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| FalconSpys | DocScrutinizer05: My HAM catalog has the maemo repo with Fremantle 1.2 as the distribution and catalog of free/non-free (still not home with the device in front of me..going by memory) | 00:23 |
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| FalconSpys | I tried the OTA update using the *#0000# but it didnt bring up device manager | 00:23 |
| FalconSpys | I tried installing the CSSU from the wiki but when I get to the update all packages part it says I need to hook my phone up to my PC in PC Suite Mode and running the Nokia PC Suite | 00:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Ah you have your device, what version does it say Settings > About | 00:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | PC suite basically means there's an issue installing packages from the repos. | 00:26 |
| FalconSpys | sixwheeledbeast^: I dont have my device infront of me. I said this was all based on memory | 00:31 |
| FalconSpys | Do I need to switch my repo distribution to fremantle 1.3? | 00:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ok, no. you will likely need change the repos completely | 00:32 |
| FalconSpys | To what? I had extras, extras-dev, and extras-testing | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FalconSpys: you need to fix your catalogs, see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia repos are no more | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | extras* are maemo repos, not nokia base repos. And actually it's strongly deprecated to have extras-devel and extras-testing enabled | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they are mutually exclusive, and should only get enabled for installing a particular package that's not available (in the wanted version) in maemo-extras | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then disable them immedaitely after you installed that one package. NEVER keep them active while doing a generic update | 00:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you inspect the "catalogs" in HAM, you'll notice the Nokia and Nokia-SSU repos are tagged as defect | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why your update fails | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're licky though, fixing catalogs is just two clicks in maemo browser away ;-) just go to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ and follow the instructions there, I.E. click 'recommended.install' | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lucky* | 00:48 |
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| FalconSpys | Ill give it a shot when home with the device. Thanks DocScrutinizer05 :) I am hoping that fixes the issue. As I said spent the past 4 or 5 nights trying to flash firmware / get Pali's U-boot installed | 01:04 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | As I say check what version your on and whats installed first. | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw I never heard about OTA update triggered by dialing *#0000# | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo is not centered around phone function, it mostly works like a normal desktop debian linux | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you do pretty much all updates on the device, via HAM or sometimes via apt | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | flashing only needed to recover an unbootable device, basically | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or for a complete reset | 01:30 |
| FalconSpys | DocScrutinizer05: I remember seeing some site that said I can trigger it by dialing those keys. Probably just some BS website | 01:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | first check what OS version you got as sixwheeledbeast^ recommends. See "settings" -> "About...". Then fix your catalogs as suggested by me. Then go to HAM and check for updates, possibly there will be a few | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make sure extras.testing and extras-devel are disabled before you check. Then inszall all the available updates which should get you to PR1.3 if you're not there already. Then follow the instruction on CSSU website to get a lot more of important updates | 01:54 |
| FalconSpys | Sounds good! Ill give it a shot in about 3 hours :) | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then you can install Pali's uBoot | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also via HAM, or via apt-get | 01:55 |
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| FalconSpy | so DocScrutinizer05 / sixwheeledbeast^ Version 10.2010.19-1 | 09:53 |
| FalconSpy | Followed the instructions you gave me DocScrutinizer05 with the catalog. All I see in my updates is the Community SSU package | 09:56 |
| Juesto | hmm | 10:15 |
| FalconSpy | Do I need to restart the phone first or should stuff just immediately show in HAM under update? | 10:17 |
| FalconSpy | Nope that didnt do it | 10:27 |
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| FalconSpy | http://mirrors.muarf.org/maemo/ would it be the nokia-ssu install one? | 10:36 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 10:36 |
| infobot | hmm... maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 10:36 |
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| FalconSpy | Well I have extras repo | 10:41 |
| FalconSpy | Im trying to upgrade from PR 1.2 to PR 1.3 but nothing I am finding is working | 10:42 |
| Juesto | Correctly set up? | 10:42 |
| FalconSpy | What do you define as correctly setup? I followed the instructions by DocScrutinizer05 for http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ | 10:43 |
| FalconSpy | disabled all catalogs but the ones it installed | 10:43 |
| FalconSpy | Let me try the apt-get after adding catalog | 11:05 |
| FalconSpy | 1010 updates... | 11:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | FalconSpy you still about | 11:22 |
| FalconSpy | yep | 11:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | how are you doing | 11:23 |
| FalconSpy | well I followed the link DocScrutinizer05 put in | 11:23 |
| FalconSpy | Nothing was showing via HAM for downloads/updates | 11:23 |
| FalconSpy | Did a apt-get update and upgrade and its doing about 1000 upgrades | 11:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | First thing with Maemo is never update with the CLI, unless you know what your doing. It was never designed for that | 11:24 |
| FalconSpy | So apt-get update / upgrade is wrong to do? | 11:25 |
| FalconSpy | Nothing was showing in HAM at all | 11:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | HAM need refreshing and with stock HAM it can take 24 hours to display automagically | 11:26 |
| FalconSpy | I refreshed, checked the logs | 11:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Or you refresh manually and it takes upto 30 minutes or so. | 11:26 |
| FalconSpy | Well I refreshed manually...nothing showd | 11:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~HAM | 11:26 |
| infobot | methinks ham is Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 11:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | yay infobots back | 11:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~wb | 11:27 |
| infobot | thx | 11:27 |
| FalconSpy | I hit refresh about 10 times... | 11:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~botsnack | 11:27 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast^: :) | 11:27 |
| FalconSpy | well I cancelled the apt-get upgrade.. | 11:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | FalconSpy: Was the device clear from old software. | 11:28 |
| FalconSpy | I would imagine so? It was a stock device that I bought from Amazon | 11:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Or did it have a load of stuff on from the previous user | 11:29 |
| FalconSpy | well ebay | 11:29 |
| FalconSpy | Looks like it was wiped | 11:29 |
| FalconSpy | before i got it | 11:29 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | Right, personally my next step would be trying to get your flasher working and flash PR1.3.x on to it | 11:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | What desktops do you have available? | 11:31 |
| FalconSpy | Windows 10, Win 8.1, Mac OSX Yosemite | 11:32 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | Ok well I have used Win7/6 and Ubuntu. Do you have the flasher installed on all of them? | 11:35 |
| FalconSpy | on Windows 10 and Mac yes | 11:36 |
| FalconSpy | Flasher would just sit at awaiting suitable usb device even though the Windows 10 sees it in update mode | 11:37 |
| FalconSpy | even after running flasher then plugging it in | 11:37 |
| FalconSpy | Mac doesnt see it at all as far as I know | 11:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Lets try Win10 then. Power down your device. Use stock Nokia USB lead in a rear USB port | 11:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Best to use a port with no hubs inbetween or the like. | 11:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Do you have PR1.3 FW ready and the Emmc image ready? | 11:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~pr1.3.1 | 11:40 |
| infobot | [combined] the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/, or http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/ | 11:40 |
| FalconSpy | I dont think I have either of those. Or at least not the correct ones | 11:40 |
| FalconSpy | downloading it now | 11:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | the last link has root image | 11:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | the community is not permitted to redistribute the image when Nokia disappeared. The ones found in the community are personal copies, normally with checksums | 11:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~flasher | 11:44 |
| infobot | refer ~flashing; http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz; list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 11:44 |
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| FalconSpy | alright got both | 11:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | So you have flasher 3.5 installed to Win10, and both images to flash | 11:47 |
| FalconSpy | Only saw 1 .bin file? | 11:49 |
| FalconSpy | only link that worked was http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/ with 1 .bin | 11:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Yer that's just the rootfs image. | 11:50 |
| FalconSpy | idk what other image you are referring to then | 11:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Lets start with that to establish the flasher is working | 11:51 |
| FalconSpy | sure | 11:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | We need to follow the flashing instructions from here on the page http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#N900_2 | 11:52 |
| FalconSpy | alright | 11:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Have you used that guide before? | 11:56 |
| FalconSpy | ive attempted to follow the guide before | 11:58 |
| FalconSpy | Suitable USB device not found, waiting | 11:58 |
| FalconSpy | Usual message I see | 11:58 |
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| FalconSpy | Held U plugged device in | 11:59 |
| FalconSpy | shows usb icon top right | 11:59 |
| FalconSpy | Still shows that message | 11:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ok, I assume 64 bit have you tried any of the 64 bit workarounds? | 12:00 |
| FalconSpy | im not aware of any 64 bit work arounds | 12:01 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | From Win7 onwards the drivers would not run as they where unsigned. Scroll further down the wiki page to troubleshooting and workarounds for 64 bit | 12:02 |
| FalconSpy | alright ill give option 1 a go | 12:06 |
| FalconSpy | be back | 12:06 |
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| FalconSpy | alright disabled my unsigned drivers | 12:16 |
| FalconSpy | still sits at Suitable USB device not found, waiting. | 12:19 |
| FalconSpy | There we go...followed Option 5 | 12:25 |
| FalconSpy | Finishing flashing... done | 12:25 |
| FalconSpy | CMT flashed successfully | 12:25 |
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| FalconSpy | What next sixwheeledbeast^? Also thank you for all your help you've given thus far | 12:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | oh cool it flashed | 12:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I was going to say the backup option would be an Ubuntu VM or LiveCD | 12:27 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | Option 4 | 12:28 |
| FalconSpy | So it says version 21.2011.38-1 now | 12:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | welcome to PR1.3.1 | 12:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | No we fix your repos | 12:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | s/No/Now/ | 12:28 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast^ meant: Now we fix your repos | 12:28 |
| FalconSpy | So use http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/ ? | 12:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I have never used it but seems the simplest way yeh. Use recommended, navigate there with MicroB on the device | 12:30 |
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| FalconSpy | well got everything I needed but stillc ant get u-boot installed | 12:38 |
| FalconSpy | breaks the 3rd party package policy | 12:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Right before you do anything else maybe worth thinking about using backupmenu to backup your fresh device. Unless your happy reflashing if you mess up | 12:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~bm | 12:42 |
| infobot | well, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 12:42 |
| FalconSpy | fine with reflashing now that I can | 12:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Next it CSSU which is the community updates/bugfixes since pr1.3.1 | 12:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~cssu | 12:45 |
| infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 12:45 |
| FalconSpy | ok | 12:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Open that page with MicroB click on Stable | 12:46 |
| FalconSpy | ok got that installed | 12:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Did it reboot? | 12:49 |
| FalconSpy | no but I do have a ton of updates now | 12:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | run them in HAM and allow it to do it's thing, reboot etc. you may have to run again | 12:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | remember HAM is slow... | 12:52 |
| FalconSpy | ok | 12:53 |
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| FalconSpy | Keep getting unable to update X conflicting app package...continue installing | 12:57 |
| FalconSpy | looks like just all libqt stuff | 12:58 |
| FalconSpy | i dont think it loaded the updates from CSSU | 12:59 |
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| FalconSpy | oh...ddint run the enabler | 13:01 |
| FalconSpy | awkward | 13:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | FalconSpy: that maybe why yes | 13:04 |
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| FalconSpy | Awesome. Thank you for your help sixwheeledbeast^ :) | 13:16 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | FalconSpy: np are you all sorted now? | 13:17 |
| FalconSpy | Yep! | 13:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | uboot etc? | 13:17 |
| FalconSpy | Is there a central repo for all of this stuff? Over the course of you helping me I must have seen so many repo links etc | 13:17 |
| FalconSpy | Yea uboot is installed | 13:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Not really as I say when the offical repos where removed it was taken into the community to use "Private Work Directories" due to issues in redistribution | 13:18 |
| FalconSpy | gotcha | 13:19 |
| FalconSpy | Id be interested in trying to set something up...seeing as how difficult this was for a complete beginner with the n900 etc | 13:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Long term users backed everything up themselves. The sources move (hence all the broken links) | 13:20 |
| FalconSpy | gotcha | 13:21 |
| FalconSpy | As I said id be interested in setting something else up as a mirror | 13:21 |
| FalconSpy | Just need to know what to do on my end to assist | 13:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | This is how they are currently distributed personal copies, not ideal but the best option at the moment. | 13:24 |
| FalconSpy | ok | 13:24 |
| FalconSpy | well its 3am ill look into it in the morning. Thanks for your help! | 13:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I think you would have been fine if you used Linux to flash there is more support and less workarounds. | 13:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | np gn o/ | 13:25 |
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| Wikiwide | The only apk so far which worked in apkenv on N9 Harmattan is Petals Redux, and not ideally either. Granted, I tried only 4 apks altogether : StaySafe UNSW, MICOMM v3, and KPhotoAlbum. | 13:57 |
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| Wikiwide | KPhotoAlbum gives lots of errors "Unimplemented pthread_*" | 14:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<FalconSpy> I hit refresh about 10 times...)) I', *sure* that helped a lot to speed up things ;-P | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((Long term users backed everything up themselves)) see maemo.cloud-7.de and muarf. You don't need more | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe useful: | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 21:08 |
| infobot | i heard jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<sixwheeledbeast^> I think you would have been fine if you used Linux)) see: | 21:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lazyflashing | 21:09 |
| infobot | lazyflashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach | 21:09 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | Good to know it's possible on Win10 for future reference tho. | 21:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | That firmware page is just a mess, but the issue is legacy bookmarks etc | 21:13 |
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| FalconSpy | sixwheeledbeast^ the Option 5 as I said did the trick for me | 23:12 |
| FalconSpy | Or maybe it was combination of Option 1 and 5 since I did both | 23:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Most likely both. Allowing unsigned drivers and 64-bit workaround with libusb-win32. | 23:14 |
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