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| LjL | hey... so... if i've gotten my N900's battery just slightly flat by not using it forever and not removing it... is there any new trick on how to resuscitate it without using external hardware? | 05:24 |
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| Vajb | sixwheeledbeast: yes u guessed right | 07:31 |
| Vajb | Juesto: i deny writing from all users and also set them read only. No effect. Tried setting registry value for it, no effect either. | 07:33 |
| Vajb | guess i'll just leave it be and delete useless bookmarks next time i visit :) | 07:35 |
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| Vajb | Sicelo: if u like u can try to combile newer libwebp for telegram purple :) | 09:07 |
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| bencoh | Vajb: it might already be implemented in recent telegram-purple versions | 09:32 |
| Vajb | bencoh: oh,there is new version for maemo? | 09:55 |
| Vajb | or will any telegram-purple work with it? | 09:56 |
| bencoh | nope, latest maemo version is still 1.5yo | 10:10 |
| bencoh | I tried building latest one but it eventually segfaulted, I'd need to spend more time on this, but... | 10:11 |
| Vajb | yeah only 24h/d... | 10:20 |
| bencoh | :) | 10:20 |
| bencoh | and way too much time debugging stuff already | 10:21 |
| Vajb | i try next week if those stickers work when converted to .png and shown as smileys | 10:21 |
| bencoh | stickers? | 10:21 |
| Vajb | yeah | 10:22 |
| Vajb | in android version there r stickers | 10:22 |
| Vajb | and we see them as broken images | 10:22 |
| Vajb | they r .webp files... | 10:22 |
| Vajb | and in my theory they all have unique name and so on.... | 10:23 |
| bencoh | all this just to display smileys? | 10:24 |
| Vajb | yep, strange world | 10:25 |
| Vajb | maybe it is just me, but it is annoying when something works for someone, but not for me | 10:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | LjL: have you tried charging with Nokia charger? | 10:26 |
| Vajb | and i get a lot of "change that piece of.. to something new and shiny" | 10:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~flatbattrecover | 10:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~ping | 10:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~infobotcanyouhearme | 10:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :( | 10:27 |
| Vajb | it seems that we don't have infobot atm... | 10:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't use Chrome or Win10 so not much help there, would a different browser be better? | 10:29 |
| Vajb | i don't know, but i guess it is better to stick with it. If i change chrome to something else they say thay internet is missing.... | 10:39 |
| Vajb | that* | 10:40 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Set a default browser? It all depends on the user in these circumstances. Most browsers for windows will suffer from adware if your un | 10:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sure what your clicking | 10:57 |
| Vajb | problem is that they keep clicking that star and bookmar bar is filled with useless crap and when they don't see their three bookmarks there they r lost and ask me to fix it because it is broken | 10:59 |
| Vajb | i have ads blocked there | 11:00 |
| Vajb | also i downgraded them to just users so they can't install anything | 11:00 |
| Vajb | so now it is motly just setting themes straight and deleting bookmarks | 11:01 |
| Vajb | mostly* | 11:01 |
| Vajb | i thought that preventing bookmark changes would be easy, but it turns out to be impossible for me | 11:02 |
| Vajb | ah gtg | 11:02 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | in firefox I would just remove all the icons from the browser it's flexible like that. | 11:24 |
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| Michael_a380 | I got a friend who is going to Vietnam. Any ideas on the best way to find and buy an N9 (flea market?)? | 12:30 |
| Michael_a380 | Any issue with cellular (bands) between Vietnam - Australia ? | 12:32 |
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| L29Ah | One more step | 15:03 |
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| LjL | <sixwheeledbeast> LjL: have you tried charging with Nokia charger? ← thanks, yes, i've tried | 17:39 |
| LjL | anyway i impulse-bought a cheap new battery from ebay before going to bed | 17:39 |
| LjL | the seller *looks* reliable | 17:39 |
| LjL | i saw no complains of non-original batteries in the feedback | 17:39 |
| buZz | nice | 17:43 |
| buZz | what price? | 17:43 |
| bencoh | first (and last) time I ordered "original" batteries I ended up with batteries not charging over 800mAh for some strange reason | 17:45 |
| bencoh | and eventually bought a polarcell | 17:45 |
| * kerio bought a polarcell | 17:45 | |
| kerio | best battery 20XX | 17:45 |
| bencoh | well, polarcell capacity does drop over time | 17:45 |
| bencoh | but it doesn't seem worse than original one, and starts with a slightly higher capacity | 17:46 |
| bencoh | so it's not that bad | 17:46 |
| buZz | what about those 2x thicker batteries? | 17:47 |
| buZz | with special backsides | 17:47 |
| bencoh | mugen? | 17:48 |
| bencoh | not sure you can still buy it, and ... ENOSPACE anyway :> | 17:49 |
| bencoh | n900 is big enough as it is :p | 17:49 |
| buZz | :) | 17:49 |
| buZz | lol, polarcell seller gives 50 euro back if you can find a better battery | 17:51 |
| buZz | :P | 17:51 |
| buZz | http://www.ebay.nl/itm/PolarCell-Batterie-Nokia-X-6-00-5230-5800-N900-C3-00-BL-5J-5228-XpressMusic-XM-/331336938120 | 17:51 |
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| kerio | buZz: you're much better off taping two batteries together | 17:55 |
| kerio | with those oversized backplates | 17:55 |
| kerio | the capacity of mugen batteries was not twice the nokia bl5j | 17:56 |
| kerio | and yes i realize that chemical batteries don't work like that but | 17:56 |
| L29Ah | https://dump.bitcheese.net/files/avijeju/n900-cutie.jpeg | 17:57 |
| kerio | that's... going a bit too far | 17:59 |
| L29Ah | only 100g heavier | 18:00 |
| joga | wow that's savage | 18:00 |
| bencoh | uhu | 18:07 |
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| buZz | L29Ah: 18650 best battery \o/ | 18:25 |
| buZz | batterylife of n900 is quite impressive to me | 18:25 |
| buZz | without a simcard inside, no autoconnect to wifi, easy 4 days on battery, with actual usage | 18:26 |
| kerio | ...usage of what | 18:30 |
| kerio | playing solitaire? | 18:30 |
| buZz | mp3s, camera, wpa cracking, quake2 | 18:31 |
| buZz | but like, 2-3 hours a day i guess | 18:31 |
| kerio | oh i thought you said no wifi | 18:31 |
| Vajb | mugen is around 2000mah when new, but drops quickly to 1900ish | 18:31 |
| buZz | kerio: wrong :P | 18:31 |
| kerio | buZz: how do you crack wpa | 18:31 |
| buZz | hammer | 18:31 |
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| buZz | i mean, https://wiki.maemo.org/Cleven | 18:31 |
| kerio | reaver doesn't count | 18:32 |
| buZz | aircrack-ng | 18:32 |
| buZz | reaver is for WPS, not WPA | 18:32 |
| kerio | still, how | 18:32 |
| kerio | bruteforce? | 18:32 |
| buZz | yes | 18:33 |
| buZz | +deauth | 18:33 |
| bencoh | wep works fine | 18:33 |
| bencoh | I dont think I ever tried wpa | 18:33 |
| bencoh | well, maybe I did, I dont remember | 18:33 |
| buZz | its doable :) | 18:33 |
| bencoh | but yeah, cleven can be useful :) | 18:34 |
| buZz | if the password is in your wordlists anyway | 18:34 |
| buZz | its not so smart in bruteforcing | 18:34 |
| buZz | it doesnt use rulesets :( | 18:34 |
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| bencoh | it does work against numeric-only passwords | 18:34 |
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| bencoh | (yes, there are quite a lot of those around) | 18:35 |
| buZz | uhuh | 18:36 |
| kerio | bencoh: wep has /several/ weaknesses | 18:37 |
| bencoh | yeah | 18:37 |
| kerio | wpa is a bit more solid | 18:37 |
| bencoh | "a bit" | 18:37 |
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| kerio | poor encryption standards in wpa1, but still kind of unbreakable unless you're a TLA | 18:37 |
| kerio | if the password is good, ofc | 18:37 |
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| LjL | buZz, price of battery was €7.60 (including shipping) | 19:16 |
| buZz | LjL: and original? | 19:16 |
| buZz | can i get a link? :) | 19:16 |
| LjL | bencoh, i know, even batteries on amazon prime are confusingly non-original despite claims, according to a few reviews | 19:16 |
| LjL | so in this case i thought ebay seemed actually better since at least i get to know which seller i'm buying from | 19:17 |
| LjL | on amazon, it's listed as the same item, but multiple sellers, and who knows which reviews refer to which seller | 19:17 |
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| LjL | buZz, hopefully it's going to be original, but i'll know when i know | 19:17 |
| buZz | :) | 19:17 |
| LjL | buZz, http://www.ebay.it/itm/152405152721 is link, but the shipping is only going to be that cheap within italy | 19:18 |
| LjL | actually they don't even ship to non-italy at least according to ebay details | 19:18 |
| LjL | which isn't even surprising considering lithium batteries are banned by airmail now :( | 19:18 |
| buZz | wow, nice price | 19:20 |
| LjL | buZz, all i know is he repeatedly claims it's original, doesn't have the usual odious "we aren't responsible for shipping" italian sellers tend to have, and the feedback is probably too good for someone selling fakes as original | 19:21 |
| buZz | i'll just send him a question about it ;) | 19:21 |
| LjL | certainty doesn't exist in this world, but eh | 19:21 |
| buZz | :) | 19:21 |
| LjL | the thing that worries me a little is that he says he ships it "in a blister", which could be anything from relatively sturdy plastic to almost nothing... and as mail, not as package | 19:22 |
| LjL | so if it's "almost nothing" and not properly padded... brrrrr | 19:22 |
| LjL | one sure thing is i'll inspect it for at least 10 minutes to spot any bumps or strange things, before trying to charge it | 19:23 |
| LjL | (lithium batteries scare me, does it show?) | 19:23 |
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| buZz | i tried so hard to make a li+ explode | 19:34 |
| buZz | thusfar havent succeeded | 19:34 |
| bencoh | regular li-ion usually behave, kinda | 19:36 |
| bencoh | lipo can get wild | 19:37 |
| buZz | i tried most on lipos | 19:37 |
| buZz | specifically overcharging and shorting | 19:37 |
| buZz | i also tried shorting it with a nail through it, but nothing happened | 19:39 |
| buZz | ah well, some day i'll succeed :D | 19:39 |
| bencoh | -_- | 19:39 |
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| LjL | buZz, why would you do that :( | 19:52 |
| LjL | have you not read enough horror stories of people's lungs being damaged for life and bones being corroded by hydrofluoric acid from venting lithiums? | 19:52 |
| buZz | LjL: death is the only certainty we have in life | 19:53 |
| buZz | why avoid that? | 19:53 |
| * LjL hands buZz a shotgun | 19:53 | |
| buZz | nah too easy | 19:53 |
| * buZz rather makes his own deathtraps :) | 19:53 | |
| buZz | electric longboard, fixie bicycle, etc | 19:53 |
| LjL | besides, venting lithiums don't usually kill you, as mentioned | 19:54 |
| LjL | just make you suffer for the rest of your (potentially long) life | 19:54 |
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| buZz | not sure why you assume i didnt do this in well ventilated area, but sure, keep going :P | 19:54 |
| LjL | because it doesn't really matter | 19:55 |
| LjL | it's toxic enough it can cause damage even on the top of mount everest | 19:55 |
| buZz | cool , so it doesnt matter one bit | 19:55 |
| buZz | if only paranoia was contagious ;) | 19:57 |
| LjL | buZz, http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?107-Smoke-and-Fire-Hot-Cells-and-Close-Calls-The-dangerous-side-of-batteries | 20:04 |
| LjL | pinned thread is lovely (if you love death/disabling events) | 20:04 |
| buZz | cool anecdote bro | 20:05 |
| buZz | come back when you make it happen ;) | 20:05 |
| bencoh | I'd say "why?!" as well, but nevermind :) | 20:07 |
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| LjL | i won't make it happen because i'm not f-ing insane | 20:14 |
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| buZz | ^_^ | 20:26 |
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| freemangordon | ~seen romaxa | 20:56 |
| freemangordon | ~ping | 20:57 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: she is dead ^^^ | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | in which sense? | 21:23 |
| Vajb | as not in this channel | 21:31 |
| Vajb | infobot... | 21:32 |
| Sicelo | ah | 21:49 |
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