IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2017-05-15

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OksanaOkay, ongoing puzzle: Orecchiette records audio in either Wav or AAC. Neither of them supports metadata, as far as I know. How do I convert AAC files to something else (with metadata readable by tracker?) without losing quality? I see tracker-extractor- for flac (lossless), vorbis (lossy) and mod (league of its own). Would it make sense to convert08:24
OksanaAAC to Vorbis [would it be possible without losing data]? Or would it be sufficient to encapsulate AAC inside Ogg [or MP4 or something] container?08:24
MaxdamantusYou can't convert to another lossy codec without losing data.08:32
MaxdamantusPractically.08:32
KotCzarnycant you just glue id3v1 tag onto aac files?08:33
KotCzarnysome players allow that08:33
MaxdamantusYou probably wouldn't encapsulate AAC in Ogg, dunno if that's possible.08:33
MaxdamantusBut inside MP4 is pretty standard. That's what "m4a" is.08:34
freemangordonMaxdamantus: what about converting to flac and the to whatever format?08:34
KotCzarnyor just hack tracker-extractor to support aac metadata08:34
Maxdamantusfreemangordon: well, flac is lossless so no indformation lost there, but you lose information when going to a lessy codec.08:35
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freemangordonah, you mean on the second conversion08:35
freemangordonyeah08:35
freemangordonstill having my first coffee for the day :)08:35
MaxdamantusYou should be able to put AAC into an m4a with ffmpeg doing something like: ffmpeg -i foo.aac -acodec copy foo.m4a08:37
OksanaCreating tracker-extractor-aac would be nice, except AAC standard doesn't include metadata, right?08:37
Maxdamantusffmpeg tries to copuy metadata in certain cases, dunno how metadata works with AAC though.08:37
Maxdamantusoh, no metadata yet, so you can specify it with additional arguments.08:38
OksanaHmm, nice.08:38
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KotCzarnyhttp://i.imgur.com/BA3NC.jpg11:13
KotCzarnywho else thinks it's awesome?11:13
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MaxdamantusThose earphones look very breakable.11:29
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KotCzarnyim talking more about winamp in a pocket type of thingie11:31
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buZzKotCzarny: lol nice11:39
buZzshould be easy-peasy with a 3D printer, some paint and one of those adafruit mp3player boards11:40
KotCzarnyif our n900 would have such screen, i could use oscp's winamp ui. but sadly there is too much border11:40
buZzalthough the 'eject' button is a bit pointless i guess11:40
buZzi dont see why this should be a screen , 90% doesnt update ever11:40
KotCzarnyfor historic reasons :P11:40
buZzalso touchscreen are blegh for stuff like this11:41
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KotCzarnytrue. with resistive ts you could tapse some translucent tape though to mark buttons11:42
buZzgross :D11:42
buZzactual buttons ftw11:42
KotCzarny:)11:42
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sixwheeledbeastBut gone are the days of standalone media players15:23
KotCzarnynot entirely true15:23
sixwheeledbeastI had a massive Creative one back in the day 60GB IIRC I loved it.15:23
KotCzarnyi had nokia 5510, with massive 64MB of storage15:24
KotCzarnycould've squeezed almost 2 hours of music on that baby15:25
sixwheeledbeastIt got replaced by my N900 and soon after the FW was bricked on an update.15:25
sixwheeledbeasthttps://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Felectronics%2Fdetail-page%2Fzenxtra.jpg&f=115:28
KotCzarnylooks like early walkman/ipod15:29
sixwheeledbeastUltra fast 2.0 USB...15:29
sixwheeledbeastCirca 2003 IIRC15:30
KotCzarnylarge high resolution lcd ;)15:30
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Wizzup14:23 < sixwheeledbeast> I had a massive Creative one back in the day 60GB IIRC I loved it.15:36
Wizzupcreative nomad jukebox?15:36
Wizzupah, no, smaller one15:36
sixwheeledbeastGreat piece of kit in it's time, easy to use and set playlists at parties. Quick swap battery pack and 60GB was a lot before solid state.15:36
sixwheeledbeastYep15:36
sixwheeledbeastJukebox Xtra15:37
Wizzuphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_NOMAD#/media/File:Nomad.jpg I had this one15:38
Wizzuphave* actually15:38
KotCzarnyit had spinning drive? o.o15:39
sixwheeledbeastI didn't know they where also sold as a "Dell DJ" It would still be working if it wasn't for the garbage SW bricking the FW update15:39
sixwheeledbeastYep spinning drive in a anti shock tray I recall15:41
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WizzupKotCzarny: yes15:49
WikiwideKotCzarny: If I remember correctly, Samsung already makes clip-on hardware keyboard for Galaxy. Aka, on top of capacitive screen? Make it translucent, and it will be not-gross "tape to mark the buttons"15:52
KotCzarnytranslucent kb is a bit tricky to make15:53
WikiwideYes, like transparent fish: there remains non-transparent skeleton.15:53
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