IRC log of #maemo-meeting for Tuesday, 2014-03-18

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juicemehiya! o/21:59
chem|st_o/21:59
nieldkHi all :)21:59
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Win7Macaloha22:00
chem|stWin7Mac: did you alter the articles to reflect that there is no se3cretary for council?22:00
lowkyalur_boa tarde22:00
Win7Macyes, thanks for the tip22:00
chem|stty22:01
Win7Macnp22:01
chem|stjuiceme: you wanna start with normal meeting? is there anything?22:02
chem|stbefore we start anything founding wise...22:03
juicemeWell, on the normal agenda there's not much AOB22:03
DocScrutinizer05are there concepts how to hold a real time electronic media passive member meeting , with elections/decisions?22:03
chem|stok22:03
DocScrutinizer05mind you, there are roundabout 6000 passive members22:04
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: there is IRC and it is capable of doing things like that for 1000+ people22:04
DocScrutinizer05I don't see any voting happening on IRC22:04
DocScrutinizer05*shrug*22:05
Win7Macpassive members vote like they always did22:05
DocScrutinizer05I'm *not* going to organize that22:05
chem|stthere is no realtime voting of passive members but there are voting engines for that as well22:05
Win7Macright22:06
juicemeHow is the traditional voting engine at Maemo, is it usable?22:06
DocScrutinizer05not really, juiceme22:06
DocScrutinizer05it kinda works, but only woody knows how it does22:06
juicemeok22:06
chem|stjuiceme: if someone gets an introduction to its backend and "feel" by woody this should be possible22:06
juicemeI'd say if it was working it would be the best way to handle voting.22:07
chem|stjuiceme: it is the only way we are considering atm22:07
chem|stif this is not working we need to make it working22:08
juicemeso we need to ask woody about it, if he's willing to admin it or help somebody else take over it22:08
juicemeyes22:08
chem|styes22:08
DocScrutinizer05>>(4) Aufgabe der passiven Mitgliederversammlung ist die Wahl des Vorstandsrats. <<22:08
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: please post the english translation22:09
nieldkDoes anyone knows the situation with Woody ?22:09
chem|stno help posting german bits22:09
juicemeThe object of the passive members' meeting is the election of the Executive Council. (google translate)22:09
chem|stnieldk: board is in contact with woody22:09
Win7Maccouncil elections happen same way as they always did22:10
juicememind you, I know almost nil German but GT helps a lot22:10
chem|stjuiceme: all bylaws are translated in the same pad as its origin22:10
Win7Macthe english translation is at the bootom of each pad22:11
juicemeyes, I have read the english parts, but obviously cannot vouch for the German parts :)22:11
chem|stas long as warfare is missing we are one man short for founding22:12
Win7Mache said he will join, so lets wait a bit22:12
juicemeSo, there are 21 people in the meeting channel now, I wonder how many are idling and how many are really here.22:12
nieldk23, and 2 idle22:13
juicemeCould we arrange a show of hands, for the non-council, non-board members currently on tha channel?22:13
nieldkI guess I am one :)22:14
lowkyalur_meh22:15
chem|stchainsawbike freemangordon GeneralAntilles gregoa Jaffa jyrjyr kerio lbt M4rtinK qwazix sixwheeledbeast thedead1440 Titilambert xes you guys followign or just idle?22:15
DocScrutinizer05you'll need their maemo.org nicks at least22:15
keriowait what22:16
juicemefor the minutes I need those, and preferrably real names, too.22:16
TitilambertI m idle... im working right now22:16
Titilambertchem|st: do you prefer i disconnect ?22:16
Win7Macno22:17
chem|stno idle is fine just so we know, we need the record to reflect participant22:17
juicemeTitilambert, no, that won't be necessary22:17
* kerio &22:17
Titilambertoki !22:17
Titilambertnp22:17
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Win7Macno need for renaming the nick now, everybody has to state his real name later and that's it22:19
* sixwheeledbeast was idle22:19
Win7Maclet's just wait a bit for warfare, he said he will attend today22:19
Win7MacSo how do you like the name "Maemo Community e.V."?22:19
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sixwheeledbeastWin7Mac: np here22:20
nieldkWin7Mac: np here as well22:20
juicemeWin7Mac, that sounds fine to me. "Hildon" somehow did not resonate with me22:21
Win7Macso true...22:21
chem|stjuiceme: that's why I brought that up in the firstplace22:21
Win7Macoh did *you*?...22:22
juiceme:)22:22
chem|stbring in Maemo in the new name...22:22
chem|stthe Maemo "Community" wasn't my idea22:22
Win7Mac;)22:23
M4rtinKI'm listening now :)22:25
juicemewhich part of the globe is warfare from?22:25
chem|stM4rtinK: nothing to see, go back to sleep ;)22:25
juicemewhat's the timezone there, I mean..22:25
chem|stjuiceme: hamburg22:25
juicemeokay.22:25
chem|stCET22:25
chem|stI pinged him22:25
Win7Mache'll join in a minute22:25
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Win7Macso you all seen my email with the agenda for the founding part?22:27
nieldkYes22:27
juicemeyes22:27
warfareHi everyone, sorry I'm late to the party.22:27
lowkyalur_Win7Mac: yes22:27
chem|sty22:27
chem|sto/22:27
Win7Maco/ warfare ;)22:27
nieldkwarfare: welcome :)22:27
juicemewarfare, welcome :)22:27
lowkyalur_warfare: welcome to the party of the year22:27
joerg_rw/query me when the bar opens22:28
chem|stso lets start then22:29
Win7Macit opens NOW22:29
Win7MacI suggest chem|st to be assemblys' chairman22:30
juicemesecond that.22:30
nieldkhear22:30
juicemechem|st, please take the con22:30
juiceme(I have always wanted to say that :)22:31
nieldk(juiceme) but yoy wrote that now :)22:31
chem|stFounding meeting for Maemo Community e.V starts now, it is 21:32 March 18 2014 this is #maemo-meeting on the IRC server of freenode22:32
chem|stPlease state your realname for the protocol starting with joerg_rw22:32
chem|stWell write your realname, this is not liek we have to wait for anything22:34
chem|stRuediger Schiller22:34
Win7MacGido Griese22:34
nieldkNiel Nielsen22:34
juicemeJussi Ohenoja22:34
warfareFalk Stern22:34
lowkyalur_Robert Schiller22:34
chem|stDocScrutinizer51: please state your realname22:35
joerg_rwjoerg Reisenweber22:35
chem|stM4rtinK: please state your realname22:35
chem|stok I'd say we have no guests then22:37
chainsawbikechem|st, i am following now so : Aaron McEwan22:37
M4rtinKMartin Kolman22:37
chem|stah....22:37
chem|stnow it works ;)22:37
chem|stthanks22:37
chem|stI herby open the Founding General Assembly of the Maemo Community e.V. i.G.22:38
joerg_rwannouncing possible interest in maemo according to §4.1(6), on my person22:39
chem|stThis assembly was called to found the Maemo Community Association, elect its Board and Council and accept the articles of incorporations as well as the association rules22:40
Win7Macjoerg_rw, that is accepted (at least from my POV), because it's the only way to integrate existing council22:42
chem|stAs suggested by others I am willing to take the position of the chairman of this assembly, any objections?22:43
nieldkno objections22:43
warfarenone.22:43
lowkyalur_not from me22:43
Win7Macnope22:43
juicemeno objections22:43
chem|stFor secretary of this assembly I suggest juiceme.22:45
lowkyalur_great.22:45
nieldkagree22:45
Win7Macno objections22:45
chem|stjuiceme: do you accept the position of secretary of this assembly?22:46
juicemeI thank the assembly and accept.22:46
Win7Macthank you!22:46
chem|stso that was 6... now 7...22:47
chem|stDo you agree to conclude to the articles of incorporation and the association rules? (Yes/No/abstention)22:48
warfareYes.22:48
Win7MacYes22:48
nieldkYes22:48
lowkyalur_aye. (yes.)22:48
juicemeyes22:48
joerg_rwI agree, though I note that those have no impact on council rules and can't have until council would start a referendum to change said rules. Aside from this concern all fine with me22:50
chem|styes or no please22:50
joerg_rwyes22:50
chem|stthanks22:50
chem|stfrom me this is also a "Yes"22:50
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chem|stLet the record reflect that the assembly accepted the articles of incorporation and the association rules unanimously and therfore found the Maemo Community Association and all founders are hereby said active members.22:53
chem|st"therefore"22:53
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chem|stjuiceme nieldk chem|st you have been nominated for being director of the association, do you accept this nomination?22:55
chem|stYes22:55
nieldkyes22:56
juicemeyes22:56
chem|st10. Election fo the Board: Please vote for juiceme (Yes/No/abstention)22:57
lowkyalur_yes22:57
chem|styes22:57
nieldkyes22:57
warfareyes22:57
Win7Macyes22:57
chem|stjuiceme: DocScrutinizer51 ?22:58
joerg_rwyes22:58
juicemeThank you for the honours.22:59
chem|stjuiceme: we need a (Yes/No/abstention) for the record ;)22:59
juicemeyes22:59
chem|stthanks22:59
chem|stPlease vote for nieldk23:00
chem|styes23:00
lowkyalur_yes23:00
Win7Macnot really, Feel free to disclaim to vote for yourself is ok23:00
Win7Macyes for nieldk23:00
nieldkabstention23:00
warfareyes23:00
juicemeyes23:00
chem|stDocScrutinizer51...23:01
Win7Mactap tap...23:01
joerg_rwyes23:01
chem|stWin7Mac: disclaim? or abstention?23:01
chem|stthanks23:02
chem|stplease vote for chem|st23:02
nieldkYes23:02
juicemeyes23:02
warfareyes23:02
Win7Macdisclaim, otherwise it wouldn't be unanimously23:02
Win7Macyes for chem|st23:02
chem|stah ok23:02
chem|stthen I disclaim23:03
Win7Macgoood23:03
chem|stguess the same is for nieldk then?23:03
Win7Macwould be nice23:04
chem|stso this is unanimously if DocScrutinizer51 says yes here23:04
chem|stnieldk: did you mean to disclaim?23:04
joerg_rwumm, what's the question?23:04
nieldkYes, I disclaim to vote for myself23:04
chem|ststill directors23:04
joerg_rwyes23:04
lowkyalur_yes for chem|st23:04
Win7Macnieldk, thanks, we will correct that23:04
Win7Macin the meeting minutes23:05
chem|stPlease let the record reflect that all directors have been voted for unanimously.23:06
chem|st(board only now) Do you conlude the Board's Internal Regulations.23:07
chem|styes23:07
juicemeyes23:07
nieldkyes23:08
chem|stPlease let the record reflect that the board enacts its internal regulations unanimously.23:08
chem|stI nominate juiceme for Secretary and nieldk for Treasurer23:09
juicemeI second the nomination of nieldk23:10
nieldkAnd I seconf the nomination of juiceme for Secretary23:10
nieldk...second ...23:11
chem|st(we need a chairman...)23:11
chem|st;)23:11
nieldkI nominate chemist as chairman23:11
juicemeI second the nomination of chem|st23:12
chem|stDo you accept a Board assignment of this constellation, chem|st chairman, juiceme secretary and nieldk treasurer?23:12
chem|styes23:12
nieldkyes23:12
juicemeyes23:13
chem|stjuice you know the record thing right^^23:13
juicemehmm, sorry?23:13
chem|st the board of directors, consisting of23:13
chem|st    Ruediger Schiller, Jussi Ohenoja and Niel Nielsen, has been23:13
chem|st    appointed statutably.23:13
nieldk(juiceme: irc logging)23:14
chem|stjuiceme: "Please let the record reflect..."23:14
juicemeyes, all is logged AFAIK23:14
juicemePlease let the record reflect that the board assignments have been selected.23:14
chem|stok23:14
chem|stjoerg_rw, juiceme, chem|st : you have been nominated for first council of the association, do you accept this nomination?23:16
chem|styes23:16
joerg_rwyes23:16
juicemeThe board is as follows; Chairman is Ruediger Schiller, Secretary is Jussi Ohenoja, Treasurer is Niel Nielsen.23:16
juicemeyes23:16
chem|styes23:16
juicemePlease let the record reflect that the board has accepted the nomination unanimously.23:16
chem|st(all now again) Please vote for joerg_rw23:17
warfareyes23:17
nieldkyes23:17
Win7Macyes23:17
chem|styes23:17
lowkyalur_abstention23:18
joerg_rwabstention23:18
juicemeyes23:18
chem|stplease vote for juiceme23:18
joerg_rwyes23:18
warfareyes23:18
juicemeabstention23:18
chem|styes23:18
nieldkyes23:18
Win7Macyes23:18
lowkyalur_yes23:18
chem|stplease vote for chainsawbike23:19
chem|stsry chainsawbike23:19
lowkyalur_yes23:19
juicemeyes23:19
chem|stplease vote for chem|st23:19
warfareyes23:19
juicemeyes23:19
nieldkyes23:19
joerg_rwyes23:19
Win7Macyes23:19
lowkyalur_yes *giggles*23:19
chem|stabstention23:19
chem|stty23:19
chem|st(council) I nominate juiceme for chairman23:20
joerg_rwyes23:20
juicemeabstention23:21
chem|stjuiceme: do you accept the position as chairman?23:21
chem|st(yes from me of course23:21
juicemeyes23:21
chem|stok23:21
chem|st...23:21
chem|stthe council, consisting of Ruediger Schiller, Jussi Ohenoja and Joerg Reisenweber, has been appointed statutably23:21
lowkyalur_*grats*23:22
juicemePlease let the record reflect that the current maemo council has accepted to continue as maemo council.23:22
chem|stStatement about member fees: Reference to the articles of incorporation § 5 (1) Passive23:24
chem|st    membership generally is free of any charges. (2) Amount and due-date23:24
chem|st    of active-membership fees are regulated by the Association Rules23:24
chem|st    which shall be decided by the General Assembly. Association Rules §23:24
chem|st    2 (1) Any payment of fees for active or honoured members is23:24
chem|st    suspended for the time being, but may happen on a voluntary basis.23:24
Win7Macwe should agree on this, seems nescessary by law23:25
joerg_rwyes23:25
warfareagreed23:25
chem|styes23:25
lowkyalur_yes23:25
juicemeyes, agreed23:25
Win7Macto fix this in this meeting23:25
nieldkyes23:25
Win7Macyes23:25
chem|stThe General Assembly hereby assigns the Board of directors to do all nescessary steps to register the association at the district court.23:26
chem|styes23:26
Win7Macyes23:26
warfareyes23:26
joerg_rwyes23:26
lowkyalur_yes23:26
juicemeyes23:26
nieldkyes23:26
chem|stok thanks lads! we did the hard part...23:27
joerg_rwanything else? I'm late for other stuff already23:27
chem|stI herby close the assembly.23:27
joerg_rwcheers23:27
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juicemeThank you, averybody!23:27
Win7Macawesome, thanks everybody!23:27
nieldklikewise23:27
lowkyalur_cheers23:28
chem|stwho is starting the snailmail? juiceme on friday?23:28
juicemeI's official now, phew :)23:28
juicemeYes, unfortunately cannot do it before friday, but I hope that does not delay things too much.23:28
chem|stjuiceme: should be fine, courtworker said 8-ten days23:29
lowkyalur_fine with me I'm not in before Friday neways23:29
chem|stjuiceme: if we get this done in 2 weeks we have an eV in 423:30
Win7MacI suggest: juiceme prints and signs all documents, then sends to nieldk. He signs all documents, then sends to chemist. chemist then signs all documents and sends the bylaws only to joerg_rw, he signs and sends to me. I meet warfare, we both sign and I send the bylaws to low. low signs and sends back to chemist. chemist then sends all documents to the registering court.23:30
juicemeSo, to recap; Win7Mac will send me the papers, I'll print them, sign, notarize and send to Nieldk, right?23:30
juicemeah23:30
chem|styeah23:31
Win7Macexactly, if that fits with niel23:31
juicemeWin7Mac you were quicker :)23:31
chem|stsounds good 2me23:31
nieldkyes23:31
lowkyalur_yes23:32
Win7MacGREAT23:34
warfare:)23:34
Win7Mac:)23:34
juicemeallright, unless there's something else, I'll need to go now?23:36
Win7Macsure, thanks again everybody23:37
juicemebye then!23:38
chem|stjuiceme: sure I am off as well, bye23:38
nieldkThanks all23:38
nieldkand bye 4 now23:38
chem|sto/23:38
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