| DocScrutinizer05 | up to further hw platform examination if it also works as wireless (android) firmware flasher right away, or if they somehow have an additional level of write protection for the firmware storage | 00:00 |
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| NeKit | <s>can this be used to install Linux on BlackBerry keyboard devices?</s> | 00:00 |
| __Chris | DocScrutinizer05: See what questions you get now? :-) | 00:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 00:02 |
| * __Chris giggles. | 00:03 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | netkat: in theory for sure. Practically I have no idea | 00:03 |
| __Chris | Maybe we can ask about on the FB-page of broadcom.... If they have something like that. ^^ | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NeKit: damn | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my tab completion fails on n vs N here | 00:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >> let’s repeat the same experiment on a Galaxy S7 Edge, which is based on Samsung’s Exynos 8890 SoC. [...] Once again we are able to DMA freely into the kernel (bypassing RKP’s protection along the way)! It seems that both Samsung’s Exynos 8890 SoC and Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 810 either lack SMMUs or fail to utilise them<< | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (SMMU == IOMMU) | 00:14 |
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| * blap ponders | 00:21 | |
| blap | that's a horrible thing | 00:21 |
| blap | that's like economics departments teaching lies to students | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 00:24 |
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| blap | nobody saying anything about phones | 00:31 |
| blap | the terrible security | 00:31 |
| Wizzup | in 74 | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | oops. | 00:32 |
| __Chris | People only want to have some cloud, g00gle, bling-bling-flat-design for showing ads and some curvy displays it seems. | 00:37 |
| __Chris | OLEDs which get yellow and burned in in 2 years of usage too. | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, you're aware that SMS_two-factor-auth is already deprecated? Now think about NFC payment | 00:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't need any far fetched scenario like hacking the smartphone navi to lure digital retards and their cars into dark side streets to rob all they got | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I am pretty sure we will see all of that and more | 00:42 |
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| blap | i have nothing to say in contradiction | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not trying to feature FUD, just I'm pretty sure that "People only want to have some cloud, g00gle, bling-bling-flat-design..." of those people will and already does change drastically, considering what we're heading at | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bling-bling-flat-design..." '+attitude' of | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | soon old good style phones like N900 and even feature phones will be as useful and popular as torches, in a world where batteries for flashlights are expensive and explosive and hard to find | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I think the market for a smartphone designed according to best practice regarding security and privacy like the Neo900 is better than ever | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm absolutely sure the electronics engineers who desined all that new rogue and vulnerable stuff are either well aware but ignorant of the design flaws / compromises they chosen for sake of lower costs, or they are incredibly incompetent | 01:19 |
| __Chris | DocScrutinizer05: It was meant more sarcastic. No worries. | 01:23 |
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| __Chris | DocScrutinizer05: It's not only the smartphone which has problems. PCs too: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/05/intels-management-engine-security-hazard-and-users-need-way-disable-it | 03:17 |
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| Wikiwide | How is GAM? | 06:15 |
| Wikiwide | /me was asleep at 03:30 at night https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:78071 | 06:18 |
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| brolin_empey | KotCzarny: See the bottom of this page by Jax in Vancouver: | 07:42 |
| brolin_empey | http://www.jax184.com/computers.html | 07:42 |
| brolin_empey | Apparently Jax has a 5.25-inch flexible disc drive connected to an ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 motherboard (LGA1155), which is the only model of post-LGA775 motherboard I have ever seen that still has a flexible disc drive connector. This means that I can still use a 5.25-inch flexible disc drive on a post-Core-2-era computer. However, compared to my favourite model of LGA775 motherboard (Asus P5E-VM DO), the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 is full-size ATX instead of | 07:42 |
| brolin_empey | microATX, uses uEFI instead of BIOS (AMI BIOS 8), lacks PATA and parallel port, uses a non-Intel/third-party (Broadcom) Ethernet controller, and has only one instead of two PS/2 connectors. However, the greatest advantage of this LGA1155 motherboard over my favourite LGA775 motherboard is probably that this LGA1155 motherboard supports 4 times as much main memory (32 GiB) as the LGA775 motherboard (8 GiB). This LGA1155 motherboard has enough parallel PCI | 07:42 |
| brolin_empey | and PCI Express slots that I could probably add what I lose by upgrading from the LGA775 motherboard (parallel port, PATA host controller, Intel Gigabit Ethernet controller) but have 32 GiB of main memory in a computer that can still use a 5.25-inch flexible disc drive and possibly even still boot from a 5.25-inch flexible disc drive? | 07:42 |
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| KotCzarny | brolin_empey: depends on bios | 08:46 |
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| brolin_empey | KotCzarny: s/bios/firmware/ ? | 08:59 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 09:03 |
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| blap | morning | 09:29 |
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| Wikiwide | Test | 09:55 |
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| Wikiwide | Weird... | 14:18 |
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| bencoh | well ... https://security.googleblog.com/2017/10/behind-masq-yet-more-dns-and-dhcp.html | 16:29 |
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| bencoh | I haven't checked how much maemo is impacted, but seems worth reading | 16:29 |
| bencoh | I don't really care about DoS/leak, but RCE is ugly | 16:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: EEEK | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | CSSU high prio ticket | 17:12 |
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| m14ed | anyone in here alive to answer a quick question about nokia n900 and clues to reach the radio player ? | 22:21 |
| KotCzarny | install radio app? | 22:21 |
| m14ed | no sir, how to edit the list that is on it | 22:22 |
| blap | i saw someone made a case for n900 consisting of 3 batteries | 22:23 |
| blap | a genius | 22:23 |
| m14ed | this thing is a awsome little brick/cube | 22:23 |
| KotCzarny | m14ed: i suspect i misunderstood your question then. (and next comment) | 22:23 |
| m14ed | the forums a tons of print and little info for a NEWB like me | 22:24 |
| m14ed | http://maemo.org | 22:24 |
| m14ed | and suck | 22:24 |
| m14ed | *such | 22:24 |
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| m14ed | a young lad sold it to me cheaply - because he lost interest in it | 22:25 |
| m14ed | ok , thank you for your attention at least | 22:27 |
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| sicelo | mmm | 22:28 |
| KotCzarny | m14ed: talk.maemo.org and wiki.maemo.org are your best friends | 22:28 |
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| KotCzarny | oh | 22:30 |
| blap | maybe my client should have a script to ignore people for 2 hours after joining | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | those kids dont know irc netiquette :/ | 22:30 |
| blap | yeah well i'm breaking it too | 22:31 |
| blap | cause i made a gimp to unicode graphics exporter | 22:31 |
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| blap | much lol, much troll | 22:31 |
| blap | wb NeKit ! | 22:31 |
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| blap | nekit is the best person ever | 22:32 |
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