*** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "courtesy new friendly FN staff: >>This channel has moved to ##maemo. The topic is in violation of freenode policy: https://freenode.net/policies<< No it didn't but EXACTLY THIS is WHY we're looking for a less hostile place. Guess where we moved to" | 14:18 |
DocScrutinizer05 | on topic: FN has server side spam filtering that now may get abused by "the powers" to spy on everything, even PM | 18:14 |
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pcfe | DocScrutinizer05: agreed, topic change only when there is a decision | 12:12 |
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KotCzarny | dont forget to leave a session/bot/topic here explaining what is official #maemo channel | 20:23 |
pcfe | I think it would be useful to adjust the chennel's topic, pointing to where you all want to move (I'm way too lethargic on IRC these days to have an opinion that would count between libera and OFTC and Matrix, I'm on all of them anyeway) | 21:21 |
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infobot | pcfe meant: I think it would be useful to adjust the chennel's topic, pointing to where you all want to move (I'm way too lethargic on IRC these days to have an opinion that would count between libera and OFTC and Matrix, I'm on all of them anyway) | 21:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | with a click-to-join URL in topic and a short explanation and a *:+q | 21:36 |
sunshavi | off topic. | 01:52 |
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Vajb | Oftopic, but does anyone have problems with Lenovo ThinkPad Minidock series 3? I have a problem that docking station loses connection to displays if laptop slightly shifts in dock and even if table shakes a little. Sometimes it reconnects easily, but sometimes I have to reconnect the laptop to the dock several times. This is quite annoying problem and I am wondering if others have faced this and if yes, how did you fix this issue? All | 11:28 |
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sunshavi | this is ouf of topic: any experience with fbterm? | 04:18 |
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xmn | yup sorry if this is of topic | 19:30 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic, flop of the month: https://mobile.twitter.com/mohammadaskar2/status/1301263551638761477 | 15:32 |
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sixwheeledbeast | people do things like pack the sim or put springs on the modem chips. TMO is the best place to look for thread on the topic. BTW I am not recommending any of the methods above i have never had the issue consistently (yet) | 23:48 |
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buZz | https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=104889 | 15:29 |
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sixwheeledbeast | kind of off topic but does anyone know if playstation DS4 controller TRRS is OMTP or CTIA | 21:21 |
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Oksanaa | Please vote for stable Maemo on Fxtec Pro1! https://community.fxtec.com/topic/2668-using-the-pro1-as-a-daily-device-what-hinders-you/ <--- I have registered just to participate in the poll | 05:29 |
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brolin_empey | Or why I am still using an x86-32 OS on an x86-64 computer or other irrelevant and off-topic subjects. | 16:44 |
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gry | to be fair thats a bit offtopic here, i would be a bit more interested in ways to get pmwiki on a nokia device | 00:36 |
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gry | do we have an offtopic channel somewhere which is not logged publicly? | 00:38 |
sixwheeledbeast | Indeed I could see fake AI bots leaning the conversation on topics I believe that goes on in other platforms | 12:55 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | and after Nokia defeated my question about bootloader in Meego inception meeting ("The bootloader is not even a topic for us") and then betrayed community with a tivoized-by-aegis "secure-bootloader" N9 design, I'm *very very* skeptical about all those "we care about our customers, freedom and security" marketing BS-bingo companies | 17:29 |
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sixwheeledbeast | That's fine but I recall the topic started by asking if it was repairable? | 16:42 |
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brolin_empey | joga: I finally opened your link. That forum topic seems outdated. The original poster says viewing a display with a fluorescent backlight is problematic for them. That means they can use an LCD with an LED backlight; they do not need a plasma display. | 16:16 |
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Wikiwide | Python 3 would also be nice to have, but that's a different topic. | 07:48 |
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brolin_empey | In closer to on-topic news, apparently Rogers Communication(s)/Rogers Wireless, who, as far as I know, owns the only GSM network in Canada with national coverage, plans to shut down their GSM/GPRS network in Canada in 2020, which may mean that the Nokia N900 will no longer be able to have cellular connectivity in Canada with the integrated cellular modem beginning in 2021 unless the integrated cellular modem of the N900 can still use the Rogers UMTS/HSPA (or | 12:14 |
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CcxWrk | Anyway, isn't this quite far from being on topic? :] | 13:09 |
brolin_empey | Regarding the discussion being off-topic, I dislike the hardware channel(s) I visited on freenode. Well, strictly speaking, I dislike some of the persons with whom I interacted in those channels, not the channel itself. The persons in this channel seem to be more knowledgeable. The ##hardware and similar channels move way too quickly with lots of discussion about subjects of little relevance and interest to me, such as the latest and greatest desktop | 13:35 |
mp107 | Hi, Referring to browsing the Web on older devices topic recently I came across some interesting idea of rendering the whole website on remote device and proxy to the old device only website screenshot (with "clickable" links on top of image): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp/ | 13:50 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic: http://www.techamok.com/?pid=warnings-of-world-wide-worm-attacks-are-the-real-deal-20877 | 12:53 |
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KotCzarny | if you ever again complain about offtopic, remember this date | 11:56 |
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infobot | BZFlag => 1, Debian => 1, DebianExtra => 1, Dict => 1, Exchange => 1, Factoids => 1, HTTPDtype => 1, Kernel => 1, Math => 1, Plug => 1, Quote => 1, RootWarn => 1, Rss => 1, Search => 1, Topic => 1, Units => 1, Uptime => 1, UserInfo => 1, Weather => 1, Zippy => 1, addressCharacter => ~, allowConv => 1, allowTelling => 1, botmail => 1, case => 1 | 13:18 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | on topic: alias man=':(){ [ "sed" == "$1" ]||{ /usr/bin/man $*;return; }; less -f <(/usr/bin/man sed) <(wget http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt -q -O -); };:' | 22:04 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | headline looks to be on topic, didn't check at all: https://nexbridge.co.uk/what-is-the-difference-between-g711-g729-and-gsm-and-why-does-the-codec-matter/ | 10:52 |
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brolin_empey | bleb: I see that you are already on #symbian . Is that channel dead? I see that the topic was last changed in 2008. :-D | 20:15 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | and no way I'm going to get any closer than one continent apart from starting discussion about this topic again now | 08:39 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: sorry, no idea. Isn't sicelo one of council? or is board even sth different than council? no idea, I only know the wiki page as linked in topic hasn't seen updates since afes | 03:15 |
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Kabouik_ | To be honest I didn't even think SSL should be debated, I believe it's a security standard and should not be a question when a site gathers so many people. But I am not an admin, nor a professional in this topic, I might be wrong. | 17:19 |
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brolin_empey | I wonder why this topic was silently locked over a decade after it began? (fail) | 12:27 |
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brolin_empey | Actually, this topic may have been locked only nine years after it began. | 12:29 |
brolin_empey | KotCzarny: I shared the link about the mSATA in Latitude X1 because I did not know of anyone using an mSATA drive in a Latitude X1 before I revisited that forum topic for the first time in years to see if anyone had replied since I last visited the topic. I did not mean that using mSATA in a Latitude X1 was new, only that that was the first time I knew of someone using it. Also, I thought the ThinkPad X40 has a fan? | 22:38 |
KotCzarny | bit offtopic and old, but fun: https://pierrekim.github.io/blog/2016-02-16-why-i-stopped-using-startssl-because-of-qihoo-360.html | 13:35 |
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Enrico_M_RX-51 | Other topic: I tried a couple of youtube clients, but they don't work. Is there anything working nowadays? | 01:37 |
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Vajb | Offtopic. I need hosting solution for one school project. Are there any that you would recommend? | 16:40 |
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Enrico_Menotti | So I looked for this topic, and found https://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP. | 13:49 |
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sixwheeledbeast | In other news ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=139950 | 02:13 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic: https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/01/08/cosmo-communicator-2-in-1-smartphone-computer-android-9-linux/ | 16:23 |
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KotCzarny | a bit offtopic, what triggers gsm network to send internet/mms configuration? | 15:40 |
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KotCzarny | also, offtopic. | 12:01 |
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brolin_empey | Yes, it is off-topic but is there a channel specifically focused on using a desktop computer with non-volatile main memory or at least where my question is on-topic? I dislike the Windows channels on freenode and my question is about both hardware and software, not only software. | 12:10 |
sixwheeledbeast^ | As for privacy topic i just simply refuse to use something if they a Privacy Policy i don't like. | 12:01 |
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brolin_empey | The topic of this channel used to direct N9/Harmattan questions to a different channel but someone (DocScrutinizer05?) recently removed this part from the topic. | 08:00 |
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*** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | "firmware" see ~lf (or ~tabletsdev ~combined ~emmc ~flasher) sdk: ~sb | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_maemo/latest.log.html | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet" | 20:31 |
fishbulb | the topic suggests it | 20:56 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic, i'm slowly starting to love my espressobin | 22:02 |
KotCzarny | otherwise see topic for channel logs | 15:13 |
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brolin_empey | Anyway, as an end to off-topic vehicle discussion, I recently saw a concrete pumping truck with six axles, all close together, which reminded me of sixwheeledbeast^. | 10:31 |
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Vajb | yeah I did some digging of a topic | 23:19 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic: http://cellar.org/iotd.php?threadid=33798 o.O | 21:00 |
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sicelo | anyway, see /topic | 22:10 |
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sicelo | if you follow what's in /topic, you'll be fine | 22:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | GRR /topic ##ubnt: EdgeRouter 1.10.7 | 04:25 |
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sicelo | ok. solved/(not) ... this router does 6rd, and tunnelbroker doesn't support that, at least if the answer in https://forums.he.net/index.php?topic=3764.0 is correct | 23:16 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | isn't https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2345 awesome? | 01:22 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2345 | 20:07 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | but the question is: what do you want to *achieve*? (seems to be a recurring topic in here lately ;-D >>what do you want to achieve, in detail?' like, you could show a 10s video clip without comment and everybody understands what it DOES)<< No "save more power" / "streamline user experience" / "simplify contribution" abstract goals | 22:59 |
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KotCzarny | refer to wiki pages about the topic, i havent used it | 13:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | >><sixwheeledbeast> I am in the middle of 3 towers,...<< see my "GSM positioning, revisited (again)" atricles/posts on openmoko ML on that very topic | 17:56 |
Wizzup | 04:22 -!- naos26 [~naos@117.red-79-151-178.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] | 16:06 |
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Hurrian | a bit off topic, but I swapped fans on my UPS for slower, quieter models, and now it's throwing a fan fault thanks to probably a current sensing circuit. | 15:03 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | but as skilled and savvy as our sysops and admins usually are, they seem to fail epically on this particular topic | 22:46 |
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brolin_empey | KotCzarny: As Maxdamantus said, GRUB cannot boot all optical disc image files (.iso files). I think there used to be and maybe still is a note about this in the topic of the GRUB channel on freenode. I know that the USB ports on the ThinkPad X40 of sicelo are broken. That is why I said “If you have a computer that can (directly) boot from USB”. I know that sicelo lives in Africa. I know that the ThinkPad X40 uses a 1.8-inch PATA HDD/SSD because we | 10:26 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | who represented China in UN is another highly intriguing topic | 16:29 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | off topic: please sign https://www.change.org/p/european-parliament-stop-the-censorship-machinery-save-the-internet?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition - read https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/ for more context. | 18:56 |
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brolin_empey | https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=103935 | 08:20 |
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Juesto | ugh, what a dumb topic | 01:59 |
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brolin_empey | In on-topic news, I am actually using my Nokia N900 again but only because I want a composite video output because I want to photograph a CRT television receiver that I want to give away; I want to show the television receiver in actual use instead of only displaying static/noise or an image generated by the computer (microcontroller) in the television receiver. | 08:13 |
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Vajb | interesting topic. Is it on dev or testing repo? ;) | 15:17 |
KotCzarny | offtopic but..: https://digitalsynopsis.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/css-puns-web-design-funny-jokes-33.jpg | 14:18 |
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brolin_empey | Off-topic but I dislike the ##windows* channels on freenode but the persons in this channel are intelligent and knowledgeable: Can anyone else load https://www.youtube.com/ in Internet Explorer 11 on Windows 10? I get an error page from IE that says I should enable TLS 1.0 , 1.1 , and 1.2 in Advanced settings and try connecting again but all three of these protocols were already enabled when I opened the Advanced settings. 0_o Has Google/YouTube dropped | 07:31 |
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Vajb | i would guess it is the topic of next course. They mentioned version control, when we asked a tool for it, but also added that it is too heavy for this project | 11:17 |
Vajb | interesting topic. I have done quite alot of woodwork, but never that kind of thing. | 12:40 |
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sixwheeledbeast | shame I missed out on the maps topic earlier, lol | 01:23 |
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infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 13:39 |
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Maxdamantus | where people just share patches to topic-specific mailing lists, and maintainers apply them to their branches, which are eventually merged higher up. | 00:52 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | this is a topic where I got NFC | 17:19 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | ((mindset of those applauding)) worst part in it: those who applaud the loudest are those that have the last clue about the topic. When you don't understand what an init system does and how init works, most likely not even have any skills to write a shellscript, then sure you will happily eat the BS about "systemd unit files simpler than init scripts" | 00:16 |
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infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: ((mindset of those applauding)) worst part in it: those who applaud the loudest are those that have the least clue about the topic. When you don't understand what an init system does and how init works, most likely not even have any skills to write a shel... | 00:17 |
Oksanaa | Lantizia : I apologise for my personal almost-religious anti-systemd-ish-ness [I am similarly stubborn about many topics], but if big Linux kernel becomes a problem, I will find a micro-kernel (like Minix) to swtich to, instead of saying "oh, kernel is huge and bloated, let's have init-systemd which | 01:28 |
KotCzarny | that topic was discussed on the channel few times, it's not trivial because higher openssl versions aren't compatible with old apps | 17:48 |
DocScrutinizer05 | see? we solved that "mention version" issue by a new channel and /topic : N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | 01:50 |
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KotCzarny | offtopic, anyone knows the reason or easy fix why chroot'ed commands fail on older kernel? (generic linux) | 20:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | /topic | 07:06 |
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MartiniMoe | hi there! :) im looking for firmware and flasher (for linux) for my n900. sadly i dont get the hint in the topic >_> could anyone help me? | 17:59 |
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Juesto | MartiniMoe: you type what does the topic says | 18:00 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I just tried to give some reference where unix might surprise users that are familiar with the way windows works, the topic was unix env vars though | 02:48 |
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valerius | Yes, we have gone into offtopic, I agree ;) | 03:37 |
KotCzarny | see topic for public logs | 18:58 |
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KotCzarny | slightly on-topic, oscp is designed to be primarily used with kb alone (but mouse/touch is also nice) | 02:48 |
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infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 05:24 |
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