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| ivgalvez | Woody14619: ping | 20:59 |
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| Woody14619 | Thanks for the wakeup. :) I'm here. | 21:00 |
| ivgalvez | hi | 21:02 |
| Woody14619 | hi. Sorry, am a little distracted right now, and may be spotty this meeting. | 21:03 |
| Woody14619 | Do we have any agenda items beyond old business? | 21:03 |
| ivgalvez | Nothing really new, which I think it's a bit worrying | 21:04 |
| ivgalvez | we are pending from X-Fade for transitioning administration tasks | 21:04 |
| ivgalvez | we need to publish the bylaws to collect community feedback | 21:05 |
| *** lbt is now known as lbt_away | 21:05 | |
| ivgalvez | And I'm worried about qgil's position inside Nokia after the Qt selling | 21:05 |
| Woody14619 | Agreed. We have a lot going on but little progress. But this was somewhat expected with holiday season upon us. | 21:06 |
| Woody14619 | Well, let's start the meeting and see where things go. :S | 21:07 |
| Woody14619 | #start Maemo Council Meeting | 21:07 |
| Woody14619 | Agenda items include: | 21:08 |
| Woody14619 | 1> Update on bylaws and presentation/setup for NFP | 21:08 |
| Woody14619 | 2> Infrestructure migration issues | 21:08 |
| Woody14619 | 3> Preparations for elections | 21:09 |
| Woody14619 | 4> CSSU support and issues | 21:09 |
| Woody14619 | 5> Misc topics. | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez | OK | 21:09 |
| Woody14619 | Topic 1: (Update on bylaws) | 21:09 |
| ivgalvez | ~seen SD69 | 21:10 |
| Woody14619 | This needs input from SD69, but there's been little feedback (And infobot is no longer in channel...) | 21:10 |
| ivgalvez | :-( | 21:11 |
| Woody14619 | While I'm reluctant to, I will attempt to revise the bylaws to address concerns from the mailing list and other input over the weekend. | 21:11 |
| Woody14619 | I really want these up and posted before too long since we need to get this moving. While I'd prefer SD69 do this, he appears to be swamped. He is also on vacation week after next (as am I). | 21:12 |
| ivgalvez | At least we can publish current version and collect feedback | 21:12 |
| Woody14619 | Agreed. Monday I'll post either a slightly revised version, or at minimum the version posted to the ML to the blog and forums, and post it on the wiki. We need this to move. :( | 21:13 |
| Woody14619 | Topic 2: Infrastructure migration | 21:13 |
| Woody14619 | There was no OBS meeting on Monday. Merlin1991 informed me that the did get in contact with X-Fade, but the web interface was not working in some way. | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez | :-( | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez | merlin1991 ping | 21:14 |
| ivgalvez | At this pace we will never get enough permissions for a proper transition | 21:15 |
| ivgalvez | we need to add more people and more services to the pool | 21:16 |
| Woody14619 | So, we need to re-touch with X-Fade and see where things are going. Yes, I worry about that as well. Though worst case a rought transition is at least looking possible. May not be the smoothest, but... | 21:16 |
| ivgalvez | but without even finishing this first step | 21:16 |
| ivgalvez | OK, I can retry by email | 21:16 |
| Woody14619 | Which leads us into Topic 3: Preparations for elections. | 21:16 |
| ivgalvez | but he hasn't answered to my last two messages | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez | OK, topic 3 | 21:17 |
| Woody14619 | Elections for Council (and preferably for first Board in parallel) should go off in September. | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez | I agree that we should handle legal entity and new Council/board together | 21:17 |
| Woody14619 | In order to do that, we need to announce the election THIS month. | 21:17 |
| ivgalvez | considering how difficult is to make every single step | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | but I don't see haow we can announce elections this month | 21:18 |
| Woody14619 | Since election announcment needs to happen at least a month before elections, to allow for nominations and what not. | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | without even starting the bylaws revision | 21:18 |
| ivgalvez | bad timing I'm afraid | 21:19 |
| Woody14619 | Agree, but that's the rules... We don't have to do it tomorrow... but at the latest by the end of month we need to do something if we want elections in September. (Which I think is the best thing to do.) | 21:19 |
| ivgalvez | OK, let's see if we can push the legal entity thing a bit more | 21:20 |
| Woody14619 | For elections to be in Sept (the voting period is usually a week, so that my slide into early Oct for that on it's own), we need to do the annouce before hand. | 21:20 |
| Woody14619 | At latest, I'd say the last week of August. | 21:21 |
| Woody14619 | Realisticly, we'll have a month of nominations and position statements and all that... probably in duplicate, since it's for Council & Board. | 21:21 |
| Woody14619 | But announcing that (probably in the blog on the 27th, at latest) is required. | 21:22 |
| ivgalvez | I'm worried we won't gather people enough.... | 21:22 |
| Woody14619 | My vacation is Aug 16 to 25th, so.. it has to be before or after it, since technically, I need to be the one to announce. | 21:23 |
| Woody14619 | Also, on the election topic: Have we contacted folks from the CC about use of the voting machine? | 21:23 |
| ivgalvez | I would say after that is saner | 21:24 |
| ivgalvez | no we haven't | 21:24 |
| Woody14619 | Agreed... that gives us a little more time to get bylaws and what not setup. | 21:24 |
| Woody14619 | We need to do that asap, so they have time to plan an alternative. I'll draft a mail for that today if possible. | 21:25 |
| Woody14619 | Topic 4: CSSU support/issues | 21:25 |
| ivgalvez | Maybe most sane approach | 21:26 |
| Woody14619 | It appears CSSU is still on the move, and active, despite some internal conflict. | 21:26 |
| ivgalvez | would be for CSSU maintainer to publish minutes from their last meeting | 21:26 |
| ivgalvez | yes, latest comments on IRC are less worriying | 21:26 |
| ivgalvez | but after all, it's a bit unclear what has been decided | 21:27 |
| ivgalvez | as in the meeting there was a bunch of decissions, later discussed | 21:27 |
| ivgalvez | which originated fair because the tone was a bit rude | 21:27 |
| Woody14619 | We need to monitor, but this is really their baby. I'm happy to see things are working themselves out. The less we are called on to moderate things the better. :) | 21:28 |
| ivgalvez | s/fair/fear/ | 21:28 |
| ivgalvez | yes | 21:28 |
| Woody14619 | And finally, Topic 5: Misc | 21:29 |
| Woody14619 | I have had 0 time to do much of anything, yet alone look at voting machine stuff, but hopefully I will have a bit more time during/after vacation. | 21:29 |
| ivgalvez | Nothing from my side there. I have a ton of issues and suggestions to present but only when we gain control over infrastructure | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez | otherwise it'd be useless | 21:30 |
| Woody14619 | Again, I will be on vacation 16-25th. SD will be on vacation 19-25th. | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez | I'll rule them all :-D | 21:30 |
| ivgalvez | kidding... | 21:31 |
| Woody14619 | Other than that... I don't have much more pressing... except this project I need to get done at my paying job. ;) | 21:31 |
| ivgalvez | keep being paid... | 21:31 |
| Woody14619 | :) Ok.. That's a wrap then. | 21:31 |
| Woody14619 | #end Maemo Council Meeting. | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez | I'll retry with X-Fade | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez | cheers | 21:32 |
| Woody14619 | Thanks.. I'll try w/ OBS time frame as a follow up. | 21:32 |
| Woody14619 | I'll also try to get minutes and the CC draft out today. | 21:32 |
| Woody14619 | work, afk: | 21:32 |
| ivgalvez | I've alse remembered that we had to send the questions from the community to Jolla | 21:42 |
| ivgalvez | dunno if SD69 finally did it | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | do you guys have a list anywhere? | 21:43 |
| ivgalvez | I could do it myself, I contacted with Jussi Hurmola | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez | by LinkedIn | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez | Hi Stskeeps | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez | glad to see you here | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez | yes, it was collected by jalyst on TMO | 21:44 |
| Stskeeps | ok, URL? | 21:44 |
| ivgalvez | lemme find it | 21:45 |
| ivgalvez | https://docs.google.com/a/mirada.tv/document/d/1aBs6y-UbmMPQGLT4DIethLxfwfDhh9vx2lOn-v9TphY/edit?pli=1 | 21:46 |
| ivgalvez | can you access it? | 21:46 |
| ivgalvez | some are obviously impossible to answer now | 21:47 |
| ivgalvez | by commercial reasons | 21:47 |
| ivgalvez | for commercial reasons | 21:47 |
| ivgalvez | but these are the questions more demanded by the community | 21:47 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i speak only for myself here but many of those are simply impossible to answer until a device is launched | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | in the end it's up to a person to decide if they want to buy a device on what they see | 21:49 |
| ivgalvez | yes, it's pretty clear | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | some of them are already answered on twitter | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | 'if a community member wanted to start on native 3rd party apps' => use mer, nemo and qml components for harmattan, some changes may be needed in future | 21:49 |
| ivgalvez | anyhow could you please taka a look to it and see if something else can be aswered ? just drop me a email to council@maemo.org and I will comment on TMO | 21:51 |
| ivgalvez | now I have to leave | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:51 |
| ivgalvez | thank you | 21:51 |
| ivgalvez | see you | 21:51 |
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