measure that specific setting?01:55
BCMMchange just that setting, run benchmarks, and so on...01:55
merlin1991since on the n900 it can help with really weird i/o situations01:55
merlin1991might01:55
BCMMofc, this assumes the settings don't even interact non-linearly :)01:55
merlin1991:D01:55
BCMMall i'm saying is that without explanation or benchmarking, the tweaks are most likely to be placebos or slightly detrimental01:56
BCMMbut at least make you feel like you're doing something to something01:56
BCMMs/even/ever/01:56
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macmaNwhat causes cssfeatures to bomb out with "reading settings gave FATAL ERROR"19:12
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JaffamacmaN: No idea. Not supported here :-p19:13
macmaNoh19:13
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macmaNim not seeing z-axis rotation in transitions.ini anymore :/19:15
macmaNoh now theres some .default file that has them19:16
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Sc0rpiusI don't see an email widget in my N90019:31
Sc0rpiusI wonder if Maemo really has one or if people is installing one via extras19:31
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JaffaSc0rpius: Perhaps it's been automatically uninstalled, like what happens to RST38h19:33
JaffaSc0rpius: It is indeed built-in.19:33
Sc0rpiusI don't have it, I wanted to take a look ait19:34
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MohammadAGSc0rpius, apt-get install modest-home-applet19:50
MohammadAGJaffa, do you remember which firmware the widget was added in?19:51
MohammadAGnice lines hildon-desktop's code19:52
MohammadAG#define GMENU_I_KNOW_THIS_IS_UNSTABLE19:52
MohammadAG#include <gmenu-tree.h>19:52
Sc0rpiusI'll try that19:53
MohammadAG_HILDON_WM_ACTION_NO_TRANSITIONS <-- disables transitions on a window19:55
MohammadAGtill now, I've noticed only two windows doing it19:55
MohammadAGthe lock screen, and the menu editor19:55
macmaNis there a way to change font window title font in task switcher?19:55
macmaNi see just one tile_font in transitions.ini and thats dashboard's19:56
Sc0rpius"(no unread messages)"19:56
Sc0rpiusI'll use it for a while to see why you say it's so crappy19:56
MohammadAGSc0rpius, it doesn't work with Nokia Messaging, for one19:57
MohammadAGand it doesn't follow widget guidelines (it's not theme-able for one)19:57
Sc0rpiusdoesn't work with Nokia Messaging? :O19:57
Sc0rpiusand it's very ugly19:58
Sc0rpiusI would have put at least an email icon like the calendar has19:58
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MohammadAGSc0rpius, if you can clone the backend part, you can probably use nicolai's GUI from his enhanced calendar widget20:27
JaffaMohammadAG: No idea, I only turned it on recently.20:28
MohammadAGJaffa, it?20:28
JaffaMohammadAG: email widget20:32
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macmaN /j #transmission20:53
macmaNwhoops20:53
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lcukthp, hey, I heard recently that one of my contacts came and visited the Vienna hack lab thingie, I was not aware you had cirtcuits and hardware talks there also22:29
merlin1991lcuk: that lab is awesome, it has everything you could possibly need for hacking22:31
merlin1991including laser plotters :D22:31
lcuk(it was Jeri Ellsworth, pinball hacking C64 console creating awesome geek gal22:31
lcukmerlin1991, that might have been why she was there then :)22:31
lcukI just heard it mentioned on one of her interviews22:31
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merlin1991sadly I had to miss out on todays qt workshop there22:34
merlin1991wich is prob still going on atm22:34
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MohammadAG<merlin1991> including laser plotters :D <-- what about laser penguins22:52
lcukthey let penguins on planes now22:55
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thplcuk: yes, lots of cool stuff happening there ;)23:56
lcuk:)23:56
merlin1991thp: ich hätte sogar ein qt projekt zum mitbringen gehabt, aber leider keine zeit :/23:56
thpmerlin1991: keep it prepared for the next qt workshop23:57
merlin1991:D23:57
thpmerlin1991: a log of what we did can be found @ http://metalab.at/wiki/Qt_Workshop23:57
merlin1991any concrete plans for the next one already?23:58
thpno, forgot to ask. but we were like 8 people or so..23:59

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