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| Enrico_Menotti | Hello. I decided to try to run Hildon on Devuan on my laptop. Probably that's quite mad, but I'm just trying to understand the dipendencies. I installed hildon-theme-cacher_0.4.3-1-recomp1_i386.deb, libglib2.0-0_2.20.3-1maemo5+0m5_i386.deb, and tried with libgtk2.0-0_2.14.7-1maemo33+0m5_i386.deb (all found at http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/). When I do dpkg -i libgtk..., I get this error: | 19:26 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | hildon-theme-cacher: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: hildon_g_scanner_cache_open | 19:26 |
| Enrico_Menotti | I had a look around and found this symbol to be specific for certain Maemo versions. But I haven't been able to manage to get the right versions in order to avoid this error. Anybody knows anything about this? | 19:27 |
| KotCzarny | looks like you have to use fmg's gtk too | 19:33 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | search suggests you may need maemo glibc? | 19:40 |
| Enrico_Menotti | glibc? I didn't find hints in this direction. Let me check. | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://github.com/community-ssu/glibc | 19:41 |
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| KotCzarny | maybe you meant glib, not glibc ? | 19:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | glib yep sorry | 19:43 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Ah ok. | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | Enrico_Menotti: you'd better use "my" hildon etc port | 19:44 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Hi freemangordon ! Thanks for joining the discussion! :) | 19:44 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I was just trying to understand what happens with the stock Maemo packages. | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | "what happens" in what regard? | 19:45 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | I mean, I don't know exactly how the Hildon stack works, yet. So I was trying to do something with the stock packages before going to your port. | 19:46 |
| bencoh | they probably just wont be supported and source packages will need to be rebuilt (and ported in some cases) | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | you won;t be able to use stock packages on devuan | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: :nod: | 19:47 |
| Enrico_Menotti | I expected some problems, indeed. But the error I reported seemed to me a conflict between two Maemo packages, not with standard Devuan packages. | 19:47 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Anyway, I will gladly give up with stock Maemo. | 19:47 |
| Enrico_Menotti | freemangordon But I'd need some help in starting with your port. | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | what kind of help? | 19:49 |
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| freemangordon | basically you have to clone the source code and build it | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | some stuff like themes is not there, but can be found on the inet | 19:50 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Yes, ok. Let me go back to your thread and your repository, I will ask more precise questions, ok? | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | ok | 19:51 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | So, my starting point would be http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96800&highlight=hildon&page=18. | 19:54 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | I didn't read all the replies to that thread, but first I'd like to understand whether this is applicable to gtk2, or gtk3 only, and where to start from. | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | Enrico_Menotti: https://github.com/fremantle-gtk2 | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | first build and install gtk2 from there | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | then clone hildon-desktop and try to build it. initially it will fail, but you'll have the list of all the needed dependencies | 19:56 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Ok. Just one more question. If I got it right, the stack goes like X11 -> gtk+ -> Hildon. Please correct me if I am wrong, and let me know further layers, if any. | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | yes, there is clutter | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | for hildon-desktop | 19:57 |
| Enrico_Menotti | So clutter is a package in-between gtk+ and Hildon-desktop? | 19:59 |
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| freemangordon | no, clutter is a package between hildon-desktop and opengl drivers | 19:59 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Mhmmm I'd need a drawing :) . For now let me try building gtk2, then let's see what happens. | 20:01 |
| sicelo | there should be one on the wiki somewhere | 20:02 |
| Enrico_Menotti | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Top_Level_Architecture ? | 20:03 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Ufff... I played a bit too much with Maemo packages. Seems my Devuan system on the laptop is a bit broken. I fear it's time to reinstall it, it'd be cleaner and faster, I think. So I will do this task, then try to build gtk+ and hildon-desktop. See you later... :/ | 20:20 |
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| Vajb | is there support for chromecast for maemo? | 22:09 |
| sicelo | very doubtful :) | 22:11 |
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| Vajb | hehe, had to ask anyway. Coz gf bought it. Would be nice show off for maemo to have it :) | 22:16 |
| Sicelo009N | the tech is way newer than the N900 | 22:19 |
| Vajb | i know. Only thing older is my car... | 22:20 |
| KotCzarny | i'm older than n900! | 22:20 |
| Vajb | oh yeah me too | 22:21 |
| KotCzarny | i think even oscp is older than n900, though it had different name then | 22:21 |
| Vajb | oh, i thought u made it for n900 | 22:23 |
| KotCzarny | nah, it's as old as 2003 | 22:23 |
| KotCzarny | for n900 i just packaged it nicely | 22:23 |
| Sicelo009N | not forgetting that chromecast depends on google features we definitly have no support of in maemo | 22:23 |
| KotCzarny | and added maemo specific parts | 22:23 |
| Vajb | oh. It needs oscp xp update :) | 22:24 |
| KotCzarny | it already runs on windoze ;) | 22:24 |
| KotCzarny | both core and remotes | 22:24 |
| Vajb | chromecast is somekind of wlan hotspot or something? | 22:25 |
| KotCzarny | more like vnc | 22:26 |
| KotCzarny | i think | 22:26 |
| Vajb | so in theory one could access to it via wpa suplicant? | 22:27 |
| Sicelo009N | chromecast? not really - from what i know it has a proprietary protocol | 22:29 |
| Vajb | hmm i think i need to read about it. So far all i've heard r praises of how magnificant it is. | 22:30 |
| Sicelo009N | if you could get chrome on N900 ... perhaps then | 22:35 |
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| Vajb | i saw there was some progress with sailfish, but probably that wont help | 22:46 |
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| sicelo | progress with chromecast? | 22:49 |
| Vajb | maybe progress is too optimistic word, it showed up in wlan :) | 22:50 |
| Sicelo009N | i'm sure picking it up will be easy | 22:51 |
| Sicelo009N | the hard part will be to actually do something - 'talk' to it - that's where you need the protocol | 22:52 |
| Vajb | somehow i have a feeling that n900 isn't going to stream audio over wlan by default | 22:53 |
| Vajb | maybe only thing we need is oscp chromecast plugin ;) | 22:53 |
| Sicelo009N | wrong on your feeling :p | 22:53 |
| Sicelo009N | remember we ARE dlna/upnp compliant (client) | 22:55 |
| Vajb | oh, then we just need to stream in a way that shows through chromecast | 22:55 |
| Vajb | hmm it was mentioned as upnp client (chromecast) | 22:55 |
| Vajb | or is it more like host... | 22:56 |
| Sicelo009N | it should be more a client | 22:57 |
| Sicelo009N | the 'source' would be the device | 22:58 |
| Sicelo009N | so if you want to try, set up N900 as upnp/dlna server ... i doubt you'll achieve much, but hey! i might be proved wrong :-) | 22:58 |
| Vajb | who knows, i'd like to do it just as proof of concept :) | 22:59 |
| Vajb | but im afraid im way over my head there | 22:59 |
| Vajb | and as playing from my device is as hard as plugging 3.5mm audio cable to it, so... | 23:01 |
| Sicelo009N | by the way i've never used (or seen in real life) a chromecast device ... but reading about them i couldn't help but noticed the very tight integration they have with google services. on pcs you almost can only use them with chrome browser, nothing else | 23:01 |
| Vajb | maybe there is some omen in the name | 23:03 |
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| Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I have again a clean Devuan system on my laptop. Now I can start again playing with gtk+ (this time from freemangordon's repository.) :) | 23:52 |
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