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| Michael_a380 | My n900 is connected to a powerbank, where once the phone is charged , the green light will go off after a few minutes (powerbank cuts the power; ignores the phone?). Is there a way to simulate a "USB disconnect → USB connect" ? Maybe triggered by 'time interval' or 'battery level'. | 02:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: which software version do you run? And is your powerbank (or cable) shorting D+/- lines of USB? My N900 never stops eating some 100+mA when connected to a power supply of any kind | 12:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it was PR pre-1.2 iirc that did the interval charging on battery full | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | PR1.3 keeps battery afloat at 4.16V and eats quite some current for active USB and CPU clock locked to 500MHz iirc | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know USB powerbanks that really talk data to a connected device. It's always only about power consumption on VBUS +5V | 12:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Michael_a380: are you pilot? | 12:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though, which pilot flies only one airplane type? | 12:44 |
| Vajb | my powerbank has autoshutdown and it doesn't start charging before i unplug and replug usb from powerbank | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, mine has the same. That's why I say it's only about load current | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shutdown happens when there's no more load detected by powerbank, however I don't know how it detects a mating cycle | 13:06 |
| KotCzarny | measuring amperage? | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I *guess* the powerbank simply applies a voltage bias via a high resistante pullup resistor to Vbatt 3V7 and detects faling edge of that voltage and enables the booster to provide 5V until the current draw is < threshold | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gonna check immediately on my powerbank now | 13:09 |
| Vajb | and i suspect that that feature cannot be overcome without good knowledge of electronics. Sime timer controlled relay comes to mind, but im not specialist. | 13:10 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 realizes that he still doesn't have any USB breakout lab test equipment | 13:10 | |
| Vajb | some timer* | 13:10 |
| KotCzarny | vajb: relays are actually very simple to use | 13:10 |
| KotCzarny | you can even get preprogrammed ones | 13:11 |
| KotCzarny | 5-10usd on aliexpress | 13:11 |
| jon_y | power banking cartels :) | 13:11 |
| Vajb | i know relays used in cars :) | 13:11 |
| KotCzarny | computer ones are almost the same | 13:11 |
| Vajb | well at least those wich have four pins | 13:11 |
| KotCzarny | but problem is that with full battery in n900 it would just shutdown again | 13:12 |
| KotCzarny | i guess | 13:13 |
| Vajb | hmm ok so some relay wich starts counting down from 2hours and "replugs" usb after that... | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | vajb, there are even usb/bt controlled ones | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | i guess bt would be the best for n900 | 13:13 |
| Vajb | and 24hours later we scrape off the table what is left of powerbank and n900 :) | 13:13 |
| KotCzarny | keeping n900's battery >90% all the time isnt healthy though | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | so it should trigger when there is <10% charge left in the phone | 13:15 |
| KotCzarny | sweetspot would be some kind of xi charging and some script to keep n900's battery ~40% | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first observation: the powerbank does NOT detect the plug-in of a USB plug - evidence: plugging in a USB extender cable doesn't activate the bank | 13:16 |
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| KotCzarny | doc, check connecting dumb light bulb/led | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2nd observation: plugging a consumer to the extension cable triggers the bank, so it's an electrical thing via the 4 USB wires | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 3rd: the plugged in consumer been a USB A/V probe feed-through which evidently doesn't do any own action on D+/- USB data lines, so this reduces the relevant lines to VBUS-5V and GND | 13:18 |
| Vajb | might be difference between banks. My bank activates when i plug usb to device, but it shuts down in few seconds. When i plug usb to device first and then to bank, it stays on till bank is empty or n900 full | 13:19 |
| KotCzarny | if you have 2 wire usb cable you can check how intelligent it is | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4th: that USB probe eats some maybe 10 to 20 mA (gonna check exact value now with a second one) and the powerbank shuts down after maybe 10s | 13:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 5th: connecting true consumer (N950) to powerbank 2nd outlet doesn't start it when it gone inactive with probe still connected to 1st outlet. conclusion: probe on first outlet still pulls down the weak pullup on VBUS so a further pulldown on 2nd outlet doesn't trigger the falling edge needed to start the bank | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I think my initial analysis is absolutely correct (though yet not 100% confirmed): powerbank biases VBUS line via high impedance pullup R to 3V7 (internal Vbatt) and watches for falling edge. On falling edge it enables booster to provide 5V to VBus, then it monitors current consumption and shuts off on current < threshold. It does _not_ detect the falling edge from shutting down boost, so to start it again with a weak load attached, | 13:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need to remove the load completely (VBus charges to 3V7) and then replug (falling edge) | 13:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for N900 it remains to be seen if a "manual" control of charger chip BQ24150 via I2C can simulate complete disconnect of USB from powerbank via charging_disable | 13:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a way more simple, and obvious cure however would be to never let the consumed current drop below the deactivation threshold of the power bank - simply keep backlight on | 13:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the actual threshold depends on your particular powerbank though | 13:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as I mentioned before, my N900 with PR1.3 never stops drawing a ~150mA even with backlight off, "thanks to" the USB core never stops trying to connect to a possibly attached USB host | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this changed from PR1.1 to 1.2 or 1.2 to 1.3, old firmware does pulse charging, once per 3 minutes for 30s or somesuch | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now connecting my N900 PR1.3 to my powerbank via a nasty contraption that simulates D+/- short | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | works like a charm for now | 13:38 |
| jon_y | .cn contraptions | 13:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the N900 consumes a 90 to 150mA all the time from powerbank which provides 5.01V | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with backlight off | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with backlight on it's ~250mA | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IÜW with backlight on my powerbank could operate this way a 100h | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW* | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and backligh OFF* | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, still steady stae | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | state. So it behaves exactly like I hoped it would. However note that my powerbank (like prolly most of them) does NOT short D+/- so if I would do same test without my nasty contraption, it wouldn't work since N900 doesn't even start decent charging | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I so far worked around this using my chargescript whn charging from powerbank | 13:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | powerbank still happily powers N900, at a steady ~120mA consumption. The battery is completely charged, the device shows "charge finished" | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/N900-charging-from-powerbank1.JPG.jpg http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/N900-charging-from-powerbank2.JPG.jpg - the white powersupply connected is just to short D+/- | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the powerbank is labeled "10400mAh" so this setup should work for up to maybe 80h | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course the contraption with that white charger and Y-cable could get replaced by either using a dedicated charger cable that has D+/- shorted, or simply by shorting the D+ and D- pins inside powerbank, by soldering a bridge to the USB connector middle two pads | 16:11 |
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| mva | hi there! I noticed that there is no package updates even in CSSU repos (except december's 0xFFFF upgrade). Is it some another OS (maybe with more recent kernel) recommended for N900 now? Or maemo is just in suspend mode? | 17:30 |
| KotCzarny | bit of both | 17:30 |
| kerio | well not really | 17:33 |
| kerio | just the latter | 17:33 |
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| Vajb | KotCzarny: T410, i5-520M, 4gb ram, no ssd, but it is on auction. Im thinking to offer max 150 as i looked that ssd +4gb ram will be around 100 more. | 17:42 |
| bencoh | mva: what do you mean by "no package update" btw? | 17:46 |
| bencoh | cssu-testing gets a bit of updates from time to time | 17:47 |
| bencoh | -stable is, well ... -stable | 17:47 |
| bencoh | it does get its share of bugfixes once in a while (~year) | 17:47 |
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| Vajb | hmm if code is optimized to the last empty line, why would updetes be needed :p | 17:49 |
| Vajb | guess im dreaming again... | 17:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/flying-cat1.JPG.jpg 2 3 | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 250cm | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or 300 | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: nope, you're to the point | 18:04 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, they do that, you must be new to the internet not seeing those frigging flying daemons | 18:05 |
| mva | bencoh: first of all, I didn't see any update (except 0xffff) in fapman since nov'15 end even there, there was almost no package updates :( Secondly, I looked timestamps of directories in repository.maemo.org pools ;) | 18:06 |
| mva | btw, is it any active projects about porting (or at least backporting, lol) modern (4.x) kernels to N900? :) | 18:07 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 18:07 |
| bencoh | https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo8_.2810.06.2016.29 | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first of all, don't use fapman ;-) | 18:08 |
| bencoh | right :) | 18:08 |
| * mva was a bit shocked when some time ago, when tried to run static compiled (for modern arm systems) busybox on n900, and it said "too old kernel" or something like that O_o | 18:08 | |
| bencoh | mva: regarding modern kernels: http://elinux.org/N900 and https://github.com/pali/linux-n900 | 18:09 |
| bencoh | mva: yeah, libc broke it ... | 18:09 |
| bencoh | gnulibc* | 18:09 |
| Vajb | can't fapman be taken out from repo? | 18:09 |
| mva | DocScrutinizer05: and what should I use instead? // except aptitude/apt-get and nokia's package manager | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nokia's packet manager | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly speedyHAM | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyham | 18:10 |
| infobot | SpeedyHAM is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb. SpeedyHAM is included in CSSU now | 18:10 |
| mva | ok, I'll try | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman | 18:10 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 18:10 |
| mva | although, just wondered: why fapman is bad? :) | 18:10 |
| bencoh | for the aformentioned reasons | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~hamvsfam | 18:11 |
| infobot | [hamvsfam] https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 18:11 |
| mva | ok | 18:11 |
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| mva | oh, I just remembered: isn't it some kind of TMO backup somewhere? :D There was some topic, about how to repair broken USB on N900 (although, I failed to find it even now, when I tried last time) // i've second motherboard with broken USB, but have no time to repair ATM, and thought about saving that article and return to that problem when I'll have enough time. But I afraid TMO can be dead on that time :'( | 18:14 |
| KotCzarny | ũsbfix | 18:15 |
| KotCzarny | Å~usbfix | 18:15 |
| KotCzarny | ~usbfix | 18:15 |
| infobot | methinks usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt | 18:15 |
| KotCzarny | (stupid windoze) | 18:15 |
| Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: wich way that cat had been traveling to? | 18:15 |
| Vajb | well in any case i guess it jumped on those pipes first | 18:17 |
| KotCzarny | mva: search function on tmo sucks, use google | 18:17 |
| KotCzarny | vajb: search videos/gifs of leaping cats | 18:17 |
| KotCzarny | 2-3m vertical jump on flat wall isnt unseen | 18:17 |
| Vajb | KotCzarny: i can just look around while home | 18:17 |
| Vajb | our other cat jumps about 120cm from floor | 18:18 |
| Vajb | i mean laying on floor pawns under her | 18:18 |
| Vajb | but two to three meters has to be whole different breed of cat | 18:19 |
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| mva | uhm... I already listed to 6th page and I'm not sure it is that topic I remember. There was image with soldering wires to "points" under battery, and this topic only has a way to solder wires to resistors under metal cover. Although, maybe this is more "right" way than that... | 18:22 |
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| Vajb | mva: i think u r talking about soldering usb to service pads | 18:24 |
| Vajb | or how ever they were called at. It is used when normal usb traces r gone | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you shouldn't use testpoints to fix USB, unless really all other options are void | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think the testpoint fix is mentioned somewhere later on in above linked tmo thread | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I'm pretty sure since I recall I commented on it, regarding the problems with it (e.g. lack of ESD and EMI protection) | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ummph nope, I stand corrected | 18:35 |
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| mva | ~sb | 18:35 |
| infobot | [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 18:35 |
| mva | still old scratchbox :( | 18:36 |
| mva | is it still Debian Etch should be used as target distro? | 18:37 |
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| Monsieur | Hi there | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed tmo search is *totally* FUBAR. http://wstaw.org/m/2017/01/05/plasma-desktopj17764.png | 18:46 |
| KotCzarny | doc: might be helpful to see httpd logs | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | could be that there was some indexing service disabled | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mva: (sb) get the VM e.g. from http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 18:47 |
| mva | DocScrutinizer05: I'd prefer chroot :) Although, I already added it to TODO (fetch VM, run it, transfer all the files to chroot, continue work in chroot) :) | 18:49 |
| mva | thanks anyway ;) | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afk | 18:52 |
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| KotCzarny | mva: you can create chroot | 18:54 |
| KotCzarny | assuming you have working qemu or native arm arch | 18:54 |
| mva | both of it :) | 18:55 |
| KotCzarny | it's as easy as getting few skeleton packages, unpacking them and doing apt-get update/install | 18:55 |
| mva | I've bunch of Pine64+, for example | 18:55 |
| KotCzarny | it will work, but apps depending on maemo services could fail | 18:56 |
| mva | although, I thought about making buildserver (so, I guess, it'll be better to use qemu+binfmt chroot) | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | im using bananas/oranges to compile for my n900 | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | ~tabletsdev | 18:57 |
| infobot | methinks tabletsdev is http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ http://wiki.maemo.org/Tabletsdev , http://tabletsdev.maemo.org (all defunct, thanks Nokia) or the nice site http://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/tools/, or http://www.mmnt.net/db/0/0/93.81.63.203/repositories/skeiron.org/skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads, or http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/ | 18:57 |
| KotCzarny | you can grab vm image from the last link | 18:57 |
| KotCzarny | and use distcc to distribute to pine64s | 18:57 |
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| mva | uhm | 19:08 |
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| mva | how can I check (to be fully sure) that installed HAM is speedyham, and not old slow nokia's proprietary one? | 19:08 |
| KotCzarny | dpkg -l | 19:09 |
| KotCzarny | should probably have cssu in the version | 19:09 |
| KotCzarny | or not. | 19:10 |
| mva | // I just hope speedyham is a bit different and allows to install multiple packages at the same time (first, check packages you're want to install, and then install all of them, if they not conflicts), like fapman can. But I can't notice any difference between HAM I see now and HAM that was in 2009 :) | 19:10 |
| KotCzarny | but if the version is 2.2.73-2 then its from cssu | 19:11 |
| mva | ii hildon-application-manager 1:2.2.73-2 | 19:11 |
| mva | :-/ | 19:11 |
| KotCzarny | its ok, its speedyham | 19:12 |
| Vajb | heh backlog reminded me of my try to compile glibc for my desktop linux. It failed because of too old gcc 4.7 and needed was 2.5.3 or something along those lines | 19:15 |
| Vajb | didn't make much sense to me so i just let it be | 19:15 |
| bencoh | too old gcc 4.7 | 19:17 |
| bencoh | *meh* ... | 19:17 |
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| Vajb | yes and configure (or something) said that 2.5.3 or newer is needed | 19:19 |
| Vajb | so i didn't really understand how 4.7 is too old since it is like two times newer | 19:19 |
| Vajb | all i wanted was to compile newer glibc for telegram ;) | 19:21 |
| mva | Vajb: it's just people who write comparsion expressions... erm... (**how to not call them idiots?..**) do not know what exactly they writing :) | 19:21 |
| mva | because I can't imagine a way how to write a code that can assume 4<2 as true :) | 19:22 |
| Vajb | i think it was my first try of combiling. Found clear looking tutorial and then that. Think I'll change distro soon anyways. | 19:23 |
| Vajb | or is it compiling | 19:24 |
| bencoh | Vajb: newer glibc for telegram? gnii? | 19:24 |
| Vajb | gnii? | 19:24 |
| bencoh | s/gnii/mmmh?/ | 19:24 |
| infobot | bencoh meant: Vajb: newer glibc for telegram? mmmh?? | 19:24 |
| Vajb | it says it need 2.15 and i have 2.13 | 19:24 |
| mva | ?!? | 19:24 |
| bencoh | are you talking about glibc, aka gnu libc, or glib, aka gnome toolkit glib? | 19:25 |
| Vajb | did u read that i was doing it for desktop | 19:25 |
| bencoh | (s/gnome/gimp/ btw) | 19:25 |
| mva | Vajb: but... how old is your distro? | 19:25 |
| Vajb | i assume gnu libc | 19:26 |
| mva | 2.13-2.15 is something about 2009's | 19:26 |
| Vajb | it is late crunchbang linux | 19:26 |
| Vajb | latest | 19:26 |
| bencoh | I dont really see why would telegram need a newer glibc | 19:26 |
| bencoh | especially since it compiles for maemo | 19:26 |
| Vajb | but distro got discontinued | 19:26 |
| mva | bencoh: I bet, he tried telegram-desktop, which is Qt5, which, in turn, can ask for newer glibc | 19:27 |
| bencoh | huhu | 19:27 |
| mva | Vajb: take a look on Gentoo :P | 19:28 |
| Vajb | yeah i downloaded it from telegram site | 19:31 |
| Vajb | mva: im having very old computer so i need light os. Probably telegram-dekstop would have been overkill anyways | 19:31 |
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| mva | Vajb: doesn't usual, say, debian not light enough? | 20:23 |
| mva | s/not// | 20:23 |
| infobot | mva meant: Vajb: doesn't usual, say, debian light enough? | 20:23 |
| mva | // although, even gentoo can be "light" (especially win libcs like musl or what's most yummy there for now), although, it has PM written on python (so, it want 512+MB RAM (or swap)). That's Why I firstly asked about debian | 20:25 |
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| Monsieur | ~combined | 20:33 |
| infobot | well, combined is the rootfs fiasco image of maemo. For N900 latest (PR1.3.1) see http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin, or http://galif.eu/nokia/, or http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/ | 20:33 |
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| Monsieur | ~flasher | 20:35 |
| infobot | somebody said flasher was at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz. HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/ | 20:35 |
| KotCzarny | you might want ~flashing | 20:36 |
| Monsieur | Hm, i'm just looking for the flashing process about emmc | 20:36 |
| Monsieur | i'm a new n900 owner | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | then use flashing | 20:37 |
| Monsieur | ;) thx | 20:37 |
| Monsieur | ~flashing | 20:37 |
| infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline, or see ~lazyflashing | 20:37 |
| KotCzarny | ũse that script | 20:37 |
| KotCzarny | or lazyflashing oneliner | 20:37 |
| Monsieur | i use to use the ./flasher -f $fw -F, which was pretty easy to execute | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | see flash-it-all.sh | 20:38 |
| KotCzarny | it really is everything you need | 20:39 |
| KotCzarny | it also downloads proper images automatically | 20:39 |
| Monsieur | hm, ok, i'll have a look | 20:39 |
| Monsieur | ho, nice :) | 20:39 |
| Monsieur | my main problem is about the repositories mess | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 20:41 |
| infobot | well, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | but, as a new user you want: | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 20:41 |
| infobot | hmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | but thats after clean flash | 20:42 |
| Monsieur | ofc :) | 20:42 |
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| Monsieur | clean flash : done | 20:57 |
| Monsieur | i don't understand why the device lock code is still the same after flashing | 21:03 |
| Monsieur | but, it's not a big deal :) | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | its written on different part of nand? | 21:03 |
| Monsieur | i guess so | 21:03 |
| Monsieur | and just for my knowledge, is there a way to wipe it ? | 21:05 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~lockcode | 21:15 |
| infobot | well, lockcode is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 | 21:15 |
| Monsieur | nice, thx | 21:17 |
| Monsieur | Too much keywords :) | 21:17 |
| KotCzarny | start writing them down ;) | 21:18 |
| Monsieur | ~help | 21:19 |
| Monsieur | thx infobot ;) | 21:19 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~botsnack | 21:32 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast: thanks | 21:32 |
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| Vajb | mva: yeah my distro is debian based and im thinking of changin. Well for a long time already, but have been lazy | 21:59 |
| Monsieur | KotCzarny: thanks for your advices. I guess i'm now up-to-date with cSSU | 22:29 |
| KotCzarny | do you plan to use n900 as an audio player too? | 22:30 |
| Monsieur | not at all, i'm using a FiiO X3 | 22:30 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:31 |
| KotCzarny | with proper software, n900 can be quite useful in that regard | 22:31 |
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| Monsieur | I'll look how to sync (cal|card)dav from owncloud to the n900 :) but for now, it's beer time ! | 22:36 |
| warfare | Is there any modern messenger for the n900? (threema, wire, etc.?) | 22:38 |
| Vajb | warfare: telegram and jabber r what i use | 22:41 |
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