| juiceme | hiya! | 00:01 |
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| juiceme | let's discuss the nomination period extension | 00:02 |
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| juiceme | hi | 00:02 |
| Win7Mac | extend it, I'd say, it's too messed up :( | 00:04 |
| juiceme | yes, that is what I am thinking | 00:05 |
| juiceme | one week extension | 00:05 |
| juiceme | darn I really sucked with the datews | 00:05 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 00:05 |
| juiceme | missed even my own canduidacy declaration :( | 00:05 |
| Win7Mac | we're all human... | 00:06 |
| juiceme | ya, and it shows :) | 00:06 |
| juiceme | well, the new dates would be: | 00:07 |
| juiceme | nomination until saturday 8.8 | 00:07 |
| juiceme | contemplation 9.8 ... 15.8 | 00:08 |
| juiceme | voting 16.8 ... 22.8 | 00:08 |
| juiceme | so we push all dates one week forward | 00:08 |
| juiceme | and all that have already stepped forward with confirming will be taken as confirmed and we will take further confirmations on. | 00:09 |
| Win7Mac | Sounds plausible | 00:10 |
| Win7Mac | while we have it, shouldn't we reconsider "Contemplation period"? - shouldn't it be that nominees contemplate? - Esp. for the late-ins... | 00:10 |
| juiceme | I have always taken it means a period of time that fellw members may contemplate the candidates, ask them questions etc. so that they can make up teir minds whom to vote. | 00:12 |
| Win7Mac | RE: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1478526&postcount=29 | 00:12 |
| juiceme | so it is for the community members rathert than for candidates. | 00:12 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, yes, fully true | 00:12 |
| Win7Mac | but why not for nominees too? | 00:14 |
| juiceme | sure | 00:15 |
| juiceme | so that it is enough that candidates are nominated in nomination period, and need to accept during the contemplation period? | 00:15 |
| juiceme | could be understood that way too | 00:16 |
| juiceme | I think our rules are missing that | 00:16 |
| Win7Mac | the question is not how it could be understood but what's good for us, I guess | 00:17 |
| Win7Mac | If there's room for approvement, do it! | 00:18 |
| juiceme | yes, and what is good needs to be documented clearly :) | 00:18 |
| juiceme | now that I check the election rules on wiki, it says only that "Nominations will be accepted 2 weeks before the election begins from any community member with a karma of 100 or above." and "Elections last for 1 week." | 00:21 |
| juiceme | there is no official mention of "contemplation period", it seems it has only been used as a convenience | 00:22 |
| juiceme | ah | 00:23 |
| juiceme | it also says that in order for not enough candidates, nomination period should be extended by 4 weeks | 00:23 |
| juiceme | that seems a bit excessive? | 00:23 |
| juiceme | that's it then. 4 weeks is in the rules, so that's what we'll have to do. | 00:24 |
| Win7Mac | done in order to higher the chance for candidates, I guess, MC eV adopted that from http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Election_process | 00:25 |
| Win7Mac | *for more candidates... | 00:26 |
| juiceme | yes | 00:26 |
| Win7Mac | topic for another referendum... ;) | 00:27 |
| juiceme | for later, let's not change the one we are having now!! | 00:28 |
| juiceme | so. | 00:28 |
| juiceme | 4 weeks extension | 00:28 |
| Win7Mac | i said *another*... | 00:28 |
| juiceme | *grin* | 00:28 |
| juiceme | nomination will lastu until 29.8 | 00:29 |
| Win7Mac | sucks, but for the sake of our own rules... | 00:29 |
| juiceme | contemplation 30.8 ... 5.9 | 00:29 |
| juiceme | elections 6.9 ... 12.9 | 00:30 |
| juiceme | we just have to do it that way, it has been documented. | 00:30 |
| juiceme | now, I'd like to have rest of the councillors to agree. | 00:31 |
| juiceme | none here even though I called for immediate IRC meetup | 00:31 |
| juiceme | but mails have been sent and this is on irclog | 00:31 |
| juiceme | so, I am preparing to announce this on TMO and ML soon. | 00:32 |
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| peterleinchen | Sorry, just saw your invitation | 00:35 |
| juiceme | hi! | 00:35 |
| juiceme | good you managed to come! | 00:35 |
| peterleinchen | read logs | 00:35 |
| peterleinchen | and say yeah lets extend | 00:36 |
| juiceme | then you already know, we'll have to extend by 4 weeks | 00:36 |
| peterleinchen | but thats waht I expected :( | 00:36 |
| juiceme | I was originally thinking of 1 week extension but that's not enough :( | 00:36 |
| peterleinchen | no input from "community" | 00:36 |
| peterleinchen | yeah, one day would have been enough | 00:37 |
| juiceme | mmh, not many are willing to put their neck up :) | 00:37 |
| peterleinchen | but we have those stones with the rule | 00:37 |
| peterleinchen | s | 00:37 |
| juiceme | but hey, I emailed all the prevous candiddates as rzr suggested, and klingenware responded, he's going to accept :) | 00:38 |
| peterleinchen | let us just see if that "hint" | 00:38 |
| juiceme | so we will have more candidates | 00:38 |
| peterleinchen | (of not accepting in time) will produce some more nominees | 00:39 |
| Win7Mac | you guys are funny... and I nominated you... ;) | 00:39 |
| peterleinchen | yes. YOU did :) | 00:39 |
| juiceme | well, sure you nominated us *because* we are funny :) | 00:39 |
| RzR | as long as you have fun too | 00:40 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 00:40 |
| Win7Mac | I do | 00:40 |
| juiceme | RzR, nice you dropped by :) | 00:40 |
| Win7Mac | I thought there was some kind of plan behind it, tbh... | 00:40 |
| juiceme | RzR, decided to run yet? | 00:40 |
| RzR | btw let me congratulate the council | 00:40 |
| RzR | nobody steped down | 00:41 |
| Win7Mac | hehe | 00:41 |
| juiceme | ooo, sure, that must be a record! | 00:41 |
| RzR | during those past 6 months | 00:41 |
| peterleinchen | RzR, THX ;) | 00:41 |
| juiceme | :) | 00:41 |
| RzR | yea this is a reason to keep the magic team once again | 00:41 |
| peterleinchen | but we lost two member MIA LH | 00:41 |
| * juiceme silently raises a toast to our nice council! | 00:41 | |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, chin chin | 00:42 |
| Win7Mac | peterleinchen, 3 actually | 00:42 |
| Win7Mac | what happened with wiki? | 00:42 |
| juiceme | yes, but this was very challenged council, due to almost worst possible geolocation | 00:42 |
| Win7Mac | true | 00:43 |
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| juiceme | I am not sure, probably there was something happening at uni | 00:43 |
| juiceme | or so I gather | 00:43 |
| Win7Mac | ok | 00:43 |
| peterleinchen | but we just do not know | 00:44 |
| Win7Mac | ahmm | 00:44 |
| RzR | this list is incomplete isnt it http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q2_2015#Election_timetable ? | 00:44 |
| juiceme | hey, now I am confident to post the new deadlines to TMO and ML | 00:44 |
| juiceme | RzR, yes, I just quickly did it today | 00:45 |
| juiceme | you're welcome to edit it, being the resident wiki wizard | 00:45 |
| Win7Mac | thanks guys | 00:46 |
| juiceme | np :) | 00:46 |
| peterleinchen | but that means we also shift the referendum? | 00:47 |
| peterleinchen | to hold elections together | 00:47 |
| Win7Mac | unfortunately no | 00:47 |
| Win7Mac | ...according to rules | 00:48 |
| peterleinchen | dang | 00:48 |
| Win7Mac | yeah, sucks again | 00:48 |
| peterleinchen | those rules! :( ;) | 00:48 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 00:49 |
| RzR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/Council_election_Q2_2015#Nominated | 00:49 |
| RzR | updated | 00:49 |
| RzR | now i am gone | 00:49 |
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| peterleinchen | doubles the efforts on voting | 00:49 |
| peterleinchen | rZr, merci | 00:49 |
| Win7Mac | not my rules, again, MC eV adopted existing ones | 00:50 |
| juiceme | yes, that is how we need to proceed. | 00:50 |
| Win7Mac | yust saying | 00:50 |
| Win7Mac | *just | 00:50 |
| juiceme | ya | 00:50 |
| peterleinchen | okay | 00:50 |
| peterleinchen | just updated wiki page and we have now already 6 real candidates | 00:53 |
| Win7Mac | let's keep it 6! ;) | 00:53 |
| chem|st | Win7Mac: so you can drop out? not gonna happen | 00:53 |
| chem|st | reinob is listed twice... | 00:54 |
| Win7Mac | no, if 4-6 (resulting in a council of 3), I'm in! | 00:54 |
| Win7Mac | fine the nominees are listed, how about the list of candidates? | 00:56 |
| chem|st | there is an "accepted" behind the name | 00:56 |
| Win7Mac | i know, just not the same | 00:57 |
| Win7Mac | wait, I'll do it, or is someone else working on it? | 00:57 |
| chem|st | have a good night | 00:58 |
| juiceme | hey, is it now 5 or 6 confirmed's? | 00:58 |
| chem|st | on that list 5 | 00:58 |
| juiceme | I think only 5 confirmed on the ML | 00:58 |
| juiceme | yes | 00:58 |
| chem|st | reinob is listed twice | 00:59 |
| juiceme | ah | 00:59 |
| peterleinchen | 6 | 01:03 |
| peterleinchen | reinob at the end | 01:03 |
| peterleinchen | did not order | 01:04 |
| peterleinchen | will do now | 01:04 |
| juiceme | actually, 5 I think; endsormeans, juiceme, reinob, Win7Mac, peterleinchen | 01:04 |
| peterleinchen | oops | 01:05 |
| peterleinchen | yes 5 only | 01:05 |
| peterleinchen | just deleted double entry of reinob | 01:05 |
| Win7Mac | mind if I put "valid candidates"? | 01:06 |
| Win7Mac | instead of "accepted" | 01:06 |
| peterleinchen | go ahead, I am out sleeping :) | 01:06 |
| peterleinchen | gnite | 01:06 |
| Win7Mac | thanks and gnight | 01:07 |
| peterleinchen | Win7Mac, for what? :) | 01:07 |
| Win7Mac | ;) | 01:07 |
| Win7Mac | for taking care, I guess ;) | 01:07 |
| juiceme | okay, done and done | 01:08 |
| juiceme | announcement on TMO and ML | 01:08 |
| juiceme | Now, I'll go to sleep :) | 01:08 |
| juiceme | gnite all! | 01:09 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, sleep well | 01:09 |
| Win7Mac | thanks and thanks. gnight :) | 01:09 |
| Win7Mac | juiceme, probably post here too: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95811 | 01:10 |
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