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| DocScrutinizer51 | don't expect me to ctually join | 22:57 |
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| RzR | ok have fun in spain :) | 22:59 |
| juiceme | o/ | 23:01 |
| juiceme | RzR, hiya | 23:01 |
| juiceme | DocScrutinizer51, hi | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | to all: /msg chanserv access $channel list | 23:01 |
| RzR | Tue Aug 12 20:02:49 UTC 2014 | 23:02 |
| RzR | juiceme, any news from peter ? | 23:06 |
| juiceme | RzR, none from me | 23:07 |
| RzR | neil said he could be late | 23:07 |
| juiceme | I am just yesterday back from the wilderness in no-network-access-world :) | 23:08 |
| juiceme | so I have really not very much news on _anything_ | 23:08 |
| juiceme | I have been catching up on email and blogs the last day | 23:09 |
| RzR | no major revelation here :) | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | our 'problem' is not administration of IRC. All we need are co-GC to some chanop | 23:11 |
| RzR | but SSL certs updated | 23:11 |
| * RzR nods at DocScrutinizer05 | 23:11 | |
| juiceme | DocScrutinizer51, so it is adding flags +AFRfiorstv to active Maemo-people on #maemo* hierarchy, or what else is required for group-contact? | 23:13 |
| chem|st | juiceme: that is channel owner | 23:13 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Jaffa_ and generalantilles and me already are chanops, natural choice to grant GC to us | 23:13 |
| chem|st | GC is for cloaks | 23:13 |
| juiceme | chem|st, okay | 23:13 |
| chem|st | generalantilles was voted to be GC at some point | 23:13 |
| juiceme | but not promoted, I guess? | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | juiceme: adding flags is the technical aspect, adding GC is organizational | 23:14 |
| juiceme | okay | 23:14 |
| chem|st | juiceme: they asked us to have xfade sign that off as we are not nokia and that failed | 23:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and we should add warfare as our master sysop to that list | 23:16 |
| chem|st | all the irc freenode stuff will get solved in the future | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure | 23:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but council wants to solve it NOW | 23:17 |
| chem|st | warfare has enough on his plate, do you really want him to have twitter/facebook/admin too? (do we have a twitter account?) | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | HUH? | 23:18 |
| chem|st | s/admin/irc-admin/ | 23:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | GC is NOT admin | 23:18 |
| chem|st | iirc GC is no list | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | there are only freenode staff who are IRC admin | 23:19 |
| chem|st | stop bullshitting me again please | 23:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | same | 23:20 |
| RzR | >:\ | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | GC is a organizational assignment with pretty much zilch workload | 23:21 |
| chem|st | yeah so lets have the zero workload distributed | 23:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | stop speaking in riddles | 23:22 |
| chem|st | distribute *maemo workload of to several people, even if it is 0/Zero/NULL in your eyes | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | actually irc admin at large isn't HiFo's duty | 23:23 |
| chem|st | you want to tell me what hifo'duty is, again? | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and council is taking care | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm telling you waht is HiFo's duty, yes | 23:24 |
| chem|st | you are taking care of that topic for ages now... result - zero | 23:24 |
| RzR | it's making sense to have a name that would not change on each 6months | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | all 4 names I suggested *re not changing | 23:25 |
| juiceme | btw, what else was on the table for today? | 23:25 |
| juiceme | peter and niel are not here yet but still... | 23:25 |
| RzR | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Community_Council/Council_Q2_2014/Agenda | 23:25 |
| chem|st | RzR: yes, indeed - it is a more general position if you want to call it that way... | 23:25 |
| juiceme | RzR, thx | 23:25 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: iirc you were in the meeting when we agreed on generalantilles... | 23:26 |
| RzR | random topic we never talked yet : new bugs on BMO should go to all registered devs/maintainers of a package | 23:26 |
| RzR | check current extras repo against non-working apps and put back to devel | 23:26 |
| RzR | just discussion topic: future of HARMATTAN, belonging to MS, collaboration with openrepos.net, ... | 23:26 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: he accepted but nobody ever managed to get the status moved to him... | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | chem|st: so what? | 23:27 |
| chem|st | are you nokia or hifo? | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | are you silly or drunk? | 23:27 |
| RzR | take it easy please | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you simply have no clue but a pretty high self esteem | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | please educate yoursef about co-GC | 23:29 |
| chem|st | and I am a liar | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no, an elephant in the glass shop | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | first of all | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm not arguing your claim though | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xfade is GC, he can appoint as many co-GC as he wants | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | any time | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | problem solvved, without you stepping up | 23:32 |
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| juiceme | xes, hiya | 23:32 |
| xes | hi! | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so please stand back and let council do their job | 23:33 |
| RzR | so we can assume 3 or us will make this meeting now ? | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'd prefer to get counted as 'missing' | 23:36 |
| RzR | so we're about to contact jolla | 23:36 |
| juiceme | so it looks like it is just me & RzR here now. | 23:37 |
| juiceme | RzR, the contacting thing is good | 23:37 |
| RzR | I just wanted to report that it would be nice to just present ourselves | 23:37 |
| RzR | and ask them what do they expect from us | 23:37 |
| juiceme | and it is good to know that we actually require nothing from them, just to contact xfade, no workload for him | 23:37 |
| RzR | and then in a later email we'll tell what we expect them to do for maemo | 23:38 |
| RzR | yea | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | jolla doesn't expect anything from council | 23:38 |
| juiceme | that'll be good | 23:38 |
| RzR | no need to bother jolla about some of their employee | 23:38 |
| RzR | someone is already doing this :) | 23:38 |
| juiceme | DocScrutinizer51, I believe you might be correct but sending an introductory mail is good anyway | 23:39 |
| juiceme | okay | 23:39 |
| juiceme | someone being? | 23:39 |
| RzR | wont detail this here | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | don't send too many too long mails please | 23:39 |
| juiceme | okay | 23:39 |
| chem|st | hifo did that already, there are open mails saved somewhere, probably you want to start from there | 23:39 |
| RzR | chem|st, is it public ? | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the more mails you send the more likely they get ignored | 23:40 |
| juiceme | well, until all councillors agree we wont't be sending anything in the name of the council | 23:40 |
| chem|st | RzR: yes | 23:40 |
| RzR | :// ? | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | juiceme: right | 23:40 |
| chem|st | and I tried to contact community spokesmen but they never even replied, not even a "we are not interested" | 23:40 |
| chem|st | http://hildonfoundation.org/open-letter-from-the-hildon-foundation-to-jolla/ | 23:41 |
| RzR | I can understand they did not answer to a letter that mention nokia | 23:42 |
| RzR | and $ :) | 23:43 |
| chem|st | they replied to the linked one | 23:43 |
| RzR | anway I remember that letter | 23:44 |
| RzR | it was years ago | 23:44 |
| chem|st | the followup was the bad part iirc | 23:44 |
| chem|st | as soon as it gets the slightest demanding they shut you out | 23:44 |
| juiceme | well, they just did not see any benefit for themselves I think, wanting to establish an own community | 23:45 |
| RzR | this does not mean there is no interactions | 23:45 |
| RzR | may we crosspost to together.j.c and ask for coop ideas ? | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway please do NOT mix any such 'making friends' with the actual problem related to xfade | 23:47 |
| chem|st | I have a topic for next time or in general, now that Maemo Community e.V. is registered we can actually have new members sign up, should hae a maemo.org page for bylaws, meeting-minutes and other documents and maybe a blog like the council one posting to tmo too | 23:47 |
| juiceme | is wiki okay for that? | 23:48 |
| chem|st | RzR: I can ask eric when he is back from vacation (tjc) | 23:48 |
| chem|st | juiceme: don't think wiki is a good idea, we will be required to take down the maemo.org starting-page after nokia signs off and from what I clicked through midgard we need to have a lot of dead stuff lying around | 23:50 |
| chem|st | s/take down/replace/ | 23:50 |
| juiceme | okay | 23:50 |
| RzR | ok ... talking about wiki | 23:51 |
| RzR | would it possible to backup it and release the archive file before we switch to post nokia era | 23:51 |
| RzR | we lost meego wiki | 23:52 |
| chem|st | RzR: nothing of the stuff will go away, maemo.org is all ours | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | WUT??? | 23:52 |
| RzR | online use could be good | 23:53 |
| RzR | for preservation concern too | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | need to take down maemo.org? | 23:53 |
| RzR | he just said replace the frontpage | 23:53 |
| RzR | and probably remove all nokia references | 23:53 |
| chem|st | RzR: thanks | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | why? | 23:53 |
| RzR | I guess nok is no more supporting it ? | 23:54 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: because we will be forced to for a considerable amount of time, the landingpage does not hold any content as of now | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sorry? | 23:55 |
| RzR | like maemo R.I.P (click here to rollback) | 23:56 |
| chem|st | they force us to post an anouncement for iirc 3 month on the landingpage | 23:56 |
| chem|st | RzR: nope just the landingpage | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | which type of announcement? | 23:56 |
| RzR | not a big deal | 23:56 |
| chem|st | guys ther is only a picture on the landingpage | 23:56 |
| RzR | as long he does not rederect to msdev :) | 23:56 |
| RzR | it does not | 23:57 |
| chem|st | ah no that was intro... | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | on my maemo.org 'landing page' there is quite a bit more than a picture only | 23:57 |
| chem|st | then the "downloads for m5" will need to move for a while | 23:57 |
| juiceme | chem|st, do you have a mockup of the landingpage change? | 23:57 |
| chem|st | juiceme: replace teh content field with text... | 23:58 |
| RzR | could those instructions be shared ? | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | could we please talk hard facts, like real URL etc? | 23:58 |
| RzR | or should it remain secret ? | 23:58 |
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