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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:55 |
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| psycho_oreos | morning | 11:56 |
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| mirr0r | Is the ovi store not compatible with the CSSU? After installing, ovi store tells me i should upgrade my device.. | 13:29 |
| Venemo | hahaha! | 13:30 |
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| MohammadAG | the CSSU should work fine with the ovi store, postinst resets software version to PR1.3 at each upgrade | 14:13 |
| MohammadAG | and I'm back from my holiday | 14:13 |
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| MohammadAG | ah | 14:17 |
| MohammadAG | Messed up version numbers, which is why 11813 is still there | 14:18 |
| fiberspeed | Is there a way to manually reset software version? | 14:23 |
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| Venemo | Jaffa, MohammadAG: worth investigating: [12:29] <mirr0r> Is the ovi store not compatible with the CSSU? After installing, ovi store tells me i should upgrade my device.. | 14:30 |
| mirr0r | thanks | 14:31 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, saw that, opened ovi store and it works fine here | 14:32 |
| Venemo | mhm | 14:34 |
| mirr0r | Does it make a difference that i installed with FAM ? | 14:34 |
| mirr0r | How does the OVI store check the version? Maybe I can modify it manually... | 14:39 |
| MohammadAG | Ask timeless in #maemo | 14:40 |
| MohammadAG | AFAIK, it checks with osso-product-info | 14:40 |
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| thp | btw. would a switchable desaturate/non-blur patch be accepted in the community SSU if it requires a restart to change the setting (i.e. default off, and if the gconf key is switched on, a "killall hildon-desktop" is required for the changes to take effect)? | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | sure | 14:57 |
| MohammadAG | lots of transitions require a restart of the desktop, and those are in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transitions.ini | 14:58 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, any chance you'll have that patch by today? | 15:48 |
| thp | why? is there any deadline for a release? :) | 15:49 |
| MohammadAG | no, but I could delay the upload :P | 15:49 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG: what patch is that? | 15:56 |
| MohammadAG | <thp> btw. would a switchable desaturate/non-blur patch be accepted in the community SSU if it requires a restart to change the setting (i.e. default off, and if the gconf key is switched on, a "killall hildon-desktop" is required for the changes to take effect)? | 15:57 |
| Venemo | oh | 15:58 |
| Venemo | sounds nice | 15:58 |
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| MohammadAG | yep | 15:58 |
| thp | (because all the mails of my forum thread subscriptions with all those custom-built .debs are getting annoying :p) | 16:03 |
| MohammadAG | thp, so? :P | 16:09 |
| MohammadAG | should I wait or push the update now | 16:10 |
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| thp | yep, i'll try to come up with something today :) | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | thp, actually, I think I missed our original goal, if you do come up with something I'll upload it in another updates | 16:21 |
| thp | no problem :) | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | After all, we should release often, instead of doing it the Nokia way :P | 16:21 |
| thp | yep | 16:22 |
| thp | MohammadAG: can you give me a link to the most up to date H-D against which you would like to have the patches? | 16:23 |
| thp | ideally, a git repo :p | 16:23 |
| MohammadAG | thp, http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop | 16:26 |
| thp | thanks | 16:30 |
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| MohammadAG | HAM seems to work fine in portrait mode | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | we just need to remove the background in portrait mode | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | and set it back in landscape mode | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, I just checked tmo, why are the two threads still active? | 16:47 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: One should be closed. It exists but you shouldn't be able to post to it | 16:48 |
| MohammadAG | ah, I expected the other one to be closed, nevermind :p | 16:49 |
| Jaffa | MohammadAG: Could ask a mod to go through the other thread, move every post of substance and not asking the same question 100 billion times to the newer thread and re-open it ;-) | 16:52 |
| MohammadAG | Jaffa, lol no worries | 16:54 |
| thp | i think the patch is ready.. let me just test if it still works.. | 17:04 |
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| thp | while I'm at it, would you accept the big task switcher patches as well when they are optional? | 17:27 |
| thp | MohammadAG: ^ | 17:29 |
| MohammadAG | thp, all patches are accepted if they improve the experience, or are turned off by default | 17:29 |
| MohammadAG | thp, an ultimate hildon-desktop with all patches merged would be awesome | 17:29 |
| MohammadAG | gconfigurable of course | 17:30 |
| thp | or transition.iniable, right? ;) | 17:35 |
| MohammadAG | yep :) | 17:36 |
| thp | ok, patch for blurless is ready.. working on single/two-column patch now | 17:48 |
| thp | i think the only one that's left is the paginate laucher icons one, and that one isn't really useful | 17:49 |
| thp | and the horizontal task switcher is kind of buggy i think | 17:49 |
| thp | or do people use the horizontal task switcher as well? | 17:50 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure, never tried it | 17:56 |
| thp | if i kill hildon-desktop too often in a row, does the device reboot? because mine just did ;) | 18:00 |
| MohammadAG | mine doesn't, I killed the watchdog :P | 18:01 |
| MohammadAG | though yeah, I'm assuming 5 kills in a row real quick would trigger the watchdog | 18:01 |
| Sc0rpius | hey | 18:02 |
| * MohammadAG ponders a UI | 18:03 | |
| MohammadAG | should be easy with QSettings actually... | 18:04 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, so both of your patches are configured in transitions.ini? | 18:09 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: yes. i didn't bother to look how it works with gconf, for transitions.ini, there are nice getter functions (hd_transitions_get_*) | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | thp, yay | 18:13 |
| thp | or hd_transition_get_* even | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | I think I'll rewrite transitioncontrol in Qt | 18:13 |
| thp | yay :) sounds good | 18:16 |
| thp | the best way to get my patches in is to clone the repo on gitorious and submit a merge request? | 18:17 |
| MohammadAG | yep | 18:17 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/merge_requests/1 :) | 18:24 |
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| Sc0rpius | the attachment bug is horrible | 18:28 |
| thp | Sc0rpius: attachment bug? | 18:31 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah the Modest sent attachment incorrectly | 18:31 |
| Sc0rpius | I'm looking at it right now | 18:31 |
| MohammadAG | I'm not sure who to listen to | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | some say it works, others don't | 18:32 |
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| MohammadAG | hmm | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | thp, one question | 18:33 |
| Sc0rpius | I can tell you waht happens | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | if the value is missing, what happens? | 18:33 |
| Sc0rpius | somehow Modest stopped sending mails "multipart/mixed" though it correctly set the content type | 18:33 |
| Sc0rpius | several mail clients just drop the "multipart/alternative" attachments | 18:34 |
| Sc0rpius | my Windows Live Mail does | 18:34 |
| MohammadAG | Microsoft :P | 18:34 |
| thp | MohammadAG: that's the third parameter in hd_transition_get_int | 18:34 |
| Sc0rpius | it shouldn't be "alternative". It has never been | 18:34 |
| Sc0rpius | and in the code, it sets it to "mixed". I'm looking where it loses the content type and gets changed for alternative | 18:35 |
| thp | MohammadAG: both are set to 0, so if the keys are missing, the default behavior will be used | 18:35 |
| MohammadAG | thp, cool, was just wondering since some themes are based on stock h-d and therefore lack the key in their transitions.ini file | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | thp, thanks :D | 18:36 |
| thp | thanks for merging :) please let it be tested by some people before pushing it to stable CSSU so i don't get hate mail from angry maemo users when their h-d won't come up | 18:37 |
| thp | (although i have tested all combinations and it works for me.. when i killall slow enough, it won't reboot) | 18:37 |
| Sc0rpius | what are you guys playing with :) | 18:37 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, stable isn't out yet :) | 18:38 |
| thp | ah, that's good :) | 18:38 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, works fine, just tested it | 18:46 |
| thp | :) great. when will it appear in the cssu testing repo? | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | I'll push it today I guess | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | hopefully this hour | 18:48 |
| MohammadAG | gonna look at the bug list, see if there's something quick that can be added | 18:48 |
| thp | looking forward to it :) | 18:54 |
| thp | also, the transitions config Qt UI :) | 18:54 |
| BCMM | thp: yeah, something must monitor termination of h d, since i've managed to reboot by accident while repeatedly reproducing the notification crash | 18:55 |
| BCMM | (yes, i know i should get on with it and write a bug report) | 18:55 |
| thp | oh, great. so it's not my bad code ;) | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | that something = dsme | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | it's the watchdog | 18:58 |
| BCMM | sorry, in case that isn't clear, i'm referring to a bug which crashes hildon desktop, and have triggered a reboot by triggering it too many times in a row while testing reproducibility | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | which is why I've been in R&D mode since June (I think) last year | 18:58 |
| BCMM | MohammadAG: huh? | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | http://wiki.maemo.org/R&D_mode | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | no-lifeguard-reset - Disables the lifeguard process (lifeguard reboots the device when an important system process crashes). | 18:59 |
| BCMM | ah | 18:59 |
| MohammadAG | that causes bootloops when you f up somewhere :P | 18:59 |
| BCMM | oh i see, that would be extremely annoying if you were trying to do hildon-desktop development... | 19:00 |
| BCMM | oh wow, there's a serial console? is it *just* a console, or can it be a regular serial port? | 19:01 |
| thp | might be on one of the pins below the battery. | 19:02 |
| BCMM | yeah, that's what it said | 19:02 |
| thp | oh it says so on the wiki page ;) | 19:02 |
| BCMM | actually, now i think about it, that isn't nearly as cool as i thought, since IIRC somebody has already got a serial-USB adaptor working | 19:02 |
| thp | would still love to have one of those: http://maemoteam.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/20091012_003.jpg | 19:04 |
| BCMM | what is that? | 19:05 |
| BCMM | i want to see somebody use a USB-serial adaptor to connect the n900 to a VT100 | 19:06 |
| BCMM | (you know, because the n900's keyboard and screen are a little small) | 19:06 |
| thp | the flashing jig they had in amsterdam | 19:07 |
| thp | http://maemoteam.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/amsterdam-flash-marathon/ <- full story | 19:07 |
| BCMM | ah, thanks | 19:07 |
| Sc0rpius | the Modest problem is | 19:11 |
| Sc0rpius | it first creates an empty message with multipart/alternative | 19:11 |
| Sc0rpius | when it's send, it's set to multipart/mixed | 19:11 |
| Sc0rpius | but the headers of the empty messages are added | 19:11 |
| Sc0rpius | so the content type of the empty message overwrites the headers of the final message | 19:12 |
| MohammadAG | set both to multipart/mixed and this should be solved, no? | 19:13 |
| Sc0rpius | heh well since the first one is set by the "compose message" function, if you set it there to multipart/mixed then the windows shows an ugly "no subject" attachment of 0 bytes in the attachment list | 19:14 |
| Sc0rpius | since it worked fine in 3.4.8 I'm looking at the commit logs to see what could have changed | 19:14 |
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| Sc0rpius | I'm like 70% sure that the problem was this commit: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest/commit/1627fed39da6170e55f9e0616d3fa493986fa084 | 19:16 |
| Sc0rpius | "Preserver headers of messages in drafts and sending messages." | 19:16 |
| Sc0rpius | so I'll think of a fix to preserve headers (though I'm not really sure why) while the new content type has priority over those | 19:21 |
| thp | Sc0rpius: you can use git bisect to be sure if that commit introduced the bug and work from there | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | QSettings messes up transitions.ini | 19:23 |
| thp | MohammadAG: look at how transitioncontrol does it? | 19:25 |
| thp | MohammadAG: and make sure you are using QSettings::IniFormat | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | thp, yes, I am | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | it can read from it | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | but writing to it messes things up | 19:26 |
| MohammadAG | thp, http://pastebin.com/zcXwHgZA | 19:27 |
| thp | ah, so comments with "=" in them get mistreated? | 19:28 |
| MohammadAG | all comments are removed | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | spaces are added | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | etc | 19:30 |
| MohammadAG | might write to it directly instead, QTextStream is what I need I think | 19:30 |
| thp | something like this maybe? http://www.qtforum.org/article/33551/qsettings-comment-character.html#post108010 | 19:30 |
| thp | OR! | 19:30 |
| thp | could it be that ";" is the comment char in qsettings' ini support? | 19:31 |
| thp | if so, doing s/^#/;/ before reading and s/^;/#/ after writing should do the trick | 19:32 |
| thp | or just remove all comments (?) | 19:32 |
| thp | or just use Python + PySide, and then use ConfigParser from Python | 19:33 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I'm not a big fan of Python :P | 19:50 |
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| Sc0rpius | I fixed the attachment bug | 20:27 |
| Sc0rpius | I should request merge with it and another bug that is already fixed but haven't been pushed | 20:27 |
| obironbo | jjj | 21:10 |
| Sc0rpius | ? | 21:14 |
| Jaffa | Sc0rpius: What you should do is create a patch, stick it in an email, forward it to a mailing list, wait for more than 2 people to sign off on it and then MohammadAG can merge it ;-/ | 21:17 |
| MohammadAG | more than 2 people, we have a waiting queue of 2 months :P | 21:18 |
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| piggz | lo...just wondered what was new in the updated hildon-desktop i jsut received | 22:23 |
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| piggz | will look in gitorious | 22:23 |
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| merlin1991 | hm installing the update from the ssu (just now) left a frozen ham | 22:40 |
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| merlin1991 | Jaffa, MohammadAG with the new configurable addons in the cssu (commits from thp), I think we should add yet another wiki page the documents new settings and things that can be enabled with the cssu, so people that don't read trough the git logs have a chance to actually use the new features | 23:00 |
| merlin1991 | what do you think? | 23:00 |
| thp | MohammadAG: afaik MohammadAG is going to implement a gui for that, but yes, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog should be updated at some point | 23:06 |
| Sc0rpius | Jaff: I thought Merge requests in gitorious were faster | 23:06 |
| Sc0rpius | since I have everything already cloned in gitorious... | 23:06 |
| merlin1991 | I'd happily go and update http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog, but currently I have no clue wich git commit is wich cssu version | 23:08 |
| merlin1991 | we need tags on all repos whenever something get's pushed to the cssu | 23:08 |
| BCMM | about that changelog, would adding stuff from the git logs to that be something a non-developer could help with? | 23:08 |
| thp | merlin1991: maybe you can add a new section "unreleased" in which you add stuff from the git repos. once it's released, you or someone from the cssu team can give that section a title / move the items around | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | thp I could but currently my problem is I don't even know what's in the cssu and what is just on gitorious | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | ofc I could apt-src the cssu and compare, but that would be overkill :D | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | simple tags in the git repo where I see ah so this is version xy in the cssu would help a lot | 23:10 |
| thp | tell MohammadAG to tag his releases :) | 23:14 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG, it would be perfect if you could tag each commit you push to the cssu with the version number the package has in the cssu then | 23:18 |
| * Sc0rpius still wonders if merge requests are wrong | 23:19 | |
| Sc0rpius | I'm gonna do a little more testing about this attachment bug fix and request the merge | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | I still have way a lot of things to fix in Modest | 23:20 |
| Sc0rpius | I just think "preserve headers" is wrong. | 23:23 |
| merlin1991 | I need some clarification on the term PR 1.3.3.7-1 is that a specific version of mp-fremantle-community-pr, or is that the first release number we'll use when we consider the cssu stable? | 23:23 |
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| MohammadAG | merlin1991, first public release, which is -testing | 23:30 |
| merlin1991 | so I just add the changes that happened the last few days to that version? | 23:31 |
| MohammadAG | no, use -2 | 23:31 |
| merlin1991 | the cpr2 tag on the community-ssu-enabler repo is that what we consider -2 ? | 23:33 |
| MohammadAG | yes, but the tags aren't done yet | 23:35 |
| merlin1991 | hit me when they're done, and I'll update the changelog then | 23:35 |
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| Sc0rpius | the more I read the Modest source code | 23:39 |
| Sc0rpius | the more I understand why it sucks | 23:39 |
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| MohammadAG | lol | 23:43 |
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