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| ivgalvez__ | Hi nieldk | 20:59 |
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| nieldk | hello Ivan :) | 21:00 |
| nieldk | most others on holiday now I guess? | 21:01 |
| ivgalvez__ | I don't know if SD69 is on holiday or abducted by work | 21:02 |
| ivgalvez__ | I'm afraid that if he doesn't come we won't be able to do much | 21:02 |
| ivgalvez__ | Woody is on holiday | 21:02 |
| ivgalvez__ | let's wait a few minutes just in case | 21:03 |
| nieldk | sure thing | 21:03 |
| ivgalvez__ | now I have the feeling that I send mails that nobody reads | 21:03 |
| nieldk | hmm, I hope not | 21:05 |
| ivgalvez__ | I have send more than 50 mails to individual developers | 21:05 |
| ivgalvez__ | about promotion of aplications from Testing | 21:05 |
| nieldk | no repplies? | 21:06 |
| ivgalvez__ | less than 10 | 21:06 |
| nieldk | not good | 21:06 |
| ivgalvez__ | depressing | 21:06 |
| nieldk | lets hope its 'just' the holiday season | 21:07 |
| nieldk | think its worth mentioning though, on the minutes, or somewhere | 21:07 |
| ivgalvez__ | nah, I've been pushing the promotion thing since months ago | 21:07 |
| ivgalvez__ | also pestering mailing lists and TMO | 21:08 |
| ivgalvez__ | It's that we are justa few left now | 21:08 |
| nieldk | true | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez__ | Well I think we can start | 21:09 |
| nieldk | i guess ppl also looking into Jolla | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez__ | #start Maemo Council Meeting | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | Agenda items include: | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | 1> Update on bylaws and presentation/setup for NFP | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | 2> Infrastructure migration issues | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | 3> CSSU support and issues | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | 4> Misc topics. | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez__ | Topic 1: (Update on bylaws) | 21:11 |
| ivgalvez__ | ~seen SD69 | 21:11 |
| ivgalvez__ | We can't do much on this topic until SD69 is available again. Woody commented that he would review the bylaws and publish them in case Rob doesn't return by next week | 21:12 |
| ivgalvez__ | we need to publish them the sooner the better on blog/TMO/ml | 21:12 |
| ivgalvez__ | to receive feedback from the community and prepare for election | 21:13 |
| nieldk | can we publish 'as is'? | 21:13 |
| ivgalvez__ | that's what Woody will do if we don't have feedback from SD69 | 21:13 |
| ivgalvez__ | also consider that if we publish now in the middle of August, not many people will notice | 21:14 |
| nieldk | so, on hold, one week? | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez__ | I think so | 21:14 |
| nieldk | ok | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez__ | Topic 2: Infrastructure migration issues | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez__ | X-Fade: ping | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez__ | merlin1991: ping | 21:15 |
| ivgalvez__ | Woody commented during last Council Meeting that merlin1991 had finally obtained the administrative rights to repositories but something wasn't working correctly in the web interface. | 21:16 |
| nieldk | and the database issue? | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez__ | I had sent a few emails insisting in this migration to X-Fade with no response, last of them today asking also to merlin1991 about the current situation | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez__ | nieldk can you ellaborate? | 21:17 |
| nieldk | i recall there were an issue with getting the current database (users etc) | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez__ | yes, thats related to TMO migration | 21:19 |
| nieldk | IC | 21:19 |
| ivgalvez__ | Reggie was reluctant to traspass the data to Legal Entity once it was formed | 21:19 |
| ivgalvez__ | though at first sight he commented he would dump the full TMO database | 21:20 |
| ivgalvez__ | but that's something to work once we have formed the legal entity | 21:21 |
| nieldk | minor, i guess, compared to repositories | 21:21 |
| nieldk | yes | 21:21 |
| ivgalvez__ | we are also pending on Legal Entity to get control on maemo.org domain | 21:21 |
| ivgalvez__ | which qgil has already commented will be traspassed by Nokia | 21:21 |
| nieldk | so, we need to push the legal entity reallu hard | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez__ | so to hurry up those topics we first need to solve Topic 1 | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez__ | yep | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez__ | I'm worried about qgil situation at Nokia | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez__ | I don't know how the Qt sale to Digia will affect him | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez__ | and we really need him at Nokia to finalize the transition | 21:23 |
| nieldk | no | 21:23 |
| nieldk | yes | 21:23 |
| ivgalvez__ | So Topic 2 is also pending, in this case from X-Fade and merlin1991 | 21:24 |
| ivgalvez__ | once we start taking control over repositories, we need to add more people to the administration crew | 21:24 |
| ivgalvez__ | freemangordon, Pali and lma have volunteered | 21:24 |
| ivgalvez__ | Pali won't be available until October | 21:25 |
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| ivgalvez__ | but for that we really need X.-Fade to answer our requests | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez__ | PAli heelo | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez__ | Pali hello | 21:25 |
| Pali | hi | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez__ | please check the logs | 21:25 |
| Pali | ok, going | 21:26 |
| ivgalvez__ | we were talking about infrastructure | 21:26 |
| ivgalvez__ | once we gain control over repositories we'll be able to fix a lot of issues (I hope) | 21:27 |
| nieldk | agree | 21:27 |
| ivgalvez__ | deletion of malfunctioning applications, promotion of packages, problems with KP... | 21:27 |
| ivgalvez__ | but we are pending on X-Fade response since July 17th | 21:28 |
| ivgalvez__ | I know it's bad timing | 21:28 |
| ivgalvez__ | Pali, do you want to comment about this topic | 21:29 |
| ivgalvez__ | ? | 21:29 |
| Pali | I want to see fixed repositories :-) | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez__ | :-) | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez__ | OK | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez__ | Topic 3 (CSSU support and issues) | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez__ | It seems that the shitstorm after last CSSU meeting has ceased | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez__ | Pali, how do you see it? Everything OK? | 21:31 |
| Pali | needs to testing new cssu-devel packages | 21:31 |
| Pali | I think that my changes (except ke-recv) should go to cssu-testing | 21:31 |
| Pali | ivgalvez__, see changelog: http://pastebin.com/tmfrMH7G | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez__ | That is planned for next week, isn't it? | 21:32 |
| Pali | yes, we are waiting for merlin | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez__ | yes, I was studying it today | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez__ | While commenting about pushing CSSU enabler to Extras | 21:33 |
| ivgalvez__ | you told me that it was somehow uncluear | 21:33 |
| ivgalvez__ | unclear | 21:33 |
| ivgalvez__ | who's responsible on that | 21:33 |
| Pali | sorry, enabler was not in extras, MAG pushed this: https://maemo.org/packages/view/mp-fremantle-community-pr/ | 21:34 |
| Pali | so enabler was not in extras | 21:35 |
| ivgalvez__ | OK | 21:35 |
| ivgalvez__ | then it shouldn't be a problem | 21:35 |
| ivgalvez__ | anyhow | 21:35 |
| ivgalvez__ | this is atopic to be discussed during a CSSU meeting | 21:35 |
| ivgalvez__ | I have directed a proposal to CSSU team via ml: it would be useful to have scheduled meetings, considering the big momentum and the quantity of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving. At least if it doesn't increase the overhead of the project. | 21:35 |
| Pali | yes, but (new) enabler is stil in cssu-devel | 21:35 |
| Pali | we need to test it if everything works... | 21:36 |
| Pali | enabler was rewritten | 21:36 |
| ivgalvez__ | Yes, the question here is that these kind of topics could be considered on CSSU meetings with proper agenda and minutes, otherwise it's diffcult to decide what's included and what's not | 21:37 |
| ivgalvez__ | I'm thinking about last meetinf | 21:37 |
| ivgalvez__ | meeting | 21:37 |
| ivgalvez__ | the result is unclear to me | 21:37 |
| ivgalvez__ | what will happen to community kernel | 21:37 |
| ivgalvez__ | ? | 21:37 |
| Pali | ask merlin and freemangordon | 21:38 |
| ivgalvez__ | Pali are you comfortable with the idea of scheduled meetings for CSSU? | 21:38 |
| Pali | freemangordon is maintainer of cssu-kernel | 21:38 |
| Pali | ok | 21:39 |
| ivgalvez__ | could you then please answer to my message on mailing list, we need to bring it to the table | 21:39 |
| ivgalvez__ | and see what the rest of the team thinks | 21:39 |
| ivgalvez__ | anything else related to CSSU guys? | 21:39 |
| nieldk | no, seems like the issue is getting things in a stream there | 21:41 |
| ivgalvez__ | Then if there's nothing else for: Topic 4 (Misc topics.) | 21:41 |
| ivgalvez__ | anything you'd like to comment, I'm in a hurry as usual :-P | 21:42 |
| nieldk | regarding qgill, we would benefit from digging up some more people at Nokia to help in case he is gone later | 21:42 |
| ivgalvez__ | good idea, but apart from kate I don't know who could we contact with | 21:43 |
| ivgalvez__ | I have to leave now guys | 21:43 |
| nieldk | i'll try and dig in to that | 21:43 |
| nieldk | ok, we can end the meting | 21:43 |
| ivgalvez__ | nieldk, great | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez__ | PAli thanks for coming | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez__ | #end Maemo Council Meeting. | 21:44 |
| nieldk | thanks Pali | 21:44 |
| Pali | ok, bye :-) | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez__ | see you | 21:44 |
| nieldk | see you | 21:44 |
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