CatButts | Ioanai7, browsers are overrated, the web sucks | 15:43 |
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bencoh | tbh I've been staying on old firefox because of vimperrator | 16:11 |
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Kabouik_ | Erratum, 15000 fewers visits on my website. :> By the way, not sure what happened on Nov. 29th, but it's great to see that the record was so recently. Probably a spambot wave though, I reckon. | 17:15 |
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freemangordon | enyc: thumb errata workaround was upstreamed long time ago, so yes. | 14:47 |
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sixwheeledbeast | to quote fmg <<well, I guess n900 is safe from at least Variant1 with KP and modern kernels, as because of thumb errata BTB is flushed on every context switch.>> | 13:41 |
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freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: well, I guess n900 is safe from at least Variant1 with KP and modern kernels, as because of thumb errata BTB is flushed on every context switch. | 03:11 |
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KotCzarny | it isnt, according to fmg it's errata prevents it | 17:47 |
KotCzarny | with KP and modern kernels, as because of thumb errata BTB is flushed on every context switch. | 17:49 |
bencoh | 17:49 < KotCzarny> with KP and modern kernels, as because of thumb errata BTB is flushed on every context switch. | 18:06 |
bencoh | yay for ARM erratas :D | 18:06 |
CatButts | you mean the two erratas in the wiki that require specially patched kernel? | 14:21 |
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bencoh | and the first errata fix is present in mainline/vanilla | 14:26 |
infobot | rumour has it, apt-get is the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install synaptic for a gui client, or the shiznit, or see apt-cache, or ask me ... | 01:36 |
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timeless | https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata | 23:43 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | to reduce color aberration etc | 21:43 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration | 22:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration#/media/File:Lens6b-en.svg achromatic doublet - can't be done that way with a liquid lens for the convex part since the concave part needs matching properties | 22:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ooh kernel errata, wtf is that even? | 20:50 |
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sicelo- | faulty flex definitely does cause non-working (or erratic) status LED .. my 2nd N900 has that | 11:53 |
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freemangordon | we can workaround a bit by depending on kernel-feature-errata-whateveritwas, but then you will pull a whole new kernel if you install from humb repo | 22:48 |
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Pali | so we take current debian armhf port with thumb2 enabled binaries and it can run on n900 without any problems like hw errata segfaults? | 19:01 |
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KotCzarny | buzz, tinfoil is overrated, 2cm wall of solid metal. | 15:23 |
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Juest | and theres a serious glitch where applying a theme causes the gui to work erratically and i cant change the theme again, that personalization ui stops working somewhat | 19:46 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | hkps is overrated | 17:42 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | even way more than https is overrated for public websites | 17:43 |
bencoh | reading messages from others? naah, that's overrated | 12:48 |
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KotCzarny | ceene: pah, voice is overrated | 20:52 |
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Sicelo | i don't know if that sgx_misr process was running erratically, as i was not actively using device | 20:00 |
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luf_ | wtf what is sb-thumb-errata-provider for? | 01:44 |
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luf_ | just the errata in provides ;) | 02:05 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and would explain a lot of randomly occurring erratic behavior in all dbus systems | 18:37 |
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Sicelo009N | or that 2.6.28 has the thumb errata patches? | 00:03 |
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Pali | and then from rx51 specific board hook (already have one for emmc and one for thumb2 errata) we should be able to read them and store back to /proc/atags | 11:44 |
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totalizator | protectirs are overrated | 19:01 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | there's no sluggyness without OC. OC is extremely overrated. Sluggishness is caused by short-of-RAM and swap | 04:25 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | yes, thumb siErr could cause basically all sorts of erratic behavior | 22:53 |
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bencoh | ARM errata 430973 | 22:59 |
Sicelo | kernel ... some errata stuff on the OMAP | 13:11 |
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Entertained | calibration is overrated | 10:08 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | drathir: dirty contacts act erratically and pretty much on random | 01:16 |
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sixwheeledbeast | ecc2g: uptime is underrated. If you "have" to reboot there is something wrong somewhere. | 20:58 |
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ShadowJK | It has errata workarounds to make hf mostly work | 00:39 |
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sixwheeledbeast | If you install CSSU-thumb then KP will be upgraded to the latest, due to depending on errata workaround. | 19:08 |
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hurrian | if that was the case, freemangordon wouldn't have to have found the TrustZone control bits to apply the ARM-Thumb errata patch ;) | 15:27 |
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merlin1991 | freemangordon made a new version, because installing thumb on a non errata fixed kernel blows up in your face | 18:40 |
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bencoh | brains are overrated anyway | 23:07 |
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freemangordon | http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ARM_ERRATA_430973.html | 23:42 |
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sixwheeledbeast | Yes. CSSU-Thumb will need a kernel with errata workaround. | 18:55 |
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ssvb | freemangordon: in any case, I remember that the errata list from arm included the recommendations to patch the linker, and the preliminary patches were available at the time | 20:34 |
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hbib | my understanding of thumb was that it frees RAM, but needs a little longer to execute a command because of the correction mechanisms for the ARM Erratas | 10:15 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | also SR is massively overrated | 18:21 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | short brownouts can cause quite random erratic behaviour of all components of a system | 14:06 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | dunno, sidetone is overrated | 08:31 |
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psycho_oreos | I'm gonna grab it from skeiron for now, looking into that thumb2 errata. There's two bugfixes I guess which may need to be compiled along with any packages to be made with scratchbox VM | 12:32 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | well, it just means you can't disable that function, which makes it a tiny bit more likely to be the culprit for the erratic behaviour you observe | 23:56 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | one is a cheesy but easily available and tiny logilink "va0002" that I bought ages ago, the other two are terratec based on E4000 tuner which I ordered a 2 weeks ago at fleabay | 18:05 |
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korhojoa | http://www.amazon.de/Terratec-ran-T-Stick-DVB-T-schwarz/dp/B007EB995U/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3OSPSMZV7DOD8 ? | 18:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | for the va0002 you *need* parameter -g40 in rtl_fm, for terratec this very option is detrimental | 18:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tbh the terratec is a scam, it doesn't even have the IR RX mounted, and consequently comes without any IR-remote | 18:14 |
GeneralAntilles | Overrated, get yourself a BRZ or something. | 04:27 |
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ShadowJK | My guess would be that it's a newer revision and has many hw errata fixed | 22:13 |
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ShadowJK | Part of the reason nobody wants to deal with the thumb errata in N900's 3430, is that newer 3430 had that issue fixed and was widely available on beagleboards | 22:14 |
DocScrutinizer05 | this cheesy one has fc0013, the ordered ones (terratec Tstick) are E4000 | 00:26 |
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Lava_Croft | nethack is overrated like halflife | 17:07 |
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Lava_Croft | hl series must be the most overrated games of all time, together with final fantasy series | 17:08 |
Pali | freemangordon: look at last mail about rx51 thumb errata | 11:04 |
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psycho_oreos | https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/10/387 -- Almost a month ago, from Dave in re: RX-51 thumb errata. | 12:26 |
freemangordon | DrCode: you'll need ATM thumb errata workaround enabled in the kernel | 18:23 |
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kerio | LjL: the thumb errata workaround is in kernel-power since 50, iirc | 19:30 |
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kerio | to use that instruction set, however, you need a workaround in the kernel for a silicon errata | 11:37 |
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brolin_empey | kerio: Is errata singular? Or is errata the plural form of erratum? | 11:43 |
freemangordon | Pali: a nit - why is +#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_ERRATA_430973 inside the if (omap_type() == OMAP2_DEVICE_TYPE_SEC) { ? | 14:39 |
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Pali | after errata patch will be accepted in mainline I will send next patches | 14:43 |
Pali | freemangordon: I sent new version of ARM errata 430973 workaround patches to LKML (CC to you) | 16:05 |
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rikanee | DocScrutinizer05: pretty sure it's a hw errata | 12:40 |
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r00t^home | (getting erratic battery status display is no surprise when switching batteries all the time) | 04:52 |
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LinuxCode | I think that is overrated | 14:16 |
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divVerent | If you have kernel-power v51r1 or above, no custom kernel will be installed, as needed errata workaround is included in kernel-power v51r1 (and above) | 21:49 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | the whole thing behaves rather erratic at times | 13:21 |
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kerio | ARM errata 430973 and ARM errata 657417 | 20:20 |
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Cas | Is it possible to append "kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround[armel]" to debian control file Depends only if building thumb? | 21:11 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | meh, sleep is overrated anyway | 06:51 |
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wmarone__ | and some early revs had critical errata | 07:54 |
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freemangordon | AMD and phenom, intel and pentium fdiv bug, TI and all ARM erratas | 00:22 |
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infobot | [apt-get] the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install synaptic for a gui client, or the shiznit, or see apt-cache, or ask me about apt-howto | 20:54 |
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freemangordon | Pali: this is going political, what now? (errata patch) | 13:52 |
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ampharos | and really, gnome 2 is incredibly overrated | 12:36 |
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Macer | x11 is overrated tho | 12:06 |
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kerio | oh, obvious warning: if you're running cssu-thumb, kernels without the errata fix are worthless | 19:29 |
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WizardNumberNext | kerio: I know - I read it somewhere and even have some idea why I need errata, but do not remember exactly | 19:30 |
DocScrutinizer05 | sleep is overrated | 00:27 |
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kerio | sleep is overrated until you're tired ;) | 00:27 |
freemangordon | Sc0rpius, kerio: it is perfectly possible that KCSSU(i.e. KP) impacts the speed somehow. Or errata workarounds. or ... NFC what :D | 00:03 |
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RST38h | Doc <== exagerrating | 15:05 |
infobot | i guess apt-get is the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install synaptic for a gui client, or the shiznit, or see apt-cache, or ask me about ... | 05:12 |
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freemangordon | yes, it MUST be run on cssu-thumb, because of the ARM erratas | 07:54 |
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kerio | meh, phone calls are overrated :P | 01:05 |
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wirr | DocScrutinizer05, ShadowJK: I assume you're aware of the TI OMAP errata document of 2010? There's something bout "MMC: Multiple Block Read Operation Issue" | 02:00 |
Pali | freemangordon, can you check if "kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround" is good dependency? | 22:45 |
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freemangordon | well, usually I use "kernel-feature-errata-430973-workaround[armel]" | 22:47 |
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