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| Jaffa | MohammadAG: noticed a push on gitorious for the schema registration. Has that been pushed to the repo? | 13:39 |
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| Jaffa | If so, anyone any objections to the launch announcement going out? | 13:39 |
| psycho_oreos | that reminds me, I need to edit the wiki, some typos on that mhd versus hildon-desktop | 13:40 |
| psycho_oreos | nope that's been erased from the docs lol oh well, saves me the fixes :D | 13:52 |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/ville-vainios-forum-nokia-blog/2011/01/29/mcsp | 14:05 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Yes, I'm annoyed by the naming, but the claim was "no confusion cos this is just for developers" | 14:07 |
| Jaffa | Something to add to the FAQ | 14:07 |
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| Jaffa | Announcement posted to maemo-developers & maemo-community | 18:21 |
| Jaffa | Doing blog, Planet & TMO | 18:21 |
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| Jaffa | Done: http://maemo.org/community/council/maemo_5_gets_community_os_updates/ | 18:29 |
| psycho_oreos | now it needs more devs to join ;) | 18:29 |
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| ecksun | the instructions on the wiki about how to install the ssu doesnt wor | 18:44 |
| ecksun | k | 18:44 |
| ecksun | I just installed the repository, but it doesnt install any packages, i think | 18:44 |
| ecksun | I would think you would have to install "Community SSU enabler"? | 18:45 |
| ecksun | hmm, but i see the .install file should do that :/ | 18:46 |
| ecksun | dpkg -l doesnt list anything named "community-ssu-enabler" | 18:48 |
| psycho_oreos | once you run the install file, it should go through a series of questions inside HAM before its added. After that you'll need to exit HAM and run the Community SSU enabler, its in the menu somewhere | 18:49 |
| ecksun | but it only asked if i wanted to add the repo, nothing more | 18:49 |
| ecksun | I got a new n900 yesterday (warranty <3), the only thing i have done is to install bash and coreutils and make bash the default package | 18:50 |
| psycho_oreos | and you don't see an extra icon under menu? | 18:50 |
| ecksun | nope | 18:50 |
| ecksun | dpkg -l | grep community-ssu | 18:50 |
| ecksun | yields nothing | 18:50 |
| SpeedEvil | ecksun: What died on the old one? | 18:50 |
| ecksun | the usb-connection | 18:51 |
| ecksun | it fell off :P | 18:51 |
| ecksun | so this is my third n900 :) | 18:51 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 18:51 |
| ecksun | any idea on why it didint install the package when i downloaded the .install file? | 18:52 |
| psycho_oreos | not sure | 18:54 |
| ecksun | could it be related to me replacing ash with bash? | 18:54 |
| psycho_oreos | at that point I'd try and enable red pill and check the logs | 18:54 |
| ecksun | because thats the only thing i can think of | 18:54 |
| ecksun | does the red pill still exists? | 18:55 |
| ecksun | which logs? | 18:55 |
| psycho_oreos | as long as you didn't replace that at the fs level | 18:55 |
| ecksun | i changed it in /etc/passwd | 18:55 |
| psycho_oreos | yes red pill exist through a file hack :) | 18:55 |
| ecksun | nice, but why would you want that? | 18:55 |
| ecksun | i got root :D | 18:55 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh well if you changed only in /etc/passwd for root and user then it should be ok | 18:55 |
| ecksun | well, only for user (and my new user) | 18:56 |
| psycho_oreos | enable hidden functionality and sometimes HAM seems to be more verbose imo | 18:56 |
| ecksun | were are the logs? | 18:56 |
| ecksun | just to make it clera, Im trying to help find bugs, not just to get it to work (as that would probably be fixed with apt-get install) | 18:57 |
| ecksun | hmm, when i ran the file again it started the installation | 18:59 |
| ecksun | perhaps I was to quick? | 18:59 |
| psycho_oreos | weird, no I don't know what happened nor am I a dev. I'm having some minor issues with the modified HAM | 19:00 |
| ecksun | it would seem so, I think i closed ham before it got a chance to install anything | 19:00 |
| ecksun | i see | 19:00 |
| psycho_oreos | ahh yeah that might also be the case.. I do recall once running that install file and going through the dialogues I did remember with my load-applet it showed 100% CPU usage for sometime | 19:01 |
| ecksun | that should probably be mentioned | 19:01 |
| ecksun | "be patient" | 19:01 |
| psycho_oreos | the problem is to wait for how long :) | 19:02 |
| ecksun | :D | 19:03 |
| ecksun | indeed | 19:03 |
| psycho_oreos | to me as someone who has installed various stuff on my n900 setup (this is my very first n900, I haven't had the device replaced) I can see that one needs to give it sometime | 19:03 |
| ecksun | :D | 19:04 |
| ecksun | but there is usually a progressbar/dialog | 19:04 |
| ecksun | indicating its installign stuff | 19:05 |
| psycho_oreos | hmm for now I guess I'll add that into the wiki and hopefully someone may give it a more definitive answer | 19:05 |
| ecksun | i already have :) | 19:05 |
| ecksun | oh, intreresting, sudser stoped the community ssu from contnuing | 19:05 |
| ecksun | perfect :) | 19:05 |
| psycho_oreos | you have to excuse the fact that its not ready for the wider community as yet :) but I'm sure the devs are working hard to make installation a breeze | 19:05 |
| ecksun | yes, ofc | 19:06 |
| ecksun | thats why i want to help out :) | 19:06 |
| ecksun | just read the mail on the mailinglist | 19:06 |
| ecksun | i would also love to develope something, however Im to busy with school :( | 19:06 |
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| psycho_oreos | heh oh well :) | 19:08 |
| * psycho_oreos thinks about modding that wiki page to be a little better | 19:08 | |
| psycho_oreos | and the mailing-list? you meant the forum thread? :D | 19:08 |
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| ecksun | psycho_oreos, no, the mailing list | 19:08 |
| ecksun | andre fleg sent one out to maemo-developers and maemo-community 1h ago | 19:09 |
| psycho_oreos | ecksun, ah bleh I don't follow the mailing-list too much, hence that's probably why I'm missing out | 19:10 |
| ecksun | :) | 19:10 |
| ecksun | i like it, not to much traffic | 19:11 |
| ecksun | as it is in tmo | 19:11 |
| ecksun | :P | 19:11 |
| ecksun | what problem did you have with HAM? | 19:11 |
| psycho_oreos | don't tell me that mailing list is just like tmo lol. The way some users post their stuff on tmo makes you wonder about their stance | 19:12 |
| ecksun | what are you reffering to? | 19:12 |
| psycho_oreos | it randomly crashes, this could be the result of me customising setup whilst having red pill enabled and/or its probably the HAM from the CSSU repo | 19:12 |
| ecksun | Im not reading tmo that much :D | 19:12 |
| ecksun | i see | 19:13 |
| ecksun | randomly crashing is hard for me to investigate/replicate | 19:13 |
| psycho_oreos | you don't want to know trust me, some people on the tmo really makes you wonder their usefulness | 19:13 |
| ecksun | okay :D | 19:14 |
| psycho_oreos | I suppose it could be replicated if you have enabled red pill mode and changing stuff such as show all packages and show system magic packages | 19:14 |
| ecksun | yes, but i was more refering to "randomly crashing" | 19:14 |
| psycho_oreos | I'm thinking about disabling red pill mode altogether and see if it crashes | 19:14 |
| ecksun | randomly is pita :D | 19:14 |
| ecksun | why do you want that? | 19:15 |
| psycho_oreos | yeah the randomly crashing is related to HAM :) | 19:15 |
| psycho_oreos | well if it still crashes after red pill mode has been disabled then one can say its not red pill's fault and one to tinker with something `they weren't supposed to' :) | 19:15 |
| psycho_oreos | its what the pc technicians defines it `process elimination' | 19:16 |
| ecksun | i was reffering to why you at all have red pill mode enabled? | 19:16 |
| ecksun | whats the advantage? | 19:16 |
| psycho_oreos | well troubleshooters I'd say | 19:16 |
| psycho_oreos | like I said hidden functionality | 19:16 |
| ecksun | like what? | 19:17 |
| ecksun | i seldom use HAM, usually i just open up a terminal, so Im curious | 19:17 |
| ecksun | :) | 19:17 |
| psycho_oreos | you can make it show system packages and instead of the normal packages categorised, you can see (with magic packages) their exact repo location such as user/system | 19:17 |
| ecksun | okay, apt-cache show :) | 19:18 |
| psycho_oreos | there's a wiki page dedicated to defining what red pill mode does | 19:18 |
| ecksun | but yeah, i can see why it would be usefull | 19:18 |
| psycho_oreos | http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode | 19:18 |
| ecksun | yes :) | 19:19 |
| ecksun | what happens if you change red-pill-mode and not red-pill-permanent? | 19:20 |
| psycho_oreos | you can't, its either on or off | 19:20 |
| thp | just installed the community ssu - the vte fix works as expected :) | 19:20 |
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| psycho_oreos | yup looks like the issue with random HAM crashes were definitely to do with red pill mode | 19:34 |
| ecksun | nice then, that you have figured out that | 19:40 |
| psycho_oreos | humm not quite, I installed advanced clock plugin, backgrounded the HAM task whilst trying to configure the advanced clock plugin HAM crashed lol | 19:42 |
| psycho_oreos | I'm sure my crash logs are filling up, I'll check that soon | 19:42 |
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| Jaffa | ecksun: Logs are available from the HAM menu. | 20:29 |
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| ecksun | Jaffa, yeah, i found that :) | 20:30 |
| Jaffa | Anything interesting/relevant? | 20:34 |
| psycho_oreos | Jaffa, are you also using ham from the cssu repo? | 20:37 |
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| thebootroo_ | hi all ! | 20:45 |
| thebootroo_ | i'm a happy N900 owner | 20:46 |
| thebootroo_ | and i just saw the news about CSSU | 20:46 |
| thebootroo_ | after adding the repos i will have a community Maemo 5 update (kind of 1.3.1 ?) | 20:46 |
| thebootroo_ | will it fix bugs about the FM transmitter not working since PR1.3 ? | 20:47 |
| psycho_oreos | its best to go through the install file as it will do all the necessary stuff to make it work | 20:47 |
| psycho_oreos | what do you mean about FM transmitter not working? it works fine here (using PR1.3 of course) | 20:47 |
| thebootroo_ | since my upgrade to pr1.3 i cant enable fm transmitter and radio is no workin too | 20:49 |
| psycho_oreos | that's unusual, they both work in my case, could it be the case that you're using a custom kernel? | 20:50 |
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| Venemo | thebootroo_: no, the fm transmitter is closed source. we can't fix it | 20:59 |
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| thebootroo_ | psycho_oreos: i used the base kernel cause my device was motherboard changed by nokia so i had the stock PR1.2 that i upgraded to PR1.3 but the FM never worked so i tried the titan kernel but no changes | 21:18 |
| psycho_oreos | thebootroo_, huh? that made no sense, you mean you have a different motherboard revision for the exact same device? | 21:20 |
| psycho_oreos | i.e. the device was sent for service due to some malfunctioning hence now it has a different motherboard? | 21:20 |
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| thebootroo_ | i not sure i have a different motherboard but the usb port is not soldered the sam way. but i think the FM transmitter problem is software | 21:30 |
| psycho_oreos | well its hard to say, Venemo said tht the fm transmitter is closed source, the application is but the driver isn't. So unless you can get the driver to be more verbose then its issues with the actual chipset. Furthermore you did say that the fm transmitter never worked which meant that regardless of the official update it will never work hence hardware malfunction | 21:32 |
| psycho_oreos | and I've just checked the available params for fmtx-si4713, looks like there's no verbose or debug capabilities with that driver | 21:45 |
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| chx | I just wanted to give a warm thanks everyone involved for fixing 6009. | 22:19 |
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| Brownout | indeed | 22:37 |
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