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| chem|st | I made Jollausers admin aware of breaking CC license, one way it was advertising maemo.org but now they get referrals on facebook for jollasuomi forums or even post it that way themselves - the website is standard (C) which is wrong as well. | 17:03 |
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| chem|st | o/ | 21:59 |
| juiceme | o/ | 22:00 |
| chem|st | so I tried carol several times now in 3 weeks without response, I asked carsten for another contact but he was in a meeting and did not get back to me | 22:01 |
| juiceme | seems they are really busy now | 22:01 |
| chem|st | we have progress on the German e.V. front and are sorting things out these coming weeks | 22:02 |
| chem|st | wiki has been updated accordingly and a post in tmo has been made | 22:02 |
| chem|st | minutes should reflect that with links | 22:03 |
| Win7Mac | :) | 22:03 |
| juiceme | I saw there was a call of german-speaking people as the founders, did you already got enough? | 22:03 |
| chem|st | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92536 | 22:03 |
| chem|st | and in wiki under Hifo is a new entry from today | 22:04 |
| Win7Mac | to get the 7 for the founding-meeting is no real problem, we need contributers for the bylaws | 22:04 |
| juiceme | transaltion to german? | 22:04 |
| juiceme | s/transaltion/translation/ | 22:04 |
| chem|st | http://wiki.maemo.org/Hildon_Foundation/Hildon_e.V. | 22:04 |
| chem|st | translation into english | 22:05 |
| Win7Mac | I'd prefer to do it german and translate to english to meet "german standards" | 22:05 |
| chem|st | or both actually as we want to adapt the current bylaws as good as possible | 22:05 |
| chem|st | all that will need a community vote in the end | 22:06 |
| chem|st | board is missing out on talking to nokia and nokia has not replied to the previous attempt | 22:07 |
| chem|st | that's it on that for now | 22:07 |
| chem|st | next on my list is neo900 hackfest/coding marathon and Maemo Regatta | 22:08 |
| juiceme | does the migration from US-foundation to German-eV cnage that in any way? | 22:08 |
| juiceme | the Nokia thingy, I mena? | 22:08 |
| chem|st | I put a formal request of support fwd to HiFo board | 22:08 |
| chem|st | yeah we need to make sure that hifo is actually allowed to pass the agreement/contract down to the new e.V. | 22:09 |
| juiceme | okay | 22:09 |
| chem|st | if we don't do that we might end up calling microsoft for it in the end and I doubt that will do any good | 22:10 |
| chem|st | we need to get this closed but the nokia folks are already absorbed by transition | 22:10 |
| chem|st | in about a month or so you wont be able to catch any of them anymore | 22:11 |
| chem|st | for some month or so | 22:11 |
| chem|st | so still open is funding/sponsorship of said competitions and closure of nokia | 22:13 |
| chem|st | I think a fundraiser for said competitions might work, but without a working paypal we are down to bitcoin, SEPA and international wire transfer | 22:14 |
| juiceme | all of those are OK for some people, but paypal is often preferred | 22:15 |
| chem|st | and raising funds on a private account is for all I know by now illegal, another reason we should push things fwd with the e.V. | 22:15 |
| juiceme | ok, I did not know that | 22:15 |
| chem|st | me neither until I got some stuff to read about treasuremanagement in germany | 22:16 |
| chem|st | the treasurer is not allowed to handle any funds with a private bank account | 22:17 |
| chem|st | as all funds have to be accessible by allowed persons at all times (law is stupid as a cash holding of funds is legal if separated from my own funds...) | 22:18 |
| chem|st | the funds thing will become easy and transparent as soon as we are officially registered and stuff but no second earlier | 22:19 |
| juiceme | I guess the laws just have to be written so that potential tax evasion & fraud can be minimized... | 22:20 |
| juiceme | I need to be going, AOB? | 22:28 |
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| chem|st | nothing to add | 22:30 |
| chem|st | hey GeneralAntilles | 22:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | Howdy | 22:30 |
| chem|st | who will fill in the missing secretary pos for now? | 22:31 |
| Win7Mac | Hi GeneralAntilles! | 22:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | Good question. | 22:32 |
| juiceme | bye, till next time... | 22:33 |
| chem|st | bye | 22:33 |
| Win7Mac | preferrably someone in the US... | 22:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Presumably I'm probably the best alternative given the tasks everybody else is shouldering. | 22:38 |
| Win7Mac | that would actually be great! | 22:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | However, I distinctly lack expertise in this area. | 22:39 |
| chem|st | well we need someone with physical access to US grounds to kick some banksters asses and stuff | 22:40 |
| Win7Mac | I'm sure our ex will help | 22:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, the financial entities we've been dealing with so far are both regional. | 22:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | Neither Andrew nor myself have physical access to them. | 22:42 |
| chem|st | yes but if woody wants to get rid of it we need to have the funds transfered to a new hifo account under control | 22:42 |
| chem|st | preferably not a regional | 22:42 |
| Win7Mac | Woody may close the account and send the check to any of us 4. The receiver could simply hold it until new account for e.V. is set up and forward it to new treasurer or secretary? | 22:54 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | o/ | 22:55 |
| Win7Mac | He even may hold the account until takedown of US foundation and handle taxes, if we designate him | 22:56 |
| Win7Mac | Hi Jaffa! o/ | 22:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have a small topic for CC when you are not busy. | 23:00 |
| chem|st | sixwheeledbeast: shoot it... CC meeting is over for 30min but ok | 23:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sorry I have only just sat down from work. | 23:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it's RE tracker-cfg package. It's in extras-testing with 12+ votes and no maintainer, I asked if it is possible to promote? fmg said CC would have to decide. | 23:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | http://maemo.org/packages/view/tracker-cfg/ | 23:06 |
| chem|st | techstaff@ or sysops@m.o is where to go... someone just has to promote it... | 23:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | So shall I just go ahead and take on the role of secretary? | 23:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ok I can e-mail techstaff if that's the preferred method. I suppose any repo maintainer could promote if CC gave the thumbs up. | 23:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok to promote, so 2 of 3 nodded off | 23:24 |
| Win7Mac | 2/4 actually... | 23:25 |
| Win7Mac | Jaffa: ^^ | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Package has been promoted. Go back to the package instance page. | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 23:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :) | 23:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ta Doc | 23:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | Going semi-AFK. Highlight me if something happens. | 23:36 |
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