IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2017-02-14

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brolin_empeyIs a vampire’s ship a blood vessel?07:45
KotCzarnynot if they are hungry07:53
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brolin_empeyhttp://www.quakejs.com/play?set%20fs_game%20cpma&set%20mode_start%20FFA&set%20g_teamAutoJoin%201&map%20cpm1a08:58
brolin_empeyAwesome, it works for me this time:  I can run ioquake3, a source port of Quake III: (Team) Arena, in Firefox using WebGL. :-D08:58
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DocScrutinizer05screen or tmux?09:18
DocScrutinizer05hmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux#Features09:21
jogatmux is great with the window splits09:24
jogaI routinely have maybe 5-10 "virtual desktops" within it that are divided into some layout usually, then it's easy to go back to a certain project etc.09:26
jogasince I used to use screen for a long time before switching, I just had to rebind the c-b to c-a etc. :)09:27
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DocScrutinizer05OMG! mosh has dependency to libprotobuf8 - Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format09:40
bencohsowhat?09:44
KotCzarnymosh is israeli invention too, while you are being paranoid09:45
bencohsowhat(bis)? ....09:53
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DocScrutinizer05bencoh: I simply get anaphylactic shock when I read "Google's data interchange format"10:08
DocScrutinizer05silly, I know10:09
DocScrutinizer05for all I could tell, XML for example could be the devil's own native format, doesn't mean it's bad per se. Just Google... it starts with "G" too ;-)10:10
DocScrutinizer05like gnome10:10
bencoh. . .10:12
KotCzarnyand... germany? ;)10:13
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jogaxml obviously is favoured by the devil10:27
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DocScrutinizer05who cares?10:40
DocScrutinizer05ASCII is favored by Bill Gates and Microsoft10:41
DocScrutinizer05strawberries are favored by Tim Lynn10:42
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vectis3screen or tmux? There is also dvtm.11:47
jogahaven't tried that but seems like something I could use11:53
jogathough would apparently need to use tmux with that11:54
jogaor uh... not, nm11:54
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FIQgystemd11:56
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DocScrutinizer05FIQ: :-D12:26
DocScrutinizer05and gimp also needs a better name12:27
MaxdamantusThere was recently a possible exploit pointed out with screen.12:36
MaxdamantusSince its multi-user mode or whatever depends on having the setuid or setgid bit set.12:37
Maxdamantuscould get it to create log files in arbitrary places using those privileges.12:39
Maxdamantustmux seems nicer imo12:41
Maxdamantusit's more portable and the UI seems simpler.12:42
* Maxdamantus tends to dislike GNU things.12:42
bencohMaxdamantus: is that a recent one?12:43
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bencohI've always thought this +s thing with screen is silly12:43
Maxdamantushttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2017-01/msg00025.html12:44
MaxdamantusYeah, I think it only affects some recent versions, and it's obviously been fixed in master since that discussion.12:45
Maxdamantusand yeah, you can probably just unset the setuid/setgid bit if it's set, unless you actually rely on the multi-user feature.12:46
Maxdamantusdebian just has sgid by default iirc.12:46
bencohiirc it hasn't always been +s by default12:51
bencohI kinda remember enabling it once but I'm not sure12:51
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: grep has an initial G too.18:55
brolin_empeySo does GNU, as you already noticed with your mention of (the) GIMP.18:56
brolin_empeyIncidentally: I still wonder why the tiles on the Start menu on Windows 10 always show me news in the UK when my location in Windows is set to Canada.  Maybe because I use English (UK) instead of English (US)?18:59
brolin_empeyAlso the geolocation for my public/external IP address always correctly says that my IP address is in Canada, so Windows should be confident that I am always in Canada.  I have never visited the UK IRL.19:01
brolin_empeypublic/external/routable address, whatever.19:02
brolin_empeyOr WAN address.19:02
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I guess you can use Pidgin because it is no longer named gaim? ;-)19:07
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bencohhuhu19:28
bencohbrings me back yeaars ago :)19:28
Vajboh didn't know that..19:31
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