IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2015-06-02

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peterleinchenwin7mac, hi23:05
Win7Machi ;)23:06
Win7Macanybody else around?23:06
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Win7Machi gerbick23:07
gerbickHi there Win7Mac23:07
gerbickWhat have I missed today?23:07
peterleinchenuntil now; not much23:07
Win7Macnothing yet ;)23:07
gerbickCool. Stealing time right now before my teams come back in with their reports & findings.23:08
juicemehi!23:08
Win7Maci just sent a mail with a draft for a referendum...23:08
Win7Machi juiceme23:08
gerbickReading it now actually.23:08
juicemeWin7Mac, hiya and thanks!23:08
gerbickWie Geht's juiceme23:08
juicemegerbick, hi!23:08
peterleinchenwin7mac, thanks for that!!!23:08
juicemepeterleinchen, hi and welcome back!23:08
peterleinchenjuiceme, also thanks :)23:09
juicemepeterleinchen, did you have a nice holiday?23:13
peterleinchenjuiceme, yes Sir. closer to you (north sea). warm and sunny but ofc also some wind/rain ;)23:15
juicemeyes, there's been quite nice weather lately even up here :)23:15
peterleinchenjuiceme, what about your injuries? all well again?23:16
juicemeall well again, albeit have not yet received compensation for my broken glasses from the insurance comapny23:17
juicemeotherwice, okay.23:18
juicemeExcept I hurt my right knee in a floorball match last weekend :)23:18
peterleinchenoh, poor boy :(23:18
juicemedamn it's stange how you get hurt all the time these years... Wot! me getting old? no way!23:19
peterleinchenjuiceme, you say so. I confirm ;)23:19
juicemeit's not too bad but it messed up my schedule, today would have been my cycling day, but I decided not to risk it23:19
Win7Mactalking about schedule...23:20
peterleinchenokay, did you see the referendum draft mail by win7mac?23:20
peterleinchenI really believe we should continue with that23:21
juicemeyes, just reading it23:21
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peterleinchenI personally had a hard time understanding ...23:21
juicemeWin7Mac, you made really thorough documentation, excellent23:21
Win7Macty ;)23:22
juicemebut maybe what we need is also a short heading deatiling it; "tldr;" kind of23:22
Win7Macthat comes at the end23:22
peterleinchenyes, it is there. at the end23:22
juicemethe document-format is easy to read, but how to post it to TMO and mailing list so that it retains the format and structure?23:23
peterleinchensave as html??? maybe?23:23
Win7Macthat'd have to be done again i guess23:24
juicemeyes, the end, the "In other words..." part23:24
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peterleinchenon TMO the tldr; part should be at the top ;)23:26
juicemeOksanaa, morning!23:26
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peterleinchenevrybody reading?23:29
peterleinchenI hope so ...23:29
gerbickThunderstorm came through, disconnected me23:29
gerbickreading the Win7Mac referendum?23:29
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peterleinchenyes, at least get through it once23:29
peterleinchenthis is one thing we should concentrate on23:30
gerbickread it once, yes. not sure what's in dispute though.23:30
peterleinchenthe other topic will be the next council election23:30
Win7Macno dispute so far ;)23:31
Win7Macchem|st: ping23:31
Oksanaajuiceme, morning! :-) /Reading logs for today/23:34
peterleinchenoksanaa, morning. you got mail!23:36
gerbickGood morning Oksanaa23:36
OksanaaGood morning, gerbick and peterleinchen :-)23:37
OksanaaFor a moment, I read 5th of July as 7th of May ;-)23:38
* Oksanaa is reading referendum pdf...23:41
* Oksanaa thinks that /Its'/ and /it's/ look weird, in the third sentence. Maybe, simply /Its/ and /its/ ?23:44
Oksanaachanges to any of the above must be approved by a community referendum...23:47
* Oksanaa wonders if there ever was a referendum about HiFo transfering everything to MCeV23:48
Win7Macno23:48
Win7Macreferendum is about amanding council election rules only23:49
Win7Macalways been like that23:49
Win7Macthere also been no referendum to found HiFo...23:51
OksanaaJust, the amending includes removal of "Hildon Foundation" in one place, so if you follow old rules, all these edits require a referendum...23:52
* Oksanaa is being absurdly picky, probably ^23:52
Win7Macthis referendum is about accepting "new" council election rules and the whole MC eV retrospectively; plus a further amandment23:53
Win7Macplease be picky, I want to persuade everybody ;)23:54
OksanaaGood, about the referendum to accept "new" election rules and MCeV... allows to extend it further down the ruleset if desired later on23:54
* Oksanaa would like the Council responsibility to be extended within this same referendum, and not later on23:55
Win7Macwhich responsibility?23:56
juicemeit is better to be picky now than have to redo the thing again!23:56
Win7Macjuiceme, right23:56
Win7MacOksana, which responsibility you want council to take besides holding all elections?23:57
OksanaaTo bring up various community-related and techstaff-related concerns and suggestions to Board23:58
OksanaaBe it autobuilder, coding competition, or anything else23:59
Win7Macyes, that's their main job and they're free to do that anytime23:59
Win7Macthey just cannot force board to do this or that23:59
OksanaaBut currently, you have only election-holding defined as responsibility?23:59

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