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| juiceme | ya! | 23:02 |
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| juiceme | peterleinchen, o/ | 23:07 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, hi | 23:11 |
| juiceme | how's things? :) | 23:12 |
| peterleinchen | so far so good | 23:13 |
| juiceme | pretty cool here too, cool in both sense of the word. | 23:13 |
| peterleinchen | yeah, after hot weekend getting cold again here, too | 23:14 |
| juiceme | usuall in finland people start lamenting about the end of summer just next week after midsummer eve but that's yet to come... and it already feels cold :( | 23:16 |
| juiceme | like thwre's the old joke they tell about what finnish summer is like; "short but not too snowy" :) | 23:17 |
| peterleinchen | :) | 23:18 |
| peterleinchen | btw, as we are under us | 23:19 |
| peterleinchen | does your Jolla also have probs with "not shielded" charger? | 23:20 |
| peterleinchen | mine behaves totally weird when connected to UK N900 charger | 23:20 |
| juiceme | do you mean the "ghost touchscreen effect" that bothers N9? | 23:20 |
| peterleinchen | other EU N900 works "almost" | 23:20 |
| peterleinchen | Yes! ;) | 23:20 |
| juiceme | I have not seen that, but I only have quality chargers... Nokia ones :) | 23:21 |
| peterleinchen | mine, too. hehe | 23:21 |
| juiceme | have not tried any cheapos | 23:21 |
| juiceme | I don't remember, did someone at TMO have that problem also with Jolla? | 23:22 |
| peterleinchen | that Uk one is also Nokia, but N9 ghosted around with that and now Jolla, too (only N900 does not care ;)) | 23:22 |
| peterleinchen | IDK about TMO nor TJC, did not bother to check deeper | 23:23 |
| juiceme | well N900 has resistive technology... | 23:23 |
| juiceme | so it should not be affected at all :) | 23:23 |
| peterleinchen | ah yes, now that you reminde me :# | 23:23 |
| juiceme | AFAIK the whole problem is EMI affecting the capacitive scan circuit | 23:24 |
| chem|st | juiceme: it is all the same with N9 and Jolla, I have two n900 ootb chargers, one does mess up | 23:25 |
| peterleinchen | which should/must never happen!! at least my opinion | 23:25 |
| peterleinchen | chemist, hi and thx for confirming :) | 23:26 |
| chem|st | peterleinchen: buy new chargers... | 23:26 |
| juiceme | Yes I'd assume older chargers could all cause it, not being specced to be used with more sensitive devices of today... | 23:26 |
| peterleinchen | one of them is okay (and I have newer ones, too) | 23:26 |
| chem|st | it is not bad Jolla or bad N9 it is bad circuitry of the charger | 23:27 |
| juiceme | I have bunch of newer Nokia chargers, the things they sell nowdays for the Lumia devices and all work OK | 23:27 |
| chem|st | and good bye again | 23:27 |
| juiceme | bye :) | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | ohh :( | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | chemist: bye | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | so juice lets do a bit council work | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | need to sleep early | 23:28 |
| peterleinchen | did you read logs of last week | 23:29 |
| juiceme | yes, did and confirmed that the 3rd draft is OK by me. | 23:29 |
| juiceme | which is the most important thing I think | 23:29 |
| juiceme | so everybody's fine with that draft now, ready to send it? | 23:30 |
| peterleinchen | good, then we are all conform to use that draft (gerbick, oksana, juiceme, peterleinchen), with MT not seen for weeks | 23:30 |
| juiceme | Who'll post it, was that decicded? | 23:31 |
| peterleinchen | nope, as we wanted to wait for you | 23:31 |
| juiceme | ah, OK | 23:32 |
| peterleinchen | and do the next council election announcement same time | 23:32 |
| juiceme | we should have some small brace period between those, hmm? | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | so we can power on voting booth just once | 23:33 |
| juiceme | ah, well 2 elections at the same time? | 23:33 |
| juiceme | or election & referendum | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | one election, one referendum | 23:33 |
| peterleinchen | that is at least what we talked | 23:34 |
| juiceme | technically I think they have to be separate in any case, and it is not easy to combine the invitation mail into one, if you mean that? | 23:34 |
| peterleinchen | but we only need to geit it announced and let next council do the rest? nah! | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | of course two different "votings" | 23:35 |
| peterleinchen | just thought we -as current council- should handle it | 23:36 |
| juiceme | yes, so we kind of get this referendum done, and then have next council (hopefully) step in. | 23:36 |
| juiceme | BTW, are you considering the next term as councillor? | 23:37 |
| juiceme | :) | 23:37 |
| peterleinchen | hmm, and what about you? :D | 23:38 |
| juiceme | I've been at this for quite a long time.... If there are good candidates I am willing to step down. Lately the meeting time has been a bit tedious for me! | 23:39 |
| peterleinchen | same thinking, but imagine who will power the voting machine if you step down | 23:40 |
| juiceme | It is not that difficult, of course I will help/teac my successor :) | 23:43 |
| peterleinchen | but who knows (yet)? | 23:43 |
| peterleinchen | okay, normally oksana would the one to announce | 23:44 |
| peterleinchen | ref and new council | 23:44 |
| juiceme | it is always people have difficulty committing to even a bit of their time for common good! | 23:44 |
| peterleinchen | true, but using it and even damending | 23:45 |
| juiceme | I mean, we do have lots of good council material @TMO but they just don't want to get involved :( | 23:45 |
| peterleinchen | again: true! | 23:46 |
| juiceme | people like to talk&talk&talk there but how many come to these meetings? these are open for all fergossakes! | 23:46 |
| peterleinchen | and how much input did we have over the last year? | 23:47 |
| peterleinchen | from community to council? | 23:47 |
| juiceme | not much, cannot even be sure. max. 5 issues maybe? | 23:48 |
| peterleinchen | 5? that I would call exxagerating... | 23:49 |
| juiceme | maximum... | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | but maybe | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | does that really need a council? h I am asking myself) | 23:50 |
| peterleinchen | nevertheless | 23:52 |
| juiceme | what would you have on the place of the council then... I see it fairly well established channel. | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | I would say we wait for oksana (I write a mail) if she wants to announce | 23:53 |
| juiceme | pity people don't use us like they could... | 23:53 |
| peterleinchen | keep council and keep it as part of e.V.!!! | 23:54 |
| juiceme | I agree, she has good skills for presentation | 23:54 |
| juiceme | yes, that's the way to go | 23:54 |
| peterleinchen | so all out there: | 23:54 |
| juiceme | I mean, if we cannot get that then we might as well drop council alltogethetr | 23:55 |
| peterleinchen | keep council as part of e.V. | 23:55 |
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| juiceme | Win7Mac, o/ | 23:57 |
| peterleinchen | juiceme, any idea about time schedule we would like? | 23:57 |
| Win7Mac | o/ ;) | 23:57 |
| peterleinchen | hi | 23:57 |
| juiceme | to the referendum from the announcement? | 23:57 |
| peterleinchen | so possibly announce only ref and wait with new election? | 23:58 |
| Win7Mac | the idea was to have ref. + elect. in same timeframe | 23:59 |
| peterleinchen | yes that WAS idea | 23:59 |
| Win7Mac | > voting booth open in same week | 23:59 |
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