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| reinob | a | 21:59 |
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| juiceme | hiya! | 22:02 |
| juiceme | reinob o/ | 22:02 |
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| juiceme | peterleinchen o/ | 22:03 |
| peterleinchen | \o | 22:03 |
| reinob | hi there. sorry I'm late | 22:33 |
| juiceme | no problem, quiet night :) | 22:41 |
| reinob | yup. unfortunately I haven't much to report re. elections/sql | 22:42 |
| juiceme | ok, however I think we'd need to announce 2 things soon; the MCeV meeting and council election | 22:44 |
| reinob | I can't seem to find 1-2 hours where nothing else gets in the way. next week (easter holidays) I may get a couple of days home-alone so I'll be able to work on it | 22:44 |
| juiceme | might be possible for me also to try to have some hours then | 22:44 |
| reinob | MCeV meeting? | 22:44 |
| juiceme | the yearly meeting | 22:45 |
| juiceme | GA | 22:45 |
| reinob | how does that look like? IRC? | 22:46 |
| juiceme | basically the highest authority on all things Maemo; where things get voted on | 22:46 |
| juiceme | yes | 22:46 |
| reinob | ah OK | 22:46 |
| juiceme | I don't remember if you were present last year | 22:46 |
| reinob | nope | 22:46 |
| juiceme | okay. | 22:46 |
| juiceme | there's minutes available though | 22:47 |
| reinob | to be honest (but my head is not what it used to be :) I don't even remember having been invited, so to speak :) | 22:47 |
| reinob | I'll have a look | 22:47 |
| juiceme | but I think you're a member, right? | 22:48 |
| reinob | yes. one of the first, in fact :) | 22:48 |
| juiceme | :) | 22:48 |
| juiceme | the meeting minutes are at the bottom of the wiki page: http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoCommunity_eV#General_Assembly_2015-03-29 | 22:49 |
| juiceme | it says you were there... :p | 22:49 |
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| reinob | indeed, I just read what I wrote in the IRC log. I was there alright! | 22:52 |
| juiceme | well it has been a year so no wonder one forgets... | 22:53 |
| reinob | as for the meeting setup. we just fix a date and time. don't know if there any points in the agenda. maybe we just ask all members to propose topics | 22:53 |
| juiceme | yes, that't be good | 22:54 |
| juiceme | has htheb been around lately, usually it would be the chairman to announce these things | 22:54 |
| reinob | last week he was there but nobody else (at least until I disconnected).. maybe we'd need to ask if he wants to maintain his position as chairman? | 22:58 |
| peterleinchen | sorry, was afk. now back, reading log | 22:58 |
| juiceme | oka | 22:59 |
| chem|st | reinob: there is a mandatory agenda, incl but not limited to financial report+verification of that, changes to the bylaws (we had a referrendum changing things, and need to change phrasing and missing stuff) and election of the next board | 23:02 |
| juiceme | chem|st, thanks for reminding | 23:02 |
| peterleinchen | yep, just reading http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoCommunity_eV#General_Meetings_.28to_be_held_annually.29 | 23:03 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: and it is overdue as we agreed on Q1 each year, with a 1 month's notice... overdue | 23:03 |
| peterleinchen | so there is also general agenda already, needs only to be updated | 23:04 |
| peterleinchen | chem|st true indeed | 23:04 |
| juiceme | yes, the last one was in march and this will be pushed to end of april now | 23:04 |
| reinob | chemist: thanks | 23:04 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: take the invitation from last year and add the changes to the bylaws (they need to be inlcuded as actual quote!!!) | 23:05 |
| chem|st | I sent around the drafts and the actual invitation still had the top for changes to the bylaws | 23:05 |
| chem|st | iirc | 23:05 |
| chem|st | juiceme: and this time you need to have a proper financial report ready (sums are fine though - in+out+sum for each account) | 23:07 |
| peterleinchen | iirc bylaws changes were committed by referendum | 23:08 |
| juiceme | yes, wont be a problem | 23:08 |
| peterleinchen | do you like to have full changes text inside invitation?? | 23:08 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: nothing is committed to court yet, and there are changes we had no referrendum for (fixes mainly) | 23:09 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: old phrase with reference paragraph and new wording | 23:10 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: and it is not me who likes it it is the law that demands it, we are required to notify all members about these changes in the invitation, I have then to sign the invitation and attach it to what I send in to court for approval | 23:11 |
| chem|st | signed by council chair iirc, not me, whoever invites | 23:12 |
| peterleinchen | understood, so in general attach to invitation what we send out as referendum text | 23:13 |
| chem|st | whoever invites will also get a memberroster with email | 23:13 |
| juiceme | the procedure is well defined, so shold be no problem to have everythong set in order. | 23:13 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: there is more to change than just the council stuff | 23:14 |
| chem|st | I will lookup the changes the next days (please ping me again!), don't remember what needed to be cahnged but in an event of copy/paste-pressure-loss we borked some paragraph | 23:15 |
| chem|st | and handed that to court I think | 23:16 |
| juiceme | good. | 23:16 |
| peterleinchen | what about date of April 24th 20:00UTC ? | 23:16 |
| juiceme | so who wants to do the paperwork? | 23:16 |
| juiceme | (i hope some german speaker...) | 23:17 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:17 |
| chem|st | juiceme: warfare is secretary | 23:17 |
| chem|st | juiceme: or do you mean the invitation paperwork?! | 23:17 |
| juiceme | I mean the invitation now | 23:18 |
| juiceme | yes | 23:18 |
| peterleinchen | the invitation for meetimg will be in English,@right? | 23:18 |
| chem|st | well the invitiation was in german + english as always, the bylaw stuff I will have a look, and reinob and peterleinchen both speak german iirc | 23:19 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: nope German court, German invitation | 23:19 |
| reinob | peterleinchen is native. german is my third language. and it does suck a bit | 23:19 |
| peterleinchen | okay | 23:19 |
| chem|st | the English translation is just a curtesy to our non-German speaking members | 23:19 |
| chem|st | in terms of what court thinks it is | 23:20 |
| chem|st | just draft it and email cced to board@mo | 23:20 |
| reinob | OK. I could do the DE-EN translation, if needed | 23:20 |
| chem|st | I will get to it as soon as I had a look at the bylaw fckup | 23:20 |
| peterleinchen | as I lost all my maemo mails some time ago it would be kind of someone to send me latest one from last year | 23:21 |
| peterleinchen | about sending to members: | 23:21 |
| chem|st | reinob: we have the en part so it is actually lawful german we need and even natives suck at that^^ | 23:21 |
| peterleinchen | only chemist has all e-mails | 23:21 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: it was sent to maemo ML | 23:21 |
| peterleinchen | okay | 23:21 |
| reinob | I found the e-mail. forwarding | 23:22 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: another requirement by court is that we send it to all members directly, so we send to personal email + communityML | 23:22 |
| chem|st | I actually asked for a garage group I can maintain and send emails to but well got forgotten over time I guess | 23:23 |
| chem|st | so I am out, had a long day and 2morrow starts with a 2h drive... | 23:23 |
| juiceme | email from council member should be enough | 23:23 |
| reinob | good night chem|st | 23:23 |
| juiceme | ok, drive safely | 23:23 |
| peterleinchen | date / time of meeting? | 23:24 |
| reinob | april 24th 21:00 CET? | 23:24 |
| reinob | it's a sunday... | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen | right | 23:26 |
| juiceme | sunday's good | 23:26 |
| juiceme | an I'll be an year older then... | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen | iirc it was on a sunday; the ast one | 23:27 |
| juiceme | (birthday on the saturday) | 23:27 |
| reinob | :) | 23:27 |
| juiceme | party should be well over before the meeting since it's not yet any large one like 50's :) | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | reinob, at that day we already have ceSt | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | juoceme, getting old? ;) | 23:28 |
| juiceme | me, not really... just senile enough to forget that I'm not young any longer :9 :) :) | 23:29 |
| juiceme | and not acting my age inn any case :) | 23:29 |
| peterleinchen | :) | 23:29 |
| reinob | whatever, 21:00 on the clock :) | 23:31 |
| juiceme | CET | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | 20:00 utc, german clock 22, finnish 23 | 23:32 |
| juiceme | whatever that'll be in finland... | 23:32 |
| juiceme | :P | 23:32 |
| peterleinchen | oh I HATe that :) | 23:32 |
| reinob | a bit too late? | 23:32 |
| juiceme | so it will be *everything* but 21:00 | 23:32 |
| reinob | then 19:00 UTC? | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | think about east people (Australia) | 23:33 |
| juiceme | what's that in finland? I forget which way the DST goes... | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | I am personally fine with whatever around sunday evening | 23:33 |
| juiceme | true, need to have both australia & usa in mind | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | usa is fine with europe evening | 23:34 |
| juiceme | something that suits wikiwide | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | 19 utc, german clock 21, finnish 22 | 23:35 |
| juiceme | OK with me | 23:35 |
| reinob | have to leave now. 19:00 UTC would be fine | 23:35 |
| reinob | good night! | 23:35 |
| juiceme | gnite! | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | but Australia some very early morning | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | reinob night | 23:35 |
| juiceme | sunday morning might be OK, no classes/work then | 23:36 |
| juiceme | unless it is already monday morning then? | 23:36 |
| peterleinchen | would be Monday morning | 23:36 |
| juiceme | ah | 23:37 |
| juiceme | might have to ask what tome suits her best... | 23:37 |
| juiceme | Oksana, ping | 23:38 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, good idea | 23:38 |
| juiceme | Oksana, regarding the GA meeting, if it will be held around 19:00 CET on sunday does that feel bad for you? | 23:39 |
| juiceme | Oksana, it will be sometime around monday morning AUS time I reckon... | 23:40 |
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| Win7Mac | boy am I late, sorry | 23:41 |
| peterleinchen | last meeting started 20:00 | 23:42 |
| juiceme | Win7Mac, hi | 23:42 |
| Win7Mac | hi | 23:42 |
| juiceme | we're just wrapping up | 23:42 |
| peterleinchen | win7mac late guests are the best | 23:42 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:42 |
| Win7Mac | hehe | 23:42 |
| juiceme | topic has been arrangements for the GA meeting | 23:43 |
| * Win7Mac quick-reads the log, anything important? | 23:43 | |
| juiceme | preliminary date is set 24.4 | 23:43 |
| juiceme | we were still pondering on time, to enable australia to be in sensible time | 23:44 |
| juiceme | otherwice, all okay | 23:44 |
| juiceme | I need to drop now... | 23:45 |
| juiceme | gnite! | 23:45 |
| Win7Mac | what about council elects? | 23:46 |
| peterleinchen | juoceme nite | 23:46 |
| peterleinchen | will need to drop soon, too | 23:46 |
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