| xes | DocScrutinizer05: concerning the tools i think no one ever tested those new versions. After some check i think extras would be the right place - if someone knows such tools and is interested into comparing the behavior with the old ones | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: ack | 00:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: unrelated: my ssh fails to connect to a remote sshd. Last local debug line: "debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.2" - known? | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513204 | 00:07 |
| xes | the next line should contain the version of remote ssh. Are you using the right port? | 00:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it seems like remote sshd doesn't respond to the version inquiry | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but might as well be something arcane around ssh1 vs ssh2 protocol or whatever. My local ssh config file is pretty ancient | 00:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bfc how to tackle that | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc even | 00:14 |
| xes | have you checked also with a telnet? sshd should reply with openssh version | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513228 | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is the remote sshd in paranoid mode or whatever? | 00:17 |
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| xes | oh.. is that a vbox natted vm with port forward for ssh? | 00:24 |
| xes | if yes please check again the vbox nat forward rule. sshd must reply with his version in any case (if you are knocking at the right door) | 00:27 |
| xes | freemangordon: have you ever tried to increase the video encoder buffers into libgstdsp to limit the random frame drop with HD resolutions? | 00:31 |
| parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: you *are* geting the wrong version of openssh | 00:32 |
| parazyd | that's not the version in the vagrant box | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err what? | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's my local ssh version | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this nevertheless is supposed to connect to a different version sshd | 00:33 |
| parazyd | ah | 00:33 |
| parazyd | i thought that was the sshd version | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: my vagrantbox seems to be the culprit, it's "too old" Vagrant 1.7.4 | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it works with the devuan jessie vagrantbox before RC1 | 00:34 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, also ssh protocol incompatibilities are checked after ssh version hello message | 00:36 |
| Enrico_Menotti | DocScrutinizer05 As you suggested a couple of days ago, I made notes about my work on Devuan for the N900. Before making them public, I'd like some feedback, so I'm proposing anybody who's interested to read them. Would you like to? | 00:37 |
| xes | Enrico_Menotti: please paste it on an etherpad page. Many guys here will be ready to read it and review some part if needed | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: parazyd: http://wstaw.org/m/2017/05/04/plasma-desktopj22054.png http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513347 | 00:39 |
| Enrico_Menotti | xes It's a pdf file - is there some place where I may upload it? | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Enrico_Menotti: what xes said | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please paste the plain ascii text to an etherpad | 00:41 |
| Enrico_Menotti | DocScrutinizer05 xes I'm a bit unexperienced with these things. Could you please suggest a specific page? | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or worst case to a pastebin | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how about https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/ or worst case http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 00:43 |
| xes | Enrico_Menotti: https://etherpad.net/ and create a new pad | 00:43 |
| Enrico_Menotti | I'm just looking the one suggested by xes. | 00:44 |
| xes | ...then open another browser and play with yourself while pointing at the same pad ;) | 00:45 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 found etherpad.net to be relatively fail-happy | 00:46 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might have changed since | 00:46 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: have you tried to ssh to eth0's ip -p 2200? | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~/Downloads/devuanVGtest> telnet 192.168.4.21 2200 | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Trying 192.168.4.21... | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | telnet: connect to address 192.168.4.21: Connection refused | 00:50 |
| parazyd | DocScrutinizer05: dunno, i'm using virtualbox5 | 00:51 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 needs to update vagrant, which is a PITA since they don't provide a rpm for opensuse | 00:51 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | obviously whatever vagrant1.7.4 expects to find in the vagrantbox image isn't provided by vagrant1.9.1 anymore, so my old vagrant fscks up the sshd setup | 00:53 |
| xes | i think to recal that to use the virtualbox nat port redirection you can't point at localhost since the nat is defined starting from primary host network interface | 00:55 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 HMMMMs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513413 | 00:56 | |
| xes | then, maybe an old vagrant version expects a different virtualbox nat behavior (that has been changed 2 years ago..more or less) | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, now that sounds like sth | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though, the connection seems to get established, so NAT can't be the culprit? | 00:57 |
| xes | change the virtual IF definiton and use a bridged network interface | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it works with an old vagrantbox! | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it's not in the vagrantbox image and not in http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513413 and not in vagrant executable, then I don't know | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, maybe I changed the network interface in VB config of old vagrantbox? | 01:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513620 | 01:13 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: maybe you are recalling a trick/tweak that you made to address it? | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, wish I could recall what I did | 01:16 |
| xes | https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/3232 | 01:19 |
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| xes | changed syntax .... port fwd definition conflict between guests... | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, my vagrant is 1.7.1 | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and works with a 1 year old devuan vagrantbox (though I *might* have tweaked something in virtualbox config) | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then, I can't see how any tweak I did in virtualbox only applies to the old vagrantbox and fails on the new one | 01:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: do you see any mistakes I made, or tweaks I applied, in http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513620 ? | 01:29 |
| xes | where is the network definition into the Vagrantfile you are using? | 01:32 |
| xes | if it is not there, it should be hand-made into vbox | 01:33 |
| Enrico_Menotti | To anybody who's interested: https://oasis.sandstorm.io/shared/rRUHLjKxQz-owubUREr0FXnJh9ZCTpyLEpjmTTNflW4 (you may comment directly the file). (Devuan on N900.) | 01:35 |
| Enrico_Menotti | DocScrutinizer05 xes sicelo parazyd (and anybody else) ^^^ | 01:36 |
| xes | Enrico_Menotti: thanks for sharing | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: I can't find any vbox config specific to that ~/vagrant-test/kicad-devuan-amd64 dir | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I assume there's none | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless it's in vagrantbox file | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/24513413/ | 01:42 |
| Enrico_Menotti | xes You're welcome. :) | 01:43 |
| Enrico_Menotti | Bedtime. G'night. | 01:46 |
| xes | goodnight | 01:47 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: net definition is at the beginning of .box file | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't touch the .box file | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, so I need to open it in vbox, then edit it there, then store | 01:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which might well be what I've done, back when | 01:52 |
| xes | no port fwd definition there... | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the port is fine, no? | 01:53 |
| xes | no | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, the shit thing *connects* | 01:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see it listening on the port, in netstat | 01:54 |
| xes | the old vm is still there? | 01:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:2200 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 18460/VBoxHeadless | 01:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the new one | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I meanwhile stopped the old one | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and the new one also fails on port 2222 when I start it with no concurrent box running | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's evidently the sshd that blows chunks | 01:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or some firewall or whatever | 01:57 |
| xes | no idea. i have downloaded a piece of ~15MB of .box and at the beginning there is the box.ovf definition | 01:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I suspect vagrant 1.7.1 patches some stuff in the .box file, and the format changed since | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I tend to blame sshd config | 02:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably vagrant injects some stuff into the box during boot via console. And one of that is a config file for sshd | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and vagrant1.7.1 does use a sshd.conf that's incompatible to new version of sshd as in devuan-rc | 02:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there were quite a few CVE-patches against sshd recently, no? | 02:47 |
| xes | yes there are a few... but from my point of view the problem is at nat level | 02:52 |
| xes | it's time to close the eyes. Have a good night Doc | 02:53 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 is lost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24514051 | 03:07 | |
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| bencoh | and it looks like this device could be a really neat second choice / porting target :) | 10:50 |
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